US Owners Manual & Training Information & Technical Details !!! A MUST READ!

Fwapsk · 02-13-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by atr_hugo

Dam - I've spent too much time editing in the past few months. First major spelling booboo - page 4, VAVOS instead of VANOS.

There's an earlier one on page 3:

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For those of us that where (should be were) lucky enough to
ever drive the legendary BMW 2002(comma?) the

New 1 Series inspires feelings of nostalgia."

There are others too. I was surprised that an official BMW document held so many typo's.

But it is a cool document!:thumbup:

dna550 · 02-13-2008, 02:43 PM

As I read through the document the first time, my thought was that I was reading a document written in German and then translated to English. If so, then if translation was done by a native German speaker, this might explain the typos.

BTW, the typos are not an issue for me. I understood what was being said.

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Originally Posted by Fwapsk

There's an earlier one on page 3:

"

For those of us that where (should be were) lucky enough to
ever drive the legendary BMW 2002(comma?) the

New 1 Series inspires feelings of nostalgia."

There are others too. I was surprised that an official BMW document held so many typo's.

But it is a cool document!:thumbup:

sethchan · 02-13-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by larryn

More Gold!!

Indisputable proof of new functionality to the DSC!!!

Not in the 3 series cars at all right now...

Mine was made in week six. So I guess it gets the old version. That's annoying.

BMWeber · 02-13-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by j8smith

Looking at the diagrams for the E90 and E87(www.realoem.com/bmw) it looks like the different reservoir indicates Active steering, not electric steering. The standard hydraulic has a star shaped cap on the reservoir, While the active steering has a flat round cap.

Also, servotronic only refers to variable assist, not to weather the steering is electric/hydraulic/mechanical

if you read that link it I put there it basically says BMW has 3 types of steering, servotronic witch is a electric servo driven hydraulic power steering witch is the standard engine driven hydraulic and active steering. the servo hydraulic is the one with the bad reviews. at least that is what I got out of a little research but i could be wrong wouldn't be the first time :iono:

BMWMPWR · 02-13-2008, 03:22 PM

Kudos Rook:thumbup:

j8smith · 02-13-2008, 04:13 PM

BMWeber,

I read your link. I was under the impression that the system getting bad reviews was actually EPS(electric power steering), as used on the R56 Mini, Some Z4's and some euro 1 series cars. This system is fully electric, no hydraulics, just an electric motor atached to the rack or steering column. If you look at some of the pictures of the 125i cab, there is no PS reservoir at all.

arefog · 02-13-2008, 04:23 PM

Sethchan, since the new DSC function appears to be nothing more than a software application perhaps at some point it will be available via a download from your friendly BMW dealer. Here's hoping...............

Dick Fogg

sethchan · 02-13-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by arefog

Sethchan, since the new DSC function appears to be nothing more than a software application perhaps at some point it will be available via a download from your friendly BMW dealer. Here's hoping...............

Dick Fogg

It's not that I drive like I'd really need that, it's more a matter of principle.

larryn · 02-13-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by arefog

Sethchan, since the new DSC function appears to be nothing more than a software application perhaps at some point it will be available via a download from your friendly BMW dealer. Here's hoping...............

Dick Fogg

Hard to say they are delivering it from March 08 production on, when BMW Has has been delivering the E82 with the eLSD in Germany and UK already. I read that as to be in lines with the date of the document that says March 2008 right at the top of it...

Templedogg · 02-13-2008, 04:50 PM

I think in the end it is just a better explanation of what the E-Diff is and that all 135i will have it, since none are coming before March to the states and it is new to BMW in any model they are telling the techs as of March 2008.

Klinn · 02-13-2008, 05:17 PM

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Here's a bit of interesting news. Not sure I like it too much:

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The 135i is equipped with a trim weight on the rear bumper. This component contributes to an overall improvement in axle-load distribution.

Hmmm, so much for leaving out a spare tire and jack to save weight! How about putting those back in and removing the "trim weight".

Dave · 02-13-2008, 05:58 PM

very good read....
thanks for posting it up

BMWeber · 02-13-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by j8smith

BMWeber,

I read your link. I was under the impression that the system getting bad reviews was actually EPS(electric power steering), as used on the R56 Mini, Some Z4's and some euro 1 series cars. This system is fully electric, no hydraulics, just an electric motor atached to the rack or steering column. If you look at some of the pictures of the 125i cab, there is no PS reservoir at all.

ah ha I have not seen a pic like that with nothing. I thought the (EPS) was the electric hydraulic but that picture is very convincing. thank you makes me feel a little better

AwesomeBMW · 02-13-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Klinn

Hmmm, so much for leaving out a spare tire and jack to save weight! How about putting those back in and removing the "trim weight".

Hey, we have a genius aboard

PDZ01 · 02-13-2008, 07:26 PM

Thanks. This is so cool!

roadburn · 02-13-2008, 08:34 PM

Can't wait to see how all this engineering really feels!

The only technologies I don't plan to engage enthusiastically are the deformation zones....

imported_Bimmer · 02-14-2008, 12:59 AM

AWESOME!!!!

Freno a mano · 02-14-2008, 02:18 AM

do you know where I can find the same Training info and Tech. detail for the E87?

Thanks

Sherifftruman · 02-14-2008, 08:03 AM

Am I crazy or does the comparison table show the 1 as being heavier than the 3? Hopefully, it is more of the weird bunch of bad proofreading on this issue.

MrRoboto · 02-14-2008, 08:12 AM

^^^It does. What the hell is the weight of this car? There have been so many different numbers.

BMWeber · 02-14-2008, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherifftruman

Am I crazy or does the comparison table show the 1 as being heavier than the 3? Hopefully, it is more of the weird bunch of bad proofreading on this issue.

your crazy :smile: I'm pretty sure you were looking at unladen height 1423 vs 1395

MrRoboto · 02-14-2008, 08:35 AM

(E82)1423>(E92)1395

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