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10-13-2009, 03:09 PM | #67 |
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Stock 135i= 3373lbs
BBS FI wheels: -40lbs (-10lbs x 4) Non RFTs: -32lbs (-8lbs x 4) M3 suspension bits: -10lbs CF Roof: -20lbs CF Hood: -10lbs CF Trunk: -5lbs Lightweight exhaust: -30lbs Lightweight battery: -30lbs Lightweight bucket seats: -50lbs Overall: -227lbs, 3146lbs. Not bad if they do it...
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We have been told this project was initiated by Dr. Kay the new head of ///M.
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Looks to me like this would be the actual, BMW produced tii model. Remember that as per BMW's own comments, there is supposed to be a tii in the current 1-series that would feature a 4-cylinder turbo engine, measures to reduce weight, and special suspension, brakes, etc.
This looks like it to me. Watch what this is, because the next 1-series and next 3-series are supposed to get tii models that have farther reaching changes than this current generation "modded" 1-series tii. |
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Whatever they're trying to do, it looks like they perhaps discovered the limitations to the 1 when it comes to different wheel and tire sizes and had to adjust accordingly.
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10-13-2009, 03:56 PM | #75 |
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Ideas for Gearboxes?
If they follow a CSL type formula then i guess we'll be seeing DCT. I kind of miss the cool nudge of SMG when it banged into the next gear, but i might be a bit weird hahah |
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No way you're losing that much weight out of this car. 50lbs off the existing glass? Not a chance. The CF roof usually requires re-enforcement, so it's almost a wash, and the entire sunroof doesn't weight 50lbs. |
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10-13-2009, 04:20 PM | #77 | |
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There is a lot being experimented with and tested- but the cost is what will be the deciding factor. Not many going to spend $50k on a 1er, so it is yet to be seen what will be green lighted.
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they'll probably do some kinda lightweight seats, but the US never gets sweet stuff like that. damn you NTSB!
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I can only see slight differences: Huge flared fenders, exhaust tips (probably PP exhaust), wheels and tires. If it were to be an ///M I think we would see a slightly more modified cosmetic appearance, no?
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The body work is the last thing to be seen. There's not really any reason to have the car out in the public with it until they're just about ready for production. |
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There's no evidence they save any weight at all with the roof. The M3 gains weight over the 335i. 3650lbs vs 3527lbs according to the website. There's just not that much weight to be taken out of the 135i, at least without stripping it down, and that's not going to happen because it will narrow the market too much. It's unlikely they'll go with smaller wheels, so the weight savings there will be minor. They can't reduce the number of airbags, and the stereo just doesn't weight that much to begin with. Glass is one of the heaviest items on a car, but you can't very well get rid of it. GM thinned the glass for the Z06 and gained a whopping 7lbs. 50 isn't even remotely realistic. Same goes for the exhaust. You MIGHT save 10-15lbs going to TI, but the converters are still going to be there, as is the muffler. As I said earlier, I'll be SHOCKED if they manage to drop 150lbs from this car. |
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What strikes me as odd is that it looks like the wheels are a square set up, with lower offsets. It would be pretty bizarre to do an awd, unless they really up the power and I don't hear anyone saying 400 hp. Who knows. If they build it I will take a serious look at trading up. What would be really annoying is if we were to find that this was just someone doing some odd mods.
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They really need to get this thing under 3000 lbs to be successful. It would be a testament to their technology and mechanical skills. The only way to achieve this would be having a turbo 4-badger engine. Then to be successful, BMW needs to keep this around $40,000 or less since it is a 4-badger.
The M3 weights more than the 335i because it has a V8 versus a V6 in the 335i. The M3 is a phenomenal car. |
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My source for the roof savings would be be the engineers at BMW ///M and materials do you want their names? It is between 11 and 20lbs less for a CF to a steel one (I have been given 2 numbers- early to late and not sure) and about 45 for one with a sunroof.
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