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06-09-2011, 03:38 PM | #67 |
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The arrogance of M3 owners coming into a 1 series forum, pointing out deficiencies in 1 series M and expect its fans to acquiesce. Do 1 series owner walk to M3 forum and call M3 a boat, overweight, over ate, and float like a caddy boat and "THEN" complain M3 owners don't take it well? Seriously. Get over yourself.
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06-09-2011, 03:47 PM | #68 | |
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I think you have twisted this into something that it really isn't (which is easy to do on a public forum)... We all have a passion and respect for our cars. We are ALL in the ///M family right??? If you read the OP comments in this thread, you would have seen that. But instead, you fire off and are judgemental and clump ALL M3 owners as arrogant? Sounds like you have a lot of growing up to do. Good luck with that |
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06-09-2011, 03:51 PM | #69 | |
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It's ok...I think they know what's coming their way so they have to find a way to sabotage the success of the car. I can't wait for my 1M to get here
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Just out of curiosity, do you still have hair left on your scalp, or have you started losing it?!? I ask because apparently all you can type to everyone is how much growing up they have to do...there's always Rogaine man! I think the grandpa of the forums has started the regression process...
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06-09-2011, 04:01 PM | #71 |
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Wow...seriously guys? I mean wow.....he had a 335i BEFORE he had the M3 so his opinion is still valid. He is obviously a BMW fan...and the OP stated clearly his reason for not desiring a 1M...what is wrong with that? Seriously people act like adults instead of fanboys.
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06-09-2011, 04:02 PM | #72 | |
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My guess is that you and him are related? Two kids stuck in a baby carriage fighting over which one gets the pacifier first? Only little kids come onto a forum and defend something that isn't even in their possession yet nor have experience with... |
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06-09-2011, 05:47 PM | #74 |
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I always get a kick out of the endless debate over how the N54 gets over heated and the car runs out of breath. I would say that the early 335i's without the oil coolers tended to do this. I have had my 2007 335i out at Sebring and did not have any out of the ordinary temps. I also had my 2009 135i at Sebring & Road Atlanta and never experienced any of those things. In regards to the shorter wheel base. It will take a bit more skill to drive a car like the 1M. If you have ever driven an E30 M3 you would understand what I am talking about. This all being said both the E9X M3 and 1M are both fantastic cars.
BTW, I am assuming you are going to the Chin Motorsports event this weekend at Sebring. I will be attending their events when I get my 1M back from European delivery and I'll be looking forward to passing you. |
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06-09-2011, 05:51 PM | #76 | |
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Your opinion is based on magazine articles and the OP is based on experience. With lots of track experience to boot.. Each one of us will have different experiences with many different cars and we come on here to share those. Not to start a pissing contest like, my 1M is better than your M3 or the other way around... Also, you should consider taking your own advice. "read the things you type" Your quotes: "It's ok...I think they know what's coming their way so they have to find a way to sabotage the success of the car. " "No problem...due to ignorance your opinion doesn't count anyways" "Clearly the car is not for you, and I'm sure no one will be offended by your write up, given that there are so many individuals in line/list wishing that they could get their hands on a 1M. You not going for one is going to make someone else VERY happy! So I say: M3 drivers, please stick to your M3's!" So, anyways, now that we went over that lesson, lets get back on track shall we? The 1M and the M3 are BOTH incredible machines and each model offers something truly special to the passionate BMW enthusiast. |
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06-09-2011, 06:08 PM | #77 | |
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Better yet, I look forward to seeing your 1M out there since we will be in the same run group. I liked your 95 M3, did you sell it?
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06-09-2011, 06:16 PM | #79 |
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I had my 07 335i out there in the summer time a few years back with no problems. My 135i I just had out there at the Chin Event in May at Sebring with my brother driving and I was out there in my E36 M3 Racecar at the same time. It was 90 degrees plus with no over heating problems. It was in the Advanced Solo group.
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06-09-2011, 06:19 PM | #80 | |
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I look forward to seeing your new ride out there, and I look forward to the pass
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Ok, so let me get this straight. When the ambient temp is 90-100deg the 1M feels less powerful after a few hot laps? Duh, my M3 felt like I had 3 full size adults riding with me in those temperatures as well compared to when it was nice and cool outside. That's why I really don't like the idea of blasting the AC, while sweating my ass off on triple digit days at the track. When the weather gets that hot, I would rather hang out by my pool. JMO
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06-09-2011, 08:31 PM | #82 |
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Don't shy away from sharing your experience. I think it was valid and honest opinion. I am annoyed people complaining that some 1 series fans take it personally.
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Honest question, and please don't flame me for this, but... would any of the following factors affect track performance on hot days (to any significant degree):
- Exterior color (white vs. black!) -- I could imagine a couple degree difference.. - Running the A/C on high -- how close in proximity is the A/C unit to other engine vitals? Maybe not huge factors, but was wondering if there was a conventional wisdom regarding either, for performance driving in hot climates. |
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Wow someone comes and gives an honest review about the 1m and his experience with heat soak and you guys treat him as if he's trying to pull some elitist crap?
Get over yourselves guys. I track my 135i with the SAME engine as the 1m. Also have Catless downpipes, intakes and other performance mods. I have an LSD, Coilovers and part ///m suspension. I also am putting an intercooler / methanol injection. I can tell you for sure. After 3-4 laps and temperatures going above 250-260 you will DEFINITELY see a noticeable decrease in power. If you don't you're either A. Running lots of Meth to keep the engine very cool and have dual oil coolers B. Not pushing your car hard enough to feel heat soak C. Not very attentive to the way the car responds and drives. At the end of the day the 1M is still an N54 powered 1 series with lots of carefully engineered suspension package (Fenders, Suspension components even LSD).
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06-10-2011, 06:40 AM | #86 | |
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http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...=540565&page=2 I, like most, are taking the OPs comments with a grain of salt. Over and over again we have heard M3 drivers trash the 1M. |
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Thanks for your opinions Bubbles. Come to think of it an M6 left Road Atlanta due to overheating and an E36 M3 overheated and believed he destroyed his engine. I do not want to get involved in the pissing match but I do have a couple questions.
Did you guys drive with MDM on or off? When I drove Road Atlanta last Monday I shut everything off for most of the day but several times when I had it on I felt a loss of power, glanced down and didn't see the light flashing and after another glance up then down it was flashing briefly. I stayed in the throttle and after what seemed like an eternity it would give back the reins. I would have mistaken it for a loss of power but it was actually the computer stepping in. I wonder if there's a threshold where the light comes on vs. power cut by the electronics. I'm not looking for excuses here, just curious. Were you driving in other cars drafts? I made sure I didn't in order to keep airflow at a maximum. Temps at Road Atlanta reached 98 ambient and 132 track temp so I'm surprised the 1M lost power at VIR. What were the temps? Both tracks are similar in the amount of wide open throttle you use but it's obviously not apples to apples. Actually, that brings up another question, what track configuration did BMW use? It must have been cool to hop from one car to another. Thanks.
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