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04-17-2010, 03:19 PM | #68 |
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Nelson piquet once said when he drove the bmw turbo F1.
If you wanted to stay on the track you could only give throttle on the straights. Now that s fun. A turbo car rwd with a limited slip diff is never as nice to control midcorner than NA high rev engine with inmediate throttle response. If you don t know the difference you better can buy a drag race car. |
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My dad's M coupe didn't come with runflats--just a can of fix a flat.
I think the ///M cars don't get RFTs.....
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So instead of repeating the same statement over and over and over again, I would recommend to wait and see and then drive the new model and then give an educated judgement. Peace. |
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My friend is a bmw dealer so i will drive one also the new M5 turbo and i will post my findings thats for sure. But i quess i already know them. I am driving and buying cars with my racing hart. I don t buy an M5 or M3 or M1 because of the badge. If it does not bring any fun midcorner i am done with it. Even if it has 1000 hp and a bmw ///M badge as big as a house.
I am no badge buyer and no status buyer. I am always in search of thru drivers cars. A 130i with a few tweaks is still bmw best car which you can buy new today. It s agile it s tossible the engine is great. Of course an M3 has far more status. But the 130i is the better drivers car when the corners arrive. |
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04-18-2010, 05:14 PM | #77 | |
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I agree with you about the 130i. But I just want to know, if you are done with M, what will you get? RS, AMG, P-Car, Mustang, Corvette? And if a P-Car, then either Cayman/S, Carrera/S or GT3/RS? |
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Well said........well said. ///M has become that great friend of yours who becomes famous and begins to forget what got them there, and begins acting like a douche and stops working hard. Cheers, e46e92
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don't get me wrong. I am also in love with BMW NA engines. I am driving a Z4 coupe with the N52. Since the Z4 is quite lightweight (lower center of gravity and wider track than 130i) it is much fun. Cornering is quite good, but I am missing a LSD here. So the same goes for the 130i you are referring to. With the serial or even the M suspension a 130i is not that agile as it could be. So basically you are comparing your extremly modded 130i with any serial M car? But let's wait and see. I will definitly come back to this forum as soon as ///M1 is at dealers to hear your findings after having driven it.... maybe I will hear some forgiving statement? |
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That's very interesting and I do appreciate some of the comments re FI.
I am just thinking out loud, but if they can actually have variable boost while the car is in a corner, it might eliminate some problems of a FI engine. All the yaw rates and turning angles are being calculated anyway, so I don't see why they can't apply a variable boost so that you have a more linear torque response during mid corner. For example, once the car is turning at 3-4k rpm - the throttle response will give no or little boost - ie you have the same throttle response of a NA. As it exits the corner, the boost gradually comes back as the car straightens with your throttle response. It won't solve all the problems - like the computer with the DCT still gets the wrong gear, but it certainly would be an improvement over a standard FI where all the boost comes in earlier. The best thing about this is it would actually be ECU development and not much need to be done with the engine. I tell you what - if this actually works, they better pay me :P
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Nah... they will be too interested in the new Civic CR-Z
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