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05-15-2012, 11:54 PM | #89 |
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Not a 1M...
I mean it's not guna be the same as the 1M, but unless you want to pay up the ass for a used one then this is your best bet.
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I guess the branding strategy works because there are still a lot of aspirational buyers, and the M label still holds a lot of value. |
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05-16-2012, 02:12 AM | #94 | |
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I don't blame BMW -- the average 3 Series buyer has no reason to buy an M car, but if they can get a car that looks similar (not identical) and has some benefits, why not? Most true enthusiasts won't eschew the real M cars just because BMW offers watered down M-Sport models and most real enthusiasts will be able to differentiate between real M cars and M-Sport models. Aside from some hurt feelings, BMW doesn't really have a lot to lose as long as they keep making real M cars to push the upper limit, but they have a lot to gain ($$$). |
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05-16-2012, 03:02 AM | #96 |
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Current model E82 is very similar (virtually identical) to the E9X, alloy at the front but steel wishbones and links in the rear. Only the 1M and M3 get alloy bits on the rear end.
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05-16-2012, 03:43 AM | #98 | |
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They are both built in Leipzig. BMW Leipzig Werk builds: all... e82, e88, e84 (X1) and F20 (four door 1er hatch). X1 is the money maker since they produce about 177K units per year there. Next year, Leipzig Werk expands and will produce the i3 and i8 as well. Leipzig Werk is BMW's most modern factory. Leipzig Werk use to build the e87 and e81 (two door hatch) as well. Regensburg Werk produces some F20 units too. Along with some 3er's (e9x) and M3 models. Regensburg use to co-produce the e87 (four door hatch) as well as Leipzig(use to). Dackel |
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05-16-2012, 08:12 AM | #101 |
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I am starting to think this is a bit pricey for what you get. Unless one was planning on installing a PPK 2 anyway because they really needed the extra cooling, it would make more sense to get a regular 135i.
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It may be that the 335is will change to the N55 (or simply go out of production early), but as far as I know this has not been announced and is not the case. As someone else mentioned there is also the Z4 35i and 35is which both still use the N54. However, I don't think we have 2013 Z4 information yet, so a change to the N55 may be in store. It would mean a drop in power for the 35is though, so I am skeptical of the N55 for that particular model. It seems it would be more likely to see it simply discontinued. The 740i/iL also still uses the N54, but that is all but certain to change with the LCI which is imminent. |
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05-16-2012, 08:19 AM | #103 |
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For those wondering about the timing for 1er coupe and vert replacement, the future BMW model timeline points to a June 2013 Internet reveal of the 1/2 series. That would make it a 2014 model and mean that the current 1er coupe and vert are around for the next year and not any further.
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Also, as I mentioned earlier, the lack of test mules casts a degree of doubt on that particular timeframe for the F22 reveal. Contrast that with the F32 date, for example, which appears to be a more reliable one given what we know about the current state of development for that car. |
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05-16-2012, 08:48 AM | #106 |
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No led angel eyes is kind of a bummer too.
Not offering the oveboost function either like other 'is' models makes me think the n55 can't handle the extra power like the n54 can. |
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05-16-2012, 08:50 AM | #107 |
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Looking into buying a 135i for the wife, this came out yesterday and was a bit underwhelmed. $5k more base price?? Should have just kept on cranking out 1Ms. |
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05-16-2012, 09:06 AM | #108 |
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05-16-2012, 09:17 AM | #109 |
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so pointless. Take the 135i...great car...but missing a few bits...build the 1m and put those bits in...which we want (GIVE US MORE 1M!!!)...then this marketing gem...hey I wonder how many ///M badges it will have plastered all over it?
Wake up BMW... the 135i is an enthusiasts car and buyers will not pay extra for ///M badges |
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