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04-07-2008, 07:53 PM | #89 | |
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04-07-2008, 09:48 PM | #92 |
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No it wasnt you. You can look through the thread and it is clear. I actually think you are trying to help, and find that cool.
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04-07-2008, 11:48 PM | #94 | |
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Congrats on the great deal. :w00t: Hope Adrian's skepticism turns out not to be applicable in this case and you do, in fact, get an order number posthaste. |
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04-08-2008, 10:06 AM | #95 | |
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If the order is confirmed and you get a production number, then yes, you'd be the only one with BSM/Lemon on order, but there's a very small handfull of cars out west that are JB/Lemon. No BSM's. |
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04-08-2008, 10:30 AM | #97 | ||
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I just read through this whole thread and two posts stood out to me. The first was this:
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I really like what Robert has done here. Smart way to do business.
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04-08-2008, 10:51 AM | #98 | |
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Ill lurk on here till i see different.. By the way.. to the OP, you dont need to talk to you c.a.. any of the c.a's or better yet the s.m can give you what you need. |
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04-08-2008, 12:09 PM | #99 | |
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And that right there is the problem. When I do business with people I tend to develop more of a relationship with them. Business made more personal. It assures that they will keep coming back to me for future needs. I am still a person and shouldn't be treated like a tool. AND this offer IS NOT resonable. Someone already stated that these cars are in high demand and turning down $800 over invoice is not a big deal because someone else will walk in willing to pay MSRP. Also, you would see in my statement that I am NOT A CAR SALESMAN. I sell commercial vehicles and was merely giving my opinion on the issue.
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04-08-2008, 12:50 PM | #102 | ||
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I'm not arguing for higher or lower margins. That's taking away from the spirit of the OP's thread. The jist of this thread is that the OP jumped in his arm chair, point and clicked, and used the Rizzo method, just like other people have done for other BMW models. Nothing really novel or new about this method or approach. The issue I have is that it's been taken like gospel that he's gotten this deal but has yet to produce evidence of commitment and an actual order from the center that's supposedly ordered this car for him. I actually feel bad because clients shouldn't be strung along like this. I have an ethical problem with a center who say's they're going to do one thing, but don't deliver, or overpromise and underdeliver. It's been since Friday and I'm not seeing an order in the system still. If you're going to low ball the market, have the cajones to back up what you say you're gonna do. Don't take a coveted, prospective buyer out of the market with an empty promise. Quote:
Submissive state for the long lost buddy. That's a good one. There's going to be some clients who love their CA so much, have a great, friendly, and fun business relationship, and want to continue doing business with them. That "submissive state" is actually the desire to do business with a certain individual and some clients will go through great lengths and expense to give that CA the business. For some clients, it's not a transactional purchase and it's more about the relationship, reputation and service and 'who' they're buying from more than just price. Everybody's different and I respect anyone's point of view who thinks otherwise. |
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04-08-2008, 01:19 PM | #104 | |
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Where I live it's a bit tougher...only about 6 or 7 dealers within ~200 miles radius of home. Most people consider getting on a flight or taking a several hour car ride just to buy a car to be a huge pain in the ass, but you've clearly demonstrated it can save you money.:thumbup: |
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04-08-2008, 01:36 PM | #105 |
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Don't forget he's doing PCD so wherever he purchases the car, pickup will be in SC. I was considering something similar to Robert's plan except focusing on mid-west/great lakes states instead of the south east. As long as the pickup is in SC, it's all the same to me.
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04-08-2008, 01:39 PM | #106 | |
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You could also buy from the OP's dealer and get the same deal (if he would share that specific info) if you were doing the Performance Center delivery. The travel expense to get the car would be a moot point. |
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04-08-2008, 02:37 PM | #108 |
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The "Payne Method" rocks !!
So here's my update. After being told by a couple dealers in my vicinity that no way in heck I could get a 135i for under MSRP, I read Robert's post a couple days ago about what I'm calling the "Payne Method." Decided to give it a shot. Nothing to lose, right?
However, because I don't want to drive my car home from south Carolina to California, I just sent my email/FAX out to 14 dealers within 100 miles of my home. About half didn't respond. a couple said "good luck getting THAT price," and countered at MSRP. A few countered below MSRP, at anything from $500 to $1900 below MSRP. One dealer accepted my offer at $2500 below MSRP. Yeah, I know, not as aggressive as Robert's $2750 below, but how can one hope to match the master on the first try? Anyway, the OTHER great news is that the car goes into production next WEEK with late May target delivery! |
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04-08-2008, 03:13 PM | #109 | |
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After thinking about it more. I am kinda mixed on my opinion of this method, but I do feel that it is detached and lacks the more personal experience that I enjoy with my CA and the rest of the staff at the dealership and when I am making a sale myself in my line of work. I've been out there a number of times since my order and it is a comfortable, friendly atmosphere where i like to be. :iono:
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04-08-2008, 03:57 PM | #110 |
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You know - this thread had all the earmarks of one that could have gone sideways in a hurry. Thanks to all of you for intelligent, adult, discussion of the issues.
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