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Yes, not as good as I had hoped. | 134 | 35.64% | |
No, lives up to my expectations. | 133 | 35.37% | |
Ask me after its been properly tested. | 109 | 28.99% | |
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12-12-2010, 11:28 AM | #89 |
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I wouldn't consider a Panamera to be a crossover no... it's a sedan.
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12-12-2010, 11:44 AM | #96 |
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Do you honestly thing that a Panamera is a Crossover or SUV?
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12-12-2010, 11:46 AM | #97 |
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SUV is based on body-on-frame. The others are unibody. The traditional "SUV" was reinvented by BMW when they designed the X5, which is the first unibody "SUV" or called a SAV or even a crossover. Confusing part is crossovers come in may different forms these days.
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12-12-2010, 11:48 AM | #98 |
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I may have been mistaken, but I wasn't being dishonest (and resent the suggestion).
Just rechecked the One Lap results and the Panamera did run in the luxury sedan class, not the SUV class with the X6M. I may have been confused since the Panamera is almost as ugly as the X6M. Neil |
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That we both agree on.
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12-12-2010, 12:10 PM | #102 |
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This is fairly minor, but I do wish they had given the 1M quad tips the same black chrome finish as the 135i. The modern ///M signature quads with a nod to the original unique finish from the 1 would have been a cool touch.
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Actually the more I've thought about the way CarTest works the more I think it does handle the loss of boost system intertia during a shift. In short if the power and torque crurves match what the engine is doing just after a shift then it indeed does.
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Benefits that appear to be more or less just like having more power come from radically shorter shifts. Indeed this is not actual power per se and in gear drag race results between a MT and DCT (if they had identical ratios AND losses) would be identical. You can also get a small benefit from more gears or optimized gears if the original MT version had some non optimal gearing. Either way to see this effective power you need to span across mutiple gears. Lastly these effects will be for the inertia dominated acceleration regime when aerodynamic effects are less significant. If a DCT get more gears then its last ratio will likely be smaller which could affect top speed and thus appear to have less power. That would only be of the car was gear/rpm limited though most are not they are drag limited. Quote:
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I'm definitely not too disappointed as we kind of new all along that it was getting a tweaked N54. As I said over on the M3 site, what more do you really want for ~$46k?
The N54 is definitely not as exciting as the S65 or even the S54 but I feel the driving dynamics of this car will by far be best of BMW's current lineup. |
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