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12-01-2013, 07:02 PM | #111 |
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By published accounts Roda was an accomplished driver who excelled in the amateur league, maybe that played a part in his mis judgement which costed his life. The CGT seems to be an unforgiving car on or off track, in 2007 2 passenger also died in an accident in Fontana race way and the car looked fairly intact and seems like a survivable crash.
Remember what Niki Lauda says about risk, which I am paraphrasing, is the risk you take worth what you get out of it?
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12-01-2013, 07:08 PM | #113 | |
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What I find disturbing about the video is the fact that the car is going too fast for conditions. How do I know that? Because the car is incapable of staying within its lane during turns. If you watch from 1 minute+, the car in the video often crosses the double yellow line because he's (presumably) going too fast to stay within his lane. And judging by the comments, he doesn't even seem to care. I'm sure Roger Rodas thought the same thing. It's a bright, sunny day and he has a wide open road to play with, so he felt OK to flagrantly exceed the speed limit (presumably, if the police reports are to be believed). Traffic fatalities just do not need to happen. Imagine if Rodas had slammed into that pole going 45 MPH. Would there be severe damage? Sure. Would the probability of surviving the crash increase relative to slamming into a pole at, say, 90 MPH or 100 MPH? Absolutely, and I think this point is lost on too many car enthusiasts. A disturbingly large proportion of car enthusiasts feel like it's OK to speed. The problem with speeding is that even if the probability of getting into a crash remains the same, the severity of the crash increases as the square of velocity. Slamming into a pole at 70 MPH is twice as bad as slamming into a pole at 50 MPH, not 70/50 times as bad (because kinetic energy increases as the square of velocity). The road in question where Walker and Rodas died had a posted speed limit of 45 MPH. If they were going 45*sqrt(2) = 63 MPH, the damage is going to be twice as bad. If they were going 90 MPH? The damage is 4 times as bad. Accidents will always happen. There's always going to be a base probability of getting into an accident. Speeding exacerbates the problem and it's a matter of elementary physics. Enthusiasts love to talk about how the autobahn (for example) has no speed limit and how German crash rates are comparable or even lower than crash rates in the U.S. None of that is relevant. The only things that matter are the following two facts: 1) getting into an accident at X MPH is worse than getting into an accident at Y MPH if X > Y. 2) the probability of getting into a crash at any speed is non-zero |
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What I am getting at is, if you crash a CGT (especially at high speed) it's very likely you will come intact with an interior panel
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12-01-2013, 07:38 PM | #115 |
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^^^ This...
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Haven't been on this forum in a while but when I heard he died I thought of his M3.
His accident is truly sad and a loss, but it hit me hard for some reason. Dont know if its because he was known as a real down to earth humble guy or because he was a car nut. Either way he went out doing what he loved and there's a quote going around saying that. I just hope they died on impact. as for people trying to help. Initially the people there didnt help, but Walkers best friend and Rodas son were trying to pull them out along with other trying to put the fire out. |
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They could only pull Dwayne Jonson if they delay the movie. He wanted to be in 7 but it conflicts with his Hercules movie filming.
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Very likely the movie will be delayed at this point so maybe he can make it in now.
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It never recovered from the lame as Too Fast Too Furious sequal. The first was by far and away the best, how could it not be when it was a remake of Point Break which is a modern day classic.
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Anyone planning on taking a trip to the crash site?
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Yep going this week.
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I'll be driving over to the area for a client meeting anyway on Thursday and I'll try to pass by.
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"Racing or not, speed was a factor in the crash, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office said. A 45 mph speed limit sign was attached to the light pole knocked down by the Porsche."
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