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View Poll Results: Are you disappointed in the 1M now that it has been released? | |||
Yes, not as good as I had hoped. | 134 | 35.64% | |
No, lives up to my expectations. | 133 | 35.37% | |
Ask me after its been properly tested. | 109 | 28.99% | |
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12-12-2010, 10:33 PM | #111 |
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12-13-2010, 06:12 AM | #113 |
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12-13-2010, 10:46 AM | #114 | |
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Audi is already moving away from their NA engines, especially with their continued TDI research. Just wait for the V12 TDI to be put in the R8 for the general public. The RS models are all going turbo as well, and the 2.0T is in freaking everything in their lineup. Merc's AMG line is moving forced induction as well, look at the new CL65 AMG, turbo engine. They're not as quick to embrace it as BMW, but they are moving that way. GM's LS IV engine is tapering off as well. Think about the cars it was found in the past 5 years: Pontiac GTO/Holden Monaro, Pontiac Grand Prix, Chevy SSR, Saab 97X, Trailblazer SS...these are all discontinued now! You basically can get it in a Corvette, SS Camaro (standard models are V6s) or a top-end CTS-V Cadillac. And in the ZR1 Vette, it's supercharged, so we're back to FI again. I could go on & on. Point is, there's a lot less big V8s than there were even a few years ago. |
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12-13-2010, 10:51 AM | #115 | |
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12-13-2010, 12:24 PM | #116 |
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Yes it is a unibody but on 2 live axles. I should me more clear that the X5 is the first crosover unibody which utlizes Independent suspension all around.
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12-13-2010, 12:33 PM | #117 |
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Seems future owners of the 1M will be on the never ending debate..real M ..not...frankenbmw ..blah blah. At 43 to 45 k U.S I believe it's a no brainer and a damn good car. Unfortunate for us Canadiens even with the dollar at par and perhaps higher than the greenback in the near future, we are still taxed up the _ _ _...and I have no doubt it will be in the 55 to 57 k range...which puts us in the 2009 gt-r ??? 2009 m3?? Which of those would you rather live with?
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12-20-2010, 11:52 PM | #118 |
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I had been very interested in getting the 1M Coupe and 1st on the list. However, the more I read (re technical, spec etc)and the price is getting a bit warm after spec'ing up the car...I have decided to not proceed with the order. I am sure it will be a great car but not for me this time.
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12-21-2010, 12:07 AM | #119 | |
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At US price point I'd snap one up regardless, but here in Aust. it'll be priced around 110-120k (yes don't faint) and we too are almost on par with the $USD, so unless it lives up to expectations for me there's no way I'd want to part with that amount of money for it... |
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12-21-2010, 03:38 AM | #120 |
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Talking about the price, you guys really can be happy, even in Canada. We have much higher prices in Europe, most probably in every country. For example, I guess the price in Switzerland will be about 80'000 $, and they don't have high luxury taxes or anything. Sure, it's also because of the current exchange rate, since the Swiss Franc was getting pretty strong in the last few months. But still, the differences are really impressive...
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12-21-2010, 04:28 AM | #121 | |
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Base price in Germany 50.500 EURO = 67k USD Base price in Switzerland 72.800 CHF (not official yet) = 57.5k EURO = 76k USD Base price in Holland is normally equal to the price in CHF, but in EURO, so 73k EURO = 96k USD In countries like Norway it is even far worse. You guys in the States are so lucky with the prices you have over there! |
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12-21-2010, 04:48 AM | #122 |
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Yes, it should... depends from which point of view you watch on it, of course.
However, the differences are incredible and really frustrating for us Europeans. |
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12-21-2010, 05:21 AM | #124 |
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Lives up to my expectations, as long as the price is in the initially expected $45k-$47k base. If not, I would have expected something more special in the interior, specially the front seats.
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12-21-2010, 09:17 AM | #125 |
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I think his point is that ANY individuals OPINION that it doesn't measure up doesn't make the car any less of an M car.. hence the comment... Quote:
Just because a lot of people got excited over someone's rendering with fender slits, CF roofs, unique hoods, or other bits, only means those people should be frustrated at believing the rendering would be the actual car. It's their disappointment that the items they THOUGHT would be on the car that is creating the disappointment. As I've said a dozen times or more... one can only really make an informed opinion anyway after driving the car. Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 12-24-2010 at 03:43 PM.. |
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12-24-2010, 03:44 PM | #128 | |
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As M3 Adjuster already stated I didn't say that my opinion was the only valid one. I said that you need to develop a reasoning behind your opinions. My arguments are fully developed and are tangible. Just saying something doesn't make it true, you have to say why you feel that way and the whole it's not an M car it's an is car is a stupid argument and nobody that has made it has given their reasons behind that opinion.
And if M division says it's an M car and that letter is put on the car than it's an M car. Plain and simple. Quote:
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12-24-2010, 04:42 PM | #129 |
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12-24-2010, 04:53 PM | #130 |
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Lol I have those too. And if you believe the old rumors the 135 was originally supposed the M 1 series so it's an omage to that idea
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12-24-2010, 11:12 PM | #131 |
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