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12-13-2010, 11:59 PM | #111 | |
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12-14-2010, 12:24 AM | #112 |
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Dr. Kay Segler is a marketing/brand manager at Mini. Having a marketing guy running M division won't be my top choice but let us give him 2-3 years and see where he takes the M brand.
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12-14-2010, 01:14 AM | #113 | |
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He is going to turn the next gen into the Ultimate Marketing Exercise as well. Watch the next gen M cars come out in 2013, only to be followed by a new sports option package in 2015 with a temporary boost increase button, then the CSL editions in 2017 with slight boost pressure increases, then the ultimate CSL editions in 2018 with another boost increase. So by my calculations, I will be ready to look into purchasing a new M product in about 8 years... See you guys on the other side! Meanwhile I'll soon be purchasing another marques's product to sit alongside my E46 M3 for the foreseeable future. |
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12-14-2010, 08:22 AM | #114 |
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Now that I have seen the E82 1M in all of its glory...I can say I am impressed--I think it looks great. I would love to have one, but the timing didn't work out, so I just got another 135.
I am setting my sights on the next 1M/M2...I really don't get the negativity in some posts in here...I really feel lucky that we have some decent insight into the planning of current (1M) and future ///M cars. I mean, more information is always better. I also like the idea of a high revving I4 in the next 1M/M2--I don't think the M division will serve up anything less than what we expect to see... I really hope I get a chance to drive one of the E82 1Ms....
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12-16-2010, 02:35 PM | #116 |
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a z4m hardtop would be awesome. I'd buy one for sure!!
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12-16-2010, 04:17 PM | #117 | |
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I agree. He's marketing by trade and the fact sarcasm doesn't transfer over text is basic online marketing 101. Just unprofessional and careless. I don't want to be too hard on the poor guy, who has given us lots of valued info.
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12-16-2010, 05:13 PM | #118 |
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What we need is a final special version of the E92 M3 to keep people like me from running off and buying a used GT3 or some other more focused alternative to current M offerings.
Offering a US model with the GTS engine would be ideal. However if they aren't interested in getting crazy sales, they could still get a good amount with a clubsport type model with the GTS suspension, brakes and exhaust with some real weight loss. I'm surely not the only one beginning to shop around after being let down by the 1M (and previously the E92 M3) and believing there are not going to be any new hardcore M products for another 3 plus years. Time is ticking if BMW wants to keep our business and needs to spill some hints soon or lose out on those who are looking to buy soon. Obviously there are a large number of us in this situation as evidenced by the the poll in the other thread regarding opinions of the 1M. Yes, not as good as I had hoped.----------120 votes-----36.25% No, lives up to my expectations.-----------116 votes-----35.05% Ask me after its been properly tested.------95 votes------28.70% Any hints regarding whether something like this is coming from SCOTT26 or others in the know? I would contend that the time for such info is now. After the long months of waiting for 1M specs, those like myself are not going to have much patience for the M division to announce something more desirable. Last edited by HBspeed; 12-17-2010 at 12:16 AM.. |
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12-16-2010, 11:42 PM | #119 | |
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Good to see you wandering here a bit. The M division earned it's vaunted status through merit not marketing. It built its reputation with cars that were light, well balanced, and had high revving, specific NA power plants. The S65 in the M3 is an absolute gem as well as the preceding powerplants in M cars. "Times they are a changing." BMW owns the M brand and is moving in the direction they believe is most beneficial for the company. BMW enthusiasts are asking whether BMW expanded the M brand for short term profits at the expense of reputation and tradition? Do the short term gains outweigh the long term consequences? How much does a watered down M diminish the brand, tarnish its mystique, and reduce the long term viability of the M brand? The 1M is a really well put together 135is because of its "is" motor. The motor is the heart of any performance car. The chassis, transmission, and steering are its soul. Porsche, a master of marketing and building brand cachet, just introduced the Porsche Cayman R. Given its specs, it is a slight to the R moniker and Porsche motorsport tradition. Stephen King could could release just about anything and it would be a best seller. Most esteemed esteemed brands can, at least in the short term. Long term, its a wrong turn.
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You cannot over promise, and under deliver, and that is what buzz is. It is only working for our new boomerang generation, who hasn't been kicked out of the house just yet...
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12-28-2010, 06:32 PM | #122 | |
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this is the end - nail in the coffin.... unless they make it high revving like the R34 Skyline GT-R or Supra. (granted the 2JZ-GTE supra is only 7200 but that was conservative for the time). mmmmm RB26DETT Last edited by burrito007; 12-28-2010 at 06:40 PM.. |
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Thanks for the laugh fellas!
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