Performance One: Dinan Turbo Replacement for N54

[darkrom]

Originally Posted by fcman

I think chun has blown a gasket...

That can happen from a shoddy tune I hear. If only he had paid a bit more, things would have been more reliable. I myself am thinking about a $10K tune. Its about 4x more expensive as dinan, thus 4x more "engineered".

[DSSG]

Most of you characters don't need more horsepower, what you need are better attitudes. Maybe you should go to church or at least talk with your clergy on a regular basis?

Regarding mods, it is a big mistake to do any while your car is in warranty. BMW can detect any tuning changes and refuse to do warranty work.

My SA has the JB4 on his car, and he hasn't had any problems with it. Every time I come in for service, he always tells me how happy he is with it.

There are men out there with big bucks that can afford this aftermarket crap. For example, I recently saw a new Dinan 750 at my dealer, and I nearly fainted when I saw the price.

Most of the people on these car forums are backyard mechanics with little or no technical knowledge who hope they can spend a few buck for some cheap horsepower. They are doomed to fail and likely ruin their ride in the process. What they should stick to are cosmetic mods like wheels or exhausts. Anyway, the 135i is plenty fast enough.

If you are a bone head and want to pursue mods, you should gain some technical knowledge before reaching for a wrench. Turbocharging is a complex subject and requires some serious study. Changing the fuel and timing maps and the level of boost can lead to all sorts of unintended consequences. Anyway, there are a couple of technical books written on the subject, and a better idea would be to enroll at a university and get a degree in mechanical engineering.

[darkrom]

Ok this is my new favorite. Aftermarket mods are bad because we are boneheads and need Jesus LMFAO.

The stock 135i is fast enough...for you. And the 128i is fast enough for some. Some of us are "real drivers" and like performance. Some of us care about more performance over some overhyped name.

PRAISE THE LORD LET DINAN GUIDE ME! THEY READ ENGINEERING BOOKS!



For the record my SA and friend has a JB4 on his X5, and as well as his brand new M3. He has UNLIMITED money for mods. I asked him why he chose the JB4 vs dinan when money is no object. His exact response "I want actual performance, not the gucci of car products".

[DSSG]

Poor fellow. The wages of sin are small!

[e36addict]

[Chunner]

Check out this M5 DINAN thread. It's titled: "Dinan M5 newbie; and Thank You!"

Wow.... 25 posts in the M5 Forum and not one owner trashed talked Dinan or the OP.

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1040377

Darkrom, you go do it.. Write a post and start trashing DINAN. Go for it!

[Chunner]

HOLY TOLEDO.....

Yet another fine article about that DINAN smack..... This time from FORBES. Yup, that same magazine intelligent people read.

Where does DINAN get the nerve to have so many editors and media outlets right so much smack?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonfog...-super-bimmer/

[Freon]

I'd love to see Jalopnik, //Drive, Motor Trend, etc. do a head to head of Dinan vs. Cobb or JB. Blinded testing would be even better. Run the car with one tune, change it to the other, run it again, taking measurements and driving impressions for each. Is this really asking for a lot? Or even better, do a long term test of each and let us know if anything breaks.

All you see are fluff pieces. Never head to head comparisons. I'm unimpressed, but I'm sure Dinan's CMO is happy you're donating to his boat fund.

[davis449]

Originally Posted by Freon

I'd love to see Jalopnik, //Drive, Motor Trend, etc. do a head to head of Dinan vs. Cobb or JB. Blinded testing would be even better. Run the car with one tune, change it to the other, run it again, taking measurements and driving impressions for each. Is this really asking for a lot? Or even better, do a long term test of each and let us know if anything breaks.

All you see are fluff pieces. Never head to head comparisons. I'm unimpressed, but I'm sure Dinan's CMO is happy you're donating to his boat fund.

Idiots who overpay for what they have almost always cite fluff pieces to backup up their argument as to why whatever overpriced crap they bought is better. They almost never have any real comparisons to back their argument that their overpriced product is worth the premium they paid for it. They also almost always get angry and overreact when contradicted or challenged, too.

[PeteA]

Yep I know what you mean man. I was on JB4 for 6 months, good bang for buck but the funny idle, odd fuel rail noises and the likes I didn't want to live with anymore. But now I'm on Dinan and it's totally amazeballs and if my engine goes KABOOM I'm covered.

[Chunner]

Originally Posted by PeteA

Yep I know what you mean man. I was on JB4 for 6 months, good bang for buck but the funny idle, odd fuel rail noises and the likes I didn't want to live with anymore. But now I'm on Dinan and it's totally amazeballs and if my engine goes KABOOM I'm covered.

Yeah, I was at a BMW UDE event last weekend. Met a fellow 3er. Told him I went with Dinan and all the bells and whistles. He says, wish he did the same. The first day he installed a JB4 on his new 335xi, the dam JB4 broke the drive shaft. I felt bad for him. Spent $60K for a new car and breaks it with a $500 ducky gadget.

[jsmonet]

Originally Posted by davis449

Idiots who overpay for what they have almost always cite fluff pieces to backup up their argument as to why whatever overpriced crap they bought is better. They almost never have any real comparisons to back their argument that their overpriced product is worth the premium they paid for it. They also almost always get angry and overreact when contradicted or challenged, too.

Make sure you masturbate balls to tip and back, each stroke, every stroke, while repeating "bang for buck"


bang for buck... bang for *gasp* buck... *shiver* oooohhh you like that doncha... who's your bang for buck *slaps* say it-BANG FOR BUCK!!!~~~~~...

*towel please*

[darkrom]

LOL the Jb4 broke the drive shaft huh?

Thats some magic right there.

[Chunner]

Originally Posted by darkrom

LOL the Jb4 broke the drive shaft huh?

Don't forget to start trash talking DINAN on the M5 forum... you will be the first post, here is the link

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1040377

Just do it!

[Chunner]

hey look, another fluffy DINAN article..... This ones from Robb Report.

http://robbreport.com/automobiles/dr...r-bmw-1m-coupe

WHY ON EARTH ARE THERE SO MANY OF THESE fAnBoY DINAN ARTICLES ?

[DSSG]

Originally Posted by PeteA

Yep I know what you mean man. I was on JB4 for 6 months, good bang for buck but the funny idle, odd fuel rail noises and the likes I didn't want to live with anymore. But now I'm on Dinan and it's totally amazeballs and if my engine goes KABOOM I'm covered.

I've got the Burger Jack Pad, and I have plans to get the Dimple drain plug!

[e36addict]

Originally Posted by darkrom

LOL the Jb4 broke the drive shaft huh?

Thats some magic right there.

[darkrom]

Originally Posted by Chunner

Don't forget to start trash talking DINAN on the M5 forum... you will be the first post, here is the link

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1040377

Just do it!

Please share how the JB4 broke the drive shaft. I can picture it now, guy plugs in the cable and BAM drive shaft snaps right in half. JB4 has viruses!!!1!1!1 get engineering!


Oh and I don't post on the M5 forum since I don't have an M5... If I did I'd be debating with people on why go dinan vs JB4, but I don't start shit to start it, I just can't stand boneheads like you rubbing dinans nuts like a genie lamp until the mystical badge pops out so everyone knows just how cool your car is.



Comments like "JB4 broke a drive shaft" just show that you have literally no idea what you are talking about. Literally all you do is link to dinan commercials. Show us some videos of all these secret races where dinan cars are overtaking JB4 tuned cars...oh wait...that has probably NEVER happened. Same with cobb, the superior cheaper tune if you want to go the flash tune route.

[darkrom]

[Acheron83]

Originally Posted by darkrom

Please share how the JB4 broke the drive shaft. I can picture it now, guy plugs in the cable and BAM drive shaft snaps right in half. JB4 has viruses!!!1!1!1 get engineering!


Oh and I don't post on the M5 forum since I don't have an M5... If I did I'd be debating with people on why go dinan vs JB4, but I don't start shit to start it, I just can't stand boneheads like you rubbing dinans nuts like a genie lamp until the mystical badge pops out so everyone knows just how cool your car is.



Comments like "JB4 broke a drive shaft" just show that you have literally no idea what you are talking about. Literally all you do is link to dinan commercials. Show us some videos of all these secret races where dinan cars are overtaking JB4 tuned cars...oh wait...that has probably NEVER happened. Same with cobb, the superior cheaper tune if you want to go the flash tune route.

The irony is these Dinan acolytes are generally the types that don't have the time or technical know-how to work with the likes of the JB/Cobb/Vishnu/etc systems (hence why they outsource the entire thing to Dinan) yet they are the first to warn non-Dinan tuned owners about certain benefits/issues they cannot in fact name or quantify. Apparently being doom mongers and link junkies (to paid for ads no less) is as far as they can go.

I have no probably with Dinan. As I mention above if you do not have the time to do things yourself, learn more about the technical specifics of getting more out of your car, are scared of warranty issues and have the money to throw around to compensate for all of this then by all means go right ahead. Just don't think that spending more money for the same or less equips you to tell non-Dinan tuned owners they picked the wrong horse. If, however, you have the technical expertise or evidence to back up this claim put it up or shut-up.

[davis449]

Originally Posted by jsmonet

Make sure you masturbate balls to tip and back, each stroke, every stroke, while repeating "bang for buck"


bang for buck... bang for *gasp* buck... *shiver* oooohhh you like that doncha... who's your bang for buck *slaps* say it-BANG FOR BUCK!!!~~~~~...

*towel please*

Yep I know what you mean man. I was on JB4 for 6 months, good bang for buck but the funny idle, odd fuel rail noises and the likes I didn't want to live with anymore. But now I'm on Dinan and it's totally amazeballs and if my engine goes KABOOM I'm covered.

You two do the same while telling yourself that Dinan warranty will save your ass. There's plenty of evidence to the contrary...

[DSSG]

Only a chump would spend so much money on Dinan nonsense.

I see pictures of your expensive cars outside miserable little hovels likely in bad neighborhoods. At least the JB4 characters have a sense of value in their spending.

Upgrade your lives not your rides!