US MSRP for US Delivery PLUS Military Pricing

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by TrojanBMW

I almost hate to ask the question, but when will the invoice and ED price be released?

If the percentages of the 3er carry over invoice will be 92% of MSRP - $29375 x .92 = $27025 for the 128 and $35675 x .92 = $32820 for the 135.

ED prices are 93% of U.S. delivery (for the 3er) so, $25135 ED invoice, $27320 ED MSRP for the 128 and $30525 ED invoice, $33180 ED MSRP for the 135.

fyi - I just did a quick check on the 5er and they use the same percentages there, so maybe the odds are good they'll do the same for the 1er.

[ibeam81]

Originally Posted by cracka

And let's not forget Porsche maintenance. $$$$.

Yup, definitely a killer.

[135idrive]

And let's not forget Porsche maintenance. $$$$.

Yea, first oil change...$1300 ouch!

[ibeam81]

Originally Posted by Drillslinger

What can I say, my rope snapped :iono:

LOL... Thanks for the laugh and taking my statement in jest!

[Evan55]

Extremely dissapointing pricing. I had hope after last months Motortrend article. Oh well.

You brand snobs need to get a clue. A bmw pinwheel on the hood isnt worth a dime. A car is a car. I want a fast, good looking rwd coupe.
Since the 1 is so overpriced, I will be taking a hard look at the new Hyundai "genesis" or whatever they will call it. 10/100 will be nice too.
The domestics have been showing a lot of promise lately too.

[joelk]

Originally Posted by 135idrive

Yea, first oil change...$1300 ouch!

wtf? please tell me you're joking.

[ice13water]

looks like im going with the civic SI

[1ster]

Originally Posted by atr_hugo

A brand new Cayman S - base with Xenons - will run close to $61K - the 135i comes in at ~ 60% of the Cayman's price. You gotta hope it'll be more than 60% of the Cayman's performance.

I have the same problem. By the time I build the Cayman S I would have to get, I start questioning the value of what I'm getting for my money.

[ibeam81]

Originally Posted by 135idrive

Yea, first oil change...$1300 ouch!

A previous boss had a 911 Turbo that he brought back from Germany. He about lost it when he got the bill for a tune-up stateside.

BTW, that's a freaking great (and very original) avatar.

[cracka]

Originally Posted by Evan55

Extremely dissapointing pricing. I had hope after last months Motortrend article. Oh well.

You brand snobs need to get a clue. A bmw pinwheel on the hood isnt worth a dime. A car is a car. I want a fast, good looking rwd coupe.
Since the 1 is so overpriced, I will be taking a hard look at the new Hyundai "genesis" or whatever they will call it. 10/100 will be nice too.
The domestics have been showing a lot of promise lately too.

Not to single you out, because others have had the same reaction, but... when BMW said "under 30" and "mid-30s" for the last few months, what were your expectations?

[evil one]

these prices are quoted for the manuals i assume? so the auto's will be roughly $2k's more? (sorry if this was asked before :iono

[joelk]

Originally Posted by evil one

these prices are quoted for the manuals i assume? so the auto's will be roughly $2k's more? (sorry if this was asked before :iono

yeah

[Smokey]

Originally Posted by evil one

these prices are quoted for the manuals i assume? so the auto's will be roughly $2k's more? (sorry if this was asked before :iono

The step (auto) will probably be around $1375 with the paddle shifters.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by Evan55

Extremely dissapointing pricing. I had hope after last months Motortrend article. Oh well.

You brand snobs need to get a clue. A bmw pinwheel on the hood isnt worth a dime. A car is a car. I want a fast, good looking rwd coupe.
Since the 1 is so overpriced, I will be taking a hard look at the new Hyundai "genesis" or whatever they will call it. 10/100 will be nice too.
The domestics have been showing a lot of promise lately too.

Well, good luck with that. Knock yourself out.

"A bmw pinwheel on the hood isnt worth a dime. A car is a car." - Here you are very, very wrong.

[imported_MPower]

Originally Posted by atr_hugo

A brand new Cayman S - base with Xenons - will run close to $61K - the 135i comes in at ~ 60% of the Cayman's price. You gotta hope it'll be more than 60% of the Cayman's performance.

Gotta love value shopping.

I keep hearing the Cayman S being listed as a competitor but it really isn't in any way except straight line pace. I mean, sure, in comparison to a Ferrari F430, a BMW M5 makes a pretty damn good value proposition for little sacrifice in terms of straight line pace. But that comparison is no means to conclude that any car is properly priced.

At 35,600, the 135i is riding that borderline of reasonable and overpriced. It's not ridiculous but close enough that the 135i at least does not make my heart beat faster. Consider that BMW charges 450 for metallic paint, a Sport Package is probably going to cost a little more than 1,000 (call it 1,250), and you are already looking at a 37,000 dollar car before taxes and miscellaneous charges. If your only determination is straight line speed, the 135i should satisfy. But the N54 isnt going to be enough for me (and most, I reckon) to go running to BMW with the check book.

Here's to waiting for a hopefully cheaper tii. :drinking:

[LonghornTX]

Originally Posted by MPower

Here's to waiting for a hopefully cheaper tii. :drinking:

I doubt the tii, if and when it comes out, will cheaper at all.

[ibeam81]

Originally Posted by Evan55

Extremely dissapointing pricing. I had hope after last months Motortrend article. Oh well.

You brand snobs need to get a clue. A bmw pinwheel on the hood isnt worth a dime. A car is a car. I want a fast, good looking rwd coupe.
Since the 1 is so overpriced, I will be taking a hard look at the new Hyundai "genesis" or whatever they will call it. 10/100 will be nice too.
The domestics have been showing a lot of promise lately too.

I think that the brand snob comment was a little much. You're assuming that because some people got the price right that they have been brainwashed or something by BMW. You must have missed the Marketing 101 class, but the roundel is definitely worth something. It might not be worth that much to you, but surely others will and do disagree.

Frankly a lot of cars seem overpriced these days (Honda's, Toyota's, Nissan's, and Hyundai's can all be priced in the 30Ks), but when compared to prices 20 years ago they are relative bargains. If enough people pass on the 1er then maybe BMW will have to rethink their marketing strategy. But that's really the point; they have a strategy while alot of the posters here seem to have relied on wishfull thinking.

If the 1er is not a good deal, feel free to buy something else. That's what I plan to do, but I really need a test drive first. YMMV.

[imported_MPower]

Originally Posted by LonghornTX

I doubt the tii, if and when it comes out, will cheaper at all.

According to Scott and a member (forget the name) that talked to a UK BMW dealer, the tii will be cheaper

[kurichan]

Originally Posted by WolfsburgerMitFries

Actually that's pretty easy to answer. The 1 series is the entry point to the BMW brand, as you correctly observed. But the BMW brand is a premium brand, so although the 1 series is the entry point to BMW, its still NOT an entry level car, its a premium car.

Ahahahhaaaaa. It's not a premium car, it's an overweight, overpriced, hopped up entry level car.

Just because something is expensive, doesn't mean it's premium.

[ppDoc]

Originally Posted by MPower

According to Scott and a member (forget the name) that talked to a UK BMW dealer, the tii will be cheaper

isn't the tii supposed to be better than the 135i?

[kurichan]

Originally Posted by 1ster

I have the same problem. By the time I build the Cayman S I would have to get, I start questioning the value of what I'm getting for my money.

You get a REAL sports car that drives like one, isn't overweight, and was built from the beginning as a sports car, instead of an overweight, overpriced, hopped up economy car with lots of HP.

[imported_MPower]

Originally Posted by DiaBLoS

isn't the tii supposed to be better than the 135i?

Depends upon how you define better. It will have a four-cylinder engine as opposed to the N54, at least according to these reports. So if you mean "better" in terms of speed, the answer is no.