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That is one awesome interior if that is your car that is...I love E30 M3's
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This would make it the shortest run for any M car ever.
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So that would be technically three model years, right?
What is the average for ///M cars? I would guess 4 or so, based on the typical 7 year lifecycle of most BMW models.... The last Z4 M Coupe was only three years, wasn't it? 07-09....
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03-12-2010, 02:59 PM | #137 |
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Thus why I am still quite the cynic here. I don't beleive it is really coming. Answer me this. If the intent is to draw younger customers to the M brand......Then why would you do that with an aging platform that will have only 2 years of production in its lifecycle? And why would you then start calling it a 1M (Scott's recent post) instead of a real M car name like M1. I am a doubter....just does not fit with regard to timing and also with regard to BMW's current theme of greener more efficient vehicles. Furthermore....why hasn't anyone yet done and IP address search on Scott's more recent posts to find out of there really are out of BMW Munich? So as to insure we don't have an impostor to the real Scott26. Last edited by Mark M; 03-12-2010 at 03:05 PM.. |
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Draw to the brand and buy the car are in fact two different things.
There are people that are in love with a Shelby GT, can't afford IT, then buy the mustang they can afford. Not saying it's smart but people do that. whether 55,000 is too much (first off, he did not say that, he avoided quoting a price over base 135 for the us and simply referenced the market, which i took as all three the conversion rate at the time, the differences necessary to satisfy regulations in our market, and the sales point. Supply and Demand will shift from market to market, THEY KNOW THAT) in your opinion for other people to buy is i guess fun to speculate, but i doubt too many people on these forums are actually professionals in marketing or supply and demand. The only real thing each of us can do is decide if we're buying the car or not. I guess you can try to threaten BMW through Scott if you'd like... IF i can't have this car in 2012 i won't buy it(?) I doubt that. I'm buying this car so long as... My situation doesn't change drastically BMW finances at a rate better than 4% at the time i'm trying to purchase (otherwise i might try to wait for that deal to pop up) and i don't have to buy entire packages for what i want. I am most likely an exception to the rule (in a lot of ways), but the reason i didn't get an M3 is because i'd have to get the navigation system to get the premium audio. I'd love for them to have a minimalist's option as that's what i'll be doing. paying for metallic paint and upgraded audio and that's about it. I don't need power seats if that can be avoided, and the idea of wrapping carbon products into the MSRP is nice but not necessary. If the car ends up in the performance range speculated, i'll be holding onto this car for a long time, which means it doesn't need to be *LOADED* for resale value. So if these Carbon options seem too pricey i might opt to wait until the aftermarket catches up or can confirm the total weight savings. |
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What target market is BMW attempting to entice with the M1?
I'm a newbie, but I've been keeping up with the posts regarding the on again and off again discussions regarding the M1.
Many a board members have stated that BMW is attempting to attract a "younger" crowd with the proposed M1. My question is this: What are these "target buyers" presently driving? Its only reasonable to assume that BMW does not want to cannibalize sales from its own product line, so if potential M1 buyers are not presently driving Bimmers, then what are they driving? Another way to put it is, what car(s) does BMW hope to steal market share from with the M1? For better or worse, I can't think of too many sporty cars in this market price. The only car that comes to mind is a Porsche Boxter, with a base price of $47,600. Any ideas? Martin |
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^^^We can't help it if the rest of the world are lemmings ....LOL...J/k
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Actually they do exist. Other markets get manual windows .
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should you wait for the F 20? maybe so................from autocar
Should I buy one? The 335i is quick, focused and well balanced. However, the age of the basic E90 3-series is beginning to show through |
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What market has a 1 Series coupe with manual windows? Or any 1 Series at all? I'd be surprised if there are any BMWs built anywhere without power windows, unless maybe they're being sold as fleet cars somewhere, and even then I doubt they can justify the cost. |
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Why couldn't they be getting into an M1 lease? Also, you seem to have the impression that people are leasing cars because they can't afford to buy them, and there's really no truth to that most of the time. For someone who's going to trade cars every two or three years anyway, leasing can be a better option, depending on the numbers at the time. |
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Hey Guys. I would appreciate it if you would keep this thread to questions only. It is difficult to trying to find your questions I would like to answer amongst off-topic debate.
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It is likely that towards the end of production that something will happen to the current car especially in light of increased competition. As for the M3 GTS? The M3 GTS has sold out it's allocation and the media will be driving this car in the next few weeks. @Pitkis Quote:
It is being touted as the Performance Diesel and will be placed in upper level cars from the 5 upwards. The first outing of this powerplant will be communicated next year at the IAA in Frankfurt. The badging of these cars is still undetermined but they will be like Diesel versions of the iS car in concept which means a slightly more sporty appearance and individual aero packet. This engine embodes everything about the "Efficient Dynamics" philosophy such as Great performance and excellent efficiency. @RadioClash Quote:
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The Z4 again was a low cost car to develop as the engine came from the E46 M3 and the car was originally designed as Coupe too but placed on hiatus. Coupe was introduced to prop up the Z4 is some markets where the Roadster was not doing well than expected. With the 1-M the basis engine for this car is where the major development has gine into this project as like the V8 from the X5M and X6M being the basis for the upcoming M5 , The 1-M powerplant will be the basis for the next M3 model. When I say the basis they will be totally different in character and performance it will not be just one engine , one car The engine will be directed to accompany the car not be a simple transplant from one car to the next. Last edited by SCOTT26; 03-13-2010 at 03:26 PM.. |
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Thanks Scott. As always, I appreciate the answers. Well, I am officially excited again.....
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