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04-08-2013, 05:53 PM | #177 | |
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no strange noises, feels exactly the same as when it was installed no visual damage to any components i'll be taking it all apart in 2-3 months so i'll take some pictures of it all for you guys, 5000mi or so in depth report . i think i might even get it all powdercoated for shiny's haha. |
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06-18-2013, 05:57 AM | #179 |
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Yes. The steering is a bit heavier, but importantly its more tactile and gives more feedback. That's something I'm extremely happy about, because I thought the steering was imprecise before doing the mod.
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06-18-2013, 10:18 AM | #180 | |
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Yes, I have seen 1Addict member's report that the steering does indeed feel slightly heavier than before. I wonder what the steering would feel like if one also installed the 1M tie rods. ?
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soo.. more 'i wonder how it would feel with the 'M' steering rack which is a MUCH quicker ratio... so, it would feel REALLY fast ahaha |
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06-18-2013, 05:03 PM | #182 | |
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i actually like it when i'm not in a bad mood (I was last night lol) it'sa GOOD weight, makes it feel like.. well more like how much the car weighs really |
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06-18-2013, 06:52 PM | #183 |
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With countless experiences with OEM vs OE, get the OE parts at the dealer.
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10-08-2013, 02:29 PM | #187 | |
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It's not exactly new for the OEMs to sell parts going "around" the brand. If you have proof, please by all means, put it out there. I think you're making a lot of baseless assertions and spreading FUD in spite of what we do know about these parts. I've seen you do this before as well with the Bosch plugs. I just don't get it. You just cannot back your claims up.
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10-08-2013, 04:23 PM | #191 | |
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Lets talk in the hypothetical... When a parts supplier makes "widgets" for a big automobile company and say 30% of those "widgets" fail to meet the automobile manufacture's design criteria... What do you think happens to all those parts that did not meet the OE design specs? They get sold as OEM parts - they are not gonna throw "almost" good parts away! Sometimes the company's name even gets grounded off the casting. I have no proof how well these TRW parts hold up - BUT I don't want to be testing them on MY car. Especially for something as critical as a suspension piece. I know from personal experience that I will only use OE (BMW) parts. That goes for suspension parts and even water pumps - most any part for my car I will only buy at my dealership. I have learned my lesson well - thru the years of German car ownership AND maintenance. YOU can use what ever part you like. Just don't say that an OEM (aftermarket) part is the same as a OE (BMW) part. I have seen this before with Brembo brakes in my Porsche days. Everyone would say its the same part just not in the Porsche parts box. NOOP! There IS a difference. Whether the average customer will "see" that difference is another topic. As for the Insurance industry (statement above) @Ginger_Extract... I think it is criminal to insure a car... and yet when the time comes to repair said car back to factory specs... you guys use or will only pay for cheap Chinese OEM parts. I would never put up with that. My car was made in Germany... and I want German spec'd parts used on it. Thats all I am gonna say on that subject. @Obioban - I total can see why your indi will not deal with OEM (seconds) parts.
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Some information to think about, when discussing OEM v. OE parts. Also, thanks for implying that the work of hundreds of thousands of people, along with myself is "criminal".
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I do not think most insurer's "realize" they have the "right" to specify what kind of parts will be used when rebuilding their crashed car.
I am sure you and your company are on the up and up. I was just trying to make a point. I hope you did not take it personally.
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But, I already have emails stating they're not factory seconds, and they meet all standards and specifications... They simply make more money selling lower volume stuff as %profit.. Boosts the bottom line. there's enough people running these to trust their strength and performance, mine are absolutely perfect BMR here in australia has sold quite a lot of sets locally, with no complaints. with parts like these, you have to remember, 'not quite meeting spec' can KILL people.. there's no 'not quite at spec'.. there's 'batch is up to standard' or 'batch gets recycled or thrown away' simple. and the way you say 'OEM (aftermarket)'.. no, it's just not sold to BMW then to the consumer... there's nothing magical that happens between the factory and it getting sent to BMW to get to you... well.. unless you count a markup as 'magic' and the 'ground off logo' is simply because they can't legally sell it without grinding off the logo no matter what. FWIW: ~20,000km on my own set, and i've visually inspected them and the bushes... they may as well still be new for all it matters haha Besides, 30% would be WAY too high a failure rate, even 5-10% is unfeasible.. and wouldn't be able to keep up reasonable supply all over the world in OEM items. and lastly, do you think such a company as TRW would risk their name and future business selling potentially defective goods?... enough bad reports and they'd lose future contracts, like said BMW M3 control arm production. ED: and for the 'even water pumps' comment... well when you're not even guaranteed to crack 60k miles on an OEBMW one, there's absolutely no harm in going a cheaper third party or OEM imo :P > Quote:
so even if you bring in your own BMW genuine part they won't install it? that's terrible learn to take a tough stance on stuff and have better documentation... rather than become a terrible workshop. Last edited by flinchy; 10-09-2013 at 01:30 AM.. |
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I think a far more likely scenario is that someone at TRW said "Hey, BMW just ordered 5000 widgets. You know, we could manufacture 10000 widgets at our highly efficient German manufacturing plant for not much more than it would take to make 5000, sell the excess on the OEM market and near double our profits. Of course, we would have to grind off any BMW branding as it's illegal for us at TRW to use trademarks we don't own."
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