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09-23-2007, 04:00 PM | #23 |
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I've seen similar monstrosities here in the Bay Area. I don't understand that mentality at all. What motivates a person to drive around looking like a damned fool?
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09-23-2007, 09:29 PM | #24 |
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In college i remember a toyota TERCEL... yes TERCEL with a BMW ish body kit on it. Made me wanna throw up.
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09-24-2007, 07:23 AM | #27 |
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U.S. doesn't usually get a 'badge delete' option. In fact our packages and ala carte options have been significantly different from European offerings. Typically, more things are standard, sunroof for example, and more options are packaged together, leaving less ala carte choices.
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09-24-2007, 10:12 AM | #28 |
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09-30-2007, 01:17 PM | #29 |
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I am obviously hanged up on the price (like many others), but it looks like 128 for pretty close to $30k, which means you pay more than $30k as a walk out price for the base. If you consider retrospective, the base 3 series before the model change was below $30K, so it comes close to that model. BMW has cleverly delaied the launch of 1-series, let 3 series' prices creep up (who was the mastermind behind 325 to 328 conversion?), made a room and just under $30K look like a steal. Marketing genious, but if you look at what kind of money they sell their products in Europe, I guess it is still a steal for real...
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09-30-2007, 01:57 PM | #30 |
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I am only stationed over here so my options through military sales are the same as the US market but my dealer stated that "badge delete" would be an option for me.:iono:
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09-30-2007, 02:52 PM | #31 |
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Great! Ask the dealer if you could also get Sunroof Delete (not that you'd want it, but just to hear his answer).
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09-30-2007, 03:49 PM | #32 | |
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LOL... Just go test drive a BMW, any BMW. Not one of those cursarary a 10 minute test drive either, but a good 30 minute drive. The 1 series is an inexpensive BMW and so I guess that means that many here are getting their feet wet with BMW. Meaning, they are clueless... and compairing this 1 series to anything in this price range is hard. Only because they don't have a foundation for the engineering and drivability that is part of the DNA of BMW. Those that know and experience this daily don't think about it any more. Porsche are awsome sportscars, but somehow feel lacking when traveling more than an hour. If your pretty rich and have money for a second car to track 2-5 times a year, than buy a Porsche. I almost pulled the trigger on a Porsche Cayman S, but when you get to know the car, it's too involving to enjoy everyday. The 135i will not dissapoint! Many here concerned over a few grand or "how good" this car is just need to wait to test drive it. But compairing it stat-wize to other cars in catergory is pointless. Absolutly pointless! I simply adore the minimal, spartan interior of the e82 over the e90. Thats why I don't own a 335i.... because I was sooo in love with the e46 driver-centric design. SO, here I am waiting like the rest of you to test drive a new 1 series (135i). -Garrett |
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10-02-2007, 02:52 PM | #33 | |
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I'm sure there are quite a few people out there like Garrett who will spend the extra money for the driving dynamics of the car, but not nearly enough to make the 1 Series a success in the US if it is priced to high. There was a time not to many years ago when a large portion of BMW's cutomers were real driving enthusiasts, but that has changed drastically in the last 5-10 years, and BMW needs to be competitive with both pricing & design to keep growing it's market share. Anyone who needs proof of this needs only look at the list of standard features on any new Bimmer, to see how the shift in priorities has impacted the vehicles that they sell. Whether BMW or any of us like it, there are more & more good cars competing for the same dollars every year. |
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10-02-2007, 07:02 PM | #34 |
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It would be interesting to find out who on this board spent 50-60k on a BMW with incomes under 100k(!).....my priorities are my kids and their college.....I'm not going to drive a 60k BMW in South FL traffic thinking I'm "Mr Autobahn" while my kids rack up tons of student loan debt.... .....I can think of only 1 road down here where I can be "driving enthusiastic", the Sawgrass Expressway....unfortunately it's teeming with FHP....cmon folks, from your signatures, very few of you are from places where you can open up these cars on the road without risking serious repercussions from the law or risking death(anyone from Montana?).....and besides, the average driver, and I'm addressing everyone on this board without serious professional instruction or experience, has absolutely no business driving any BMW over 100-110 mph on a road....
That's why the 135 appeals to me......the thought of nice off the line and passing performance throwing me back in my seat, good looks, at a reasonable 38k (?)......my car will never be driven over 90 MPH and I'm proud of that fact..... |
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10-02-2007, 07:36 PM | #35 |
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It will happen eventually. E90 use to be informative and consist of a mature crowd. Now it's just bunch of kids with baller mentality.
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From my experience some BMW owners are just like everyone else and love the car for what it is. Some its a status symbol. Go troll the 6 series fourms on bimmerfest and you can see alot of this tude. Like calling people who park next to their 650 in parking lots "ferals".
Some of the best car people I have talked with have been M3 owners (almost bought a used one istead of my RX8). |
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10-12-2007, 11:19 AM | #39 |
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Your comparing Apples to oranges. If you want a car that drives like Volvo, go buy a Volvo and you will pay a Volvo price. Don't expect to buy a BMW and pay a Volvo price.
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But people will and do... Once you own a BMW it's hard to drive anything else. It's hard to explain unless you owned one. -Garrett |
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10-12-2007, 07:55 PM | #41 | |
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My current daily driver is a 2004 MINI Cooper S (w/custom exhaust, 15% pulley, C/A intake) as well as a 1979 Austin Mini (1275) & a 1974 Morris Mini 1000. So I have a little experience with BMW's & going around corners at speed. |
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