Water/Methanol injection info thread

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by JB4135

I wouldn't have meth if it wasn't for your help Edwin

[JB4-335]

Originally Posted by BMW86

I wouldn't have meth if it wasn't for your help Edwin

No worries Vinney. I'm glad its all working as it should. Now you can enjoy the car this summer and have it running as if it was winter.

[BBK]

So what was the problem Vinney?

[JB4-335]

Originally Posted by BBK

So what was the problem Vinney?

He wasn't pressing the pedal on the far right hard enough.

[BBK]

Originally Posted by JB4135

He wasn't pressing the pedal on the far right hard enough.

Although, I've been in his car with him driving before. If anything, he uses the right pedal WAY too much!

[BostonBeemah]

Originally Posted by xerox445

You could also just run winter time windshield wiper fluid, depending on the brand, it can have between 20% and 50% methanol mixed in with it.

Notice how the wintertime windshield wiper fluid evaporates way faster and cuts and melts ice better? Its gots more meth in it.

The most meth % I've seen in windshield wiper fluid here in Jersey is 35%, but I have read online, states that are "further north, and colder" have higher formulations. "Peak -20deg" is like a bit over 30% if I can remember correctly. Edit: Peak -20deg is approx %33 meth. Note these are by weight, not volume.


Peak -25deg is 35% Meth.

This looks like the 0 Deg stuff, which is less then 23% Meth, but you get the idea.


Also you can add "Heet" to the mixture, and bump up your percentages, but you have to know your volume, and what type of WWF your running to being with. HEET is 99% Meth, but it is highly hygroscopic, and because its basic pure meth, you have to treat it just like you with would "real" meth, so once you open it, you have to dump the whole thing in. Its also going to evaporate very fast, so its best to make a premix outside the car with 1 gallon of WWF and 2 of these, or at whatever concentration you decide to run.



Adding 2 of these to a gallon of -20 peak WWF gives you almost a straight 50/50 mix of meth and water. I wouldn't recommend this for the WW kit, but its an easy and not that expensive way to make a 50/50 consistent solution for around 5 dollars a gallon or so if you cant get methanol in your area.



If your concerned with spraying meth on the windshield and or car, stick to just the Peak -25deg winter fluid, its a 35% mix, and obviously wont do any harm to the car. You could just add 1 12oz Heet do the WWF for about a 44% Meth to Water ratio.

Also two more VERY IMPORTANT FACTORS!

1. If you live in a hot environment, you may not even have WWF with meth in it. It will say like 32deg or something like that. All your going to be spraying is soap and water...no meth. No bueno!

2. A good rule of thumb is to try to stay away from anything but blue colored WWF. Stuff thats orange, pink, purple, green, red...again....NO BUENO! These usually have GLYCOL in them and detergents, namely those "bug cutting ones"

So basicly what I am saying, if you want to run the WW kit, and retain the sprayers, and not take the paint off the car, just use the peak -25, and run a 35/65 Meth to water ratio. Any questions?

Thanks for all the great info!! Thinking of getting the WW kit and this was a big help in terms of being able to get my hands on meth easily!

[BMW86]

Lol my meth stopped flowing again! It happened just when I was showing a couple friends my car for the first time.. Needless to say.. they were blown away with Map 1 12.5psi!! I'll check it over today, I'm sure it's a small air leak somewhere.

Meth definitely isn't one of those 'set it and forget it' mods though.

[JB4-335]

Originally Posted by BMW86

Lol my meth stopped flowing again! It happened just when I was showing a couple friends my car for the first time.. Needless to say.. they were blown away with Map 1 12.5psi!! I'll check it over today, I'm sure it's a small air leak somewhere.

Meth definitely isn't one of those 'set it and forget it' mods though.

Definitely air getting in somehow (sorry Vin I think that probably the 1000000th time i've said that to you).

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by JB4135

Definitely air getting in somehow (sorry Vin I think that probably the 1000000th time i've said that to you).

t's funny because I had my meth kit installed (but not in use) for at least a month and when I finally got around to playing with it, all I did was trim the ends of the tube and test primed on 7/5 and it started working!

[JB4-335]

Originally Posted by BMW86

t's funny because I had my meth kit installed (but not in use) for at least a month and when I finally got around to playing with it, all I did was trim the ends of the tube and test primed on 7/5 and it started working!

You and that meth kit are like a husband and wife (always at each other).

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by JB4135

You and that meth kit are like a husband and wife (always at each other).

So it turns out I wasn't spraying meth because it was EMPTY!!!

FAIL!!!

Hellllooooo... 16psi!

[BBK]

AAAahahahahahahaa good one!

Speaking of, I'm in need of a new drum of meth... are we still doing a 200L buy?

[pcockley]

Wtf 200l!!!! I'm glad you don't live next door to me.

[RaihaX]

How big is a 200L drum lol?

[BBK]

Yeah but we were going to share it between 3-4 people so it's really only 50L or so each which worked out to be cheaper than buying 20L drums individually! Vinney was donating his garage to store the majority of it :-D

[RaihaX]

for a second there I am imagining your garages have like multiple 200L drums of methanol....

I was just praying that no fire ever come visit your house!

[BMW86]

Yes completely forgot about that Richard. I'm keen but I have no idea how to bring the drum home and then divide it amongst ourselves. Lol and there's no way I'm keeping a 200L drum at my house, empty or not! It's huge!

[pcockley]

I am buying the BMS meth kit and was wondering is there any change in setup from one to two nozzles? I am assuming you split the line just before the nozzles into two?

If that's the case I might get 1*cm10 and 2*cm7 to play around with the setup.

BTW Dirty Dog your mail is full

[JB4-335]

Hey Paul, you need to place a T piece after the solenoid for the dual setup.
I am going to use the old sound generator location near the TB for my second nozzle. I don't think 335's have that piece coming off the CP.
Do you have the stock CP or are you gonna get an AR Elbow?

[pcockley]

I have an ER charge pipe with 2 meth bungs near the first bend that comes from the FMIC

[BMW86]

Originally Posted by JB4135

Hey Paul, you need to place a T piece after the solenoid for the dual setup.
I am going to use the old sound generator location near the TB for my second nozzle. I don't think 335's have that piece coming off the CP.
Do you have the stock CP or are you gonna get an AR Elbow?

Edwin, are you running the dual yet and do you have any pics?

[MrBlonde]

Originally Posted by pcockley

I am buying the BMS meth kit and was wondering is there any change in setup from one to two nozzles? I am assuming you split the line just before the nozzles into two?

If that's the case I might get 1*cm10 and 2*cm7 to play around with the setup.

BTW Dirty Dog your mail is full

Paul I think two CM7 nozzles would be overkill. Forget about a CM10. Too much methanol reduces performance!

Do not fall into the American trap of more more more!