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11-15-2009, 04:08 PM | #46 |
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Not really Gti.... I struggled to understand that until Sparoz clarified!
Sparoz - Mate, I respect your honesty about the experience. It should serve as solid guidance for those of us that want to have a little "play"
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11-15-2009, 07:51 PM | #47 |
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i was doing donuts in the rain the other day after a crap day and remembered this thread and so tried out a few power slides with dtc on. i think you gotta let the dtc do all the work as i was over correcting at first too. i didn't like it but i can see how if you went into an a slide without intending to it could save you. its not fun mode if your trying to have fun i don't think. i find timyoyo the most fun as its predictable.
and as far as timyoyo goes, after driving my car really hard for months with all the controls on, it was like learning to drive again driving really hard with all controls off. i forgot how much the car does to keep you on the road. i have been becoming lazy just throwing it into any corner knowing the car will almost drive itself out. its good to drive in tim yoyo mode every now and then |
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04-18-2010, 03:32 PM | #49 |
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Good stuff.
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04-18-2010, 11:10 PM | #50 |
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I find it a bit odd that they say DTC is for gravel/snow, as i've played around with DSC on in the wet and it works pretty well in cutting the power and keeping you in control. That said i had to take a detour in land on the way up to Coffs the other year along a few gravel roads & even with DSC on it was like driving the car with it turned off, which was a tad surprising...
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04-21-2010, 06:46 PM | #51 |
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I guess this is one of those "aha" moments for me, when I realized there was something I should have done. Last week we were in the Southern Highlands, and visited Berrima (too twee for me, but that's another story). We angle parked on the side of the road, pointing downhill, one side in gravel, the other side in grass. Came to back out, and the embarrassment! I started to dig in, and spun the wheels. Fortunately, I managed to drive forward into a vacant grassy lot and was able to keep traction until I U-turned and got out. This sort of thing never happened with my RX-8, which had a LSD.
OK, just to check, I should have clicked the DTC button briefly to get some improvement in traction; is that right? I have to say that while we love the ride on well-paved roads, there were wineries we didn't visit because they were down corrugated dirt roads. Many of the bitumen roads weren't that good either, being largely composed of patches rather than original surface. |
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For example, since you had the two driving wheels parked on different surfaces, I should think DSC would have worked better for you, since this tends to minimize relative motion between the driving wheels to the greatest degree. When one wheel began to slip, the system should have braked it and applied more power to the wheel with grip? Such would be my guess anyway, but I would be interested to hear other's opinions as well... ianc |
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04-22-2010, 09:31 PM | #54 |
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When it brakes the spinning wheel, the engine power & driveshaft speed has to go somewhere. By default it goes to the wheel with more grip.
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Not always the case as there is a lot more going on than just weight transfer. Depends on how much wheelspin there is in the first place, how hard you lift off, and your drift angle in the first place. A hard drop in throttle can cause the rears to grip despite weight transfer forward as the drive energy reduces faster than the available grip drops off. Been there, done that enough times to know better. On all sorts of cars, motorcycles, quads and snowmobiles - and different if it's awd or fwd or rwd. And it can cause a fishtail in the opposite direction - which can be fun or disastrous.
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I drove in the snow with DTC on for about an hour to and from work in the blizzard this year, so speeds were under 30mph the whole time and DTC was going nuts. I kept backing off the gas to save the brakes but I couldnt lose momentum or risk getting stranded, so now the rear brakes have this nasty squeal from being overheated.
That being said, I wouldnt use DTC at the track because how it can compromise your braking. Although at the same time I wouldnt recommend turning it off because the car is a handful without a mechanical LSD. And in the rain you have no choice but to leave it on because once you get in the boost the car will come around on you too quick even when you have the car pointed straight the car still has a tendency to come around. Its a pretty bad oversight to load a car up with so much torque at 1500 rpm and not give it a mechanical LSD. |
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04-21-2012, 08:41 AM | #62 |
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I'm waiting for someone to post 'TIM YOYO' as a vanity plate. If I had anything but a 128 I'd do it but I have found that even in TIM YOYO mode it's pretty sedate so having it on my car would be stupid and pretty presumptuous. Any volunteers?
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You can do it in QLD when they put the 7 letters plate on. Not sure when it's going to happen next.
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If they ever make the t-shirts they should update the dsc icon to the tailend fishtailing... Speaking of which, it would be cool to see the new icon on a plate next to the words TIMYOYO.
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