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      05-26-2010, 05:32 AM   #1
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Holy Rolling 1 Series Batman!

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      05-26-2010, 07:48 AM   #4
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Nice! It definitely looks like the inside tires are lifting off the pavement a little.
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      05-26-2010, 10:59 AM   #7
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Nice! It definitely looks like the inside tires are lifting off the pavement a little.
Enhanced a bit to show detail (including tire)...
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      05-26-2010, 11:02 AM   #8
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swayy barrsss!
Andy has M3 sway bars, M3 front bits (tension and LCA), and rear subframe bushings.

My best guess is that there's a little oversteer or drifting going on there, exaggerating the lean, and the orig pic was a bit off level.

Here's orig:
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      05-26-2010, 12:15 PM   #9
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Enhanced a bit to show detail (including tire)...
AWESOME!!!!!!

Love this setup!
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      05-26-2010, 03:01 PM   #10
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Horizon is off which exaggerates the roll.

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      05-26-2010, 03:05 PM   #11
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Horizon is off which exaggerates the roll.

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Good point, but his inside tires are def. coming off the ground regardless.
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      05-26-2010, 03:13 PM   #12
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It's a heavy, narrow car. I am not surprised that the wheels come up. You have to lower the center of gravity and stiffen up the corners to reduce this type of body roll.
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      05-26-2010, 04:14 PM   #13
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It's a heavy, narrow car. I am not surprised that the wheels come up. You have to lower the center of gravity and stiffen up the corners to reduce this type of body roll.
Who wants that when you can get awesome shots like this!!!
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      05-26-2010, 06:11 PM   #14
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Horizon is off which exaggerates the roll.

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Right, I fixed that in my edit of the orig, along with a few other tweaks.

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Good point, but his inside tires are def. coming off the ground regardless.
Look at the enhanced version of the exact same pic. The inside edge is still on the ground, and it's because of the added negative camber that the outside is not touching.
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      05-26-2010, 08:29 PM   #15
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2.5 degrees camber to be exact.
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      05-26-2010, 10:08 PM   #17
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Horizon is off which exaggerates the roll.
Good point... Lets fix that.
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      05-26-2010, 11:25 PM   #19
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mmm those are some wide tires
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      05-27-2010, 07:51 AM   #20
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mmm those are some wide tires
Yep, they sure are!

Same car, with me driving at same corner, mid-drift (2nd pic shows car position fraction of a second earlier):
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      05-27-2010, 08:50 AM   #21
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are you on the stock suspension?

how much grip do you have now compared to the runflats? Has the overall balance changed or are you still understeering with the staggered setup?
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are you on the stock suspension?
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Andy has M3 sway bars, M3 front bits (tension and LCA), and M3 rear subframe bushings.
Along with the M3 bits, Andy's car has -2.5 camber up front via Vorschlag plates, Eibach springs, and 255F/275R Star Specs.

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how much grip do you have now compared to the runflats? Has the overall balance changed or are you still understeering with the staggered setup?

You cannot really compare this car (or mine, which is very similarly set up) to a stock suspended 135i with runflats. They are two very different animals. There's heaps more grip and gobs of better - and more predictable - turn in. Both Andy (arrutled) and I were driving the car at about 60mph in these pics, around a fairly tight sweeper. VERY fun!
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