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      08-03-2019, 07:41 PM   #23
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Glad to see all the Dem Candidates railing on more gun control. Anyone with an IQ under 75 will agree with them.

One good guy properly trained with a gun could have stopped him.

I want to see the facts.
Yeah the good guys all have guns theory. I highly doubt he was the only one with a gun at Walmart in Texas.. but then again itís the only the guys with guns doing the shooting. How again do we tell which gun owner is the good guy?
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Republican NRA policy event in El Paso.

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You're a dumbass for making this a gop/dem thing. It's a terrible tragedy perpetrated by an obviously deranged young man. Shame on you!
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You're a dumbass for making this a gop/dem thing. It's a terrible tragedy perpetrated by an obviously deranged young man. Shame on you!
Well said. No doubt some serious mental health issues. Here's a great idea, let the police investigate before everyone goes off with their hair on fire.

I'm adding this bit as an after thought as it's been nagging at me for a while now. Identity politics is going to be the downfall of western democracy. All this us vs them shit is not productive. How about some meaningful debate where we discuss like adults our position, based on fact and morals and ethics and topped off with some passion. I'm so sick of being called names by folks who don't share my views....my views have been well founded by decades of life experience (my own and often different than others), I'm happy to listen to others views, if I disagree I push back and sometimes hard but I don't see any advantage to slinging mud. Just my two cents.

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You've proven your ignorance. Reagan was certainly not a big gun rights supporter. He passed plenty of gun control measures as Governor of California.

But most of us already knew you were ignorant.
He was a gun rights supporter as the people were he placed on the Supreme Court
https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-rights...-reagan-721343

Your confusing the wackos like Bush and Trump that politicized gun rights for votes, appealing to the ammo-fetishers-sexual types, the guys with high bad cholesterol that canít maintain an erection.
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Yeah the good guys all have guns theory. I highly doubt he was the only one with a gun at Walmart in Texas.. but then again it’s the only the guys with guns doing the shooting. How again do we tell which gun owner is the good guy?
And there is part of the problem. Its easy to say that a good guy with a gun could have stopped him. I try to put myself in this situation. You have mass pandamonium. You have a shooter putting out lile;y 50 to 100 bullets in maybe one minute. It would be impossible to get a shot whereby you would not hit an innocent either in back or front of the shooter.

The proper move would be to seek cover and hope (I guess) the shooter moved toward your direction so as to get of a couple accurate rounds. Chances are very very slim that you would have such a person there like that and even if you did..a safe shot might have not have presented itself. Very very very difficult situation.

I have discussed these "types" of senairos with my instructor. And this is what he said is the proper action.

Add to that. The recognized role of the SD person would be to get out of Dodge. You have no obligation so save anyone but your self. I would hope (although I don't know for sure) at the age of 73, I would do what was right. Again..easy to say as we type on our keyboards.
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He was a gun rights supporter as the people were he placed on the Supreme Court
https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-rights...-reagan-721343

Your confusing the wackos like Bush and Trump that politicized gun rights for votes, appealing to the ammo-fetishers-sexual types, the guys with high bad cholesterol that canít maintain an erection.
Did.....did you even read the article you linked?

Here's a quote from it:

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But words and actions of Reagan, the 40th President of the United States, left behind a mixed record on gun rights.
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You're a dumbass for making this a gop/dem thing. It's a terrible tragedy perpetrated by an obviously deranged young man. Shame on you!
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Did.....did you even read the article you linked?

Here's a quote from it:
Another quote from the piece. Policy wonk on this
ďHis presidential administration did not bring about any new gun control laws of significance. However, in his post-presidency, Reagan cast his support to a pair of critical gun control measures in the 1990s: 1993ísĒ

Charlton Heston and Tom Selleck two other early 1980ís gun bozo supporters who gave us the aughts and later gun massacre epidemic.
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You're a dumbass for making this a gop/dem thing. It's a terrible tragedy perpetrated by an obviously deranged young man. Shame on you!
Holy shit, Scott. If Dodger is calling you out, then you are really, really far off the rails.
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You're a dumbass for making this a gop/dem thing. It's a terrible tragedy perpetrated by an obviously deranged young man. Shame on you!
Holy shit, Scott. If Dodger is calling you out, then you are really, really far off the rails.
This is a tragic situation. You're not sounding any better than singer.
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Then there’s this idiot

in a pathetic attempt at ironic humor, Singer calls ANYONE an 'idiot'
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So an overweight white girl writing for the Wash Examiner is the nascent conservative dusche giving the nutters the old Alex Jones, Sandy Hook conspiracy theory foil.
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Condolences to all of the families and friends who lost a loved one.

Scott, you and I are almost always at odds but I implore you to edit the title and make it more respectful to those who died and were injured.

While gun control may be political, tragedies are not and no rational human being wants this type of event to occur. Moreover, no rational human being would seek to profit ideologically from it.

Do the right thing on this.

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So an overweight white girl writing for the Wash Examiner is the nascent conservative dusche giving the nutters the old Alex Jones, Sandy Hook conspiracy theory foil.
What is up with you. Why the name calling? Why all the rhetoric? 20 people are dead, many injured and what you're doing isn't making any of this better. You should do the decent thing and dial it back a bit.
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Republican NRA policy event in El Paso.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...lmart-mall.amp
I can't respond the way I would like else I would be permanently banned.

Glad to see all the Dem Candidates railing on more gun control. Anyone with an IQ under 75 will agree with them.

One good guy properly trained with a gun could have stopped him.

I want to see the facts.
I don't disagree with the premise, but if any geographic location would be likely to have a "good guy with a gun", it'd be TX.

Right?
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Then there's this idiot

in a pathetic attempt at ironic humor, Singer calls ANYONE an 'idiot'
Well, in this case he's not wrong.

Even a broken clock/blind squirrel/etc....
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So an overweight white girl writing for the Wash Examiner is the nascent conservative dusche giving the nutters the old Alex Jones, Sandy Hook conspiracy theory foil.
Youíve got a lot of hate in there Scott.
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