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      05-20-2014, 06:19 AM   #23
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If only APEX would come out with a 17" wheel for us. They have one for every other vehicle they make wheels for (except the mustang) . . .
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If only APEX would come out with a 17" wheel for us. They have one for every other vehicle they make wheels for (except the mustang) . . .
I've emailed to ask for a 17" 1er specific fitment and the response I got said their solution, although not ideal offsets, is the 17x8.5 +40 ARC-8. I guess since they have something that is "close enough" and they know how to make them work, they probably won't make one specific for us unfortunately.

If they made a 1er fitment 17" EC-7 I'd buy them in a heartbeat.

The trend with wheels seems to be 18"+ sizing is the most popular so I'm afraid we're the minority.
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I've emailed to ask for a 17" 1er specific fitment and the response I got said their solution, although not ideal offsets, is the 17x8.5 +40 ARC-8. I guess since they have something that is "close enough" and they know how to make them work, they probably won't make one specific for us unfortunately.

If they made a 1er fitment 17" EC-7 I'd buy them in a heartbeat.

The trend with wheels seems to be 18"+ sizing is the most popular so I'm afraid we're the minority.
17x8.5 ET40 fit, but boy they are tight



Unfortunately we, being 1 series don't have the market for APEX to do custom wheels for us yet
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      05-21-2014, 07:47 AM   #28
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17x8.5 ET40 fit, but boy they are tight

Unfortunately we, being 1 series don't have the market for APEX to do custom wheels for us yet
I've test fit some 17x8.5 ET40 wheels with Dunlop street tires from my E36 M3 and I don't like how tight it is up front. For a street only DD, I would want a wheel that was either 17x8 ET 40 or 17x8.5 ET45 to be comfortable with the fitment.

I have some 17x9 ET 30 ARC-8s with 255 NT-01s for the M3 that I'm going to put on the 128i just for the hell of it to see how bad it is.
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I've test fit some 17x8.5 ET40 wheels with Dunlop street tires from my E36 M3 and I don't like how tight it is up front. For a street only DD, I would want a wheel that was either 17x8 ET 40 or 17x8.5 ET45 to be comfortable with the fitment.

I have some 17x9 ET 30 ARC-8s with 255 NT-01s for the M3 that I'm going to put on the 128i just for the hell of it to see how bad it is.
Interesting how you say you would want ET45 up front.

I'm ET40 + a 5mm spacer to clear my front coilover, so I'm effectively running ET35.

I needed to roll front fenders a bit to make sure I don't rub on high compression. But I'm also running quite low, so I needed to roll

I need to find ways to fit 17x9s on the car along with 255 tires
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Interesting how you say you would want ET45 up front.

I'm ET40 + a 5mm spacer to clear my front coilover, so I'm effectively running ET35.

I needed to roll front fenders a bit to make sure I don't rub on high compression. But I'm also running quite low, so I needed to roll

I need to find ways to fit 17x9s on the car along with 255 tires
I'm completely stock suspension and camber so that's probably why it looked so tight up front. With upwards of 3* camber it probably would fit fine but I have no real plans to add camber besides the Dinan plates I have yet to put on.

I'll take some pictures of the 17x9s when I put them on. It won't be apples to apples due to suspension differences but its better than nothing.
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I've emailed to ask for a 17" 1er specific fitment and the response I got said their solution, although not ideal offsets, is the 17x8.5 +40 ARC-8. I guess since they have something that is "close enough" and they know how to make them work, they probably won't make one specific for us unfortunately.

If they made a 1er fitment 17" EC-7 I'd buy them in a heartbeat.

The trend with wheels seems to be 18"+ sizing is the most popular so I'm afraid we're the minority.
I emailed them also and hot the same respond. But I don't want to roll my rear fenders!!
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I think the issue with a 17" up front is the strut gets in the way. I don't think 17x8.5 ET45 will fit. There isn't enough space up front.

Here's 18x8.5 ET45. Dropping to 17" means you hit the strut. ET40 might work, but then you lose 5mm of space.

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I think the issue with a 17" up front is the strut gets in the way. I don't think 17x8.5 ET45 will fit. There isn't enough space up front.

Here's 18x8.5 ET45. Dropping to 17" means you hit the strut. ET40 might work, but then you lose 5mm of space.
What size tires are shown in those pictures?

I'd be fine with a 17x8" with proper offset if that is needed. I've pretty much accepted that I'll eventually get 17" ARC-8 with 235 summer tires at some point but I'm not entirely thrilled about having to "make it work". I've got an M3 that takes up all my play money right now anyways so I'm not too worried about it.
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Thanks for @JVB for pointing me to this thread.....

Hi all,

my brothers got my old BBK setup which was for my 130i E81 which I never fitted to my car but only to realise that the rears are different fitting for the sodding E82 125i

- The rear discs are different so guess they can be changed?
- Rear caliper not fitting as the mounting hole bolts aren't long enough? (going on what he told me)
- Hand brake shoe wont fit? can be modded?

Looking at the first post which Part numbers would he need to fit the Performance calipers on the rear?

Any help would be great

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      03-26-2015, 02:16 PM   #35
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If they made a 1er fitment 17" EC-7 I'd buy them in a heartbeat.

The trend with wheels seems to be 18"+ sizing is the most popular so I'm afraid we're the minority.
I'm with you there, in a heartbeat.
I run 18's in summer, but 17's for winter (more sidewall is better for all the winter potholes here).
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Thanks for JVB for point to this thread.....

Hi all,

my brothers got my old BBK setup which was for my 130i E81 which I never fitted to my car but only to realise that the rears are different fitting for the sodding E82 125i
This is the right place for this.
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- The rear discs are different so guess they can be changed?
If you have e81 rear BBK caliper and rear BBK disk, then all you need is a e81 Hub on the e82. Also by BBK I think you mean BMW performance 4 caliper kit for 130i.

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- Rear caliper not fitting as the mounting hole bolts aren't long enough? (going on what he told me)
I dont think this is an issue. If this is my original post has a link to a Z4 forum where someone has a part number for a long Bolt
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- Hand brake shoe wont fit? can be modded?
130i handbrake shoes are large diameter. 125i brake shoes are small diameter. So they don't work.
The solution is one of 3 choices - I will edit here later to explain ( enlarged 125i 128i brake shoes, custom fit 130i/135i brake shoes with welded piece, e46 m3brake shoes)

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Looking at the first post which Part numbers would he need to fit the Performance calipers on the rear?
Any help would be great
BMW perf calipers is what you referred as BBK above?
If so all you need is
2x 130i Hub
2x new 125i rear bearing cuz it will be damaged on install.
Handbrake solution

OR if you want new rear rotors, it is just this:
2x 135i rear rotors
Handbrake solution

both solutions will have you bend back/ cut the rear dust shield a bit
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This is the right place for this.

If you have e81 rear BBK caliper and rear BBK disk, then all you need is a e81 Hub on the e82. Also by BBK I think you mean BMW performance 4 caliper kit for 130i.


I dont think this is an issue. If this is my original post has a link to a Z4 forum where someone has a part number for a long Bolt

130i handbrake shoes are large diameter. 125i brake shoes are small diameter. So they don't work.
The solution is one of 3 choices - I will edit here later to explain ( enlarged 125i 128i brake shoes, custom fit 130i/135i brake shoes with welded piece, e46 m3brake shoes)



BMW perf calipers is what you referred as BBK above?
If so all you need is
2x 130i Hub
2x new 125i rear bearing cuz it will be damaged on install.
Handbrake solution

OR if you want new rear rotors, it is just this:
2x 135i rear rotors
Handbrake solution

both solutions will have you bend back/ cut the rear dust shield a bit
Yes Performance BMW bbk

thanks for the info
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Yes Performance BMW bbk

thanks for the info
yeah no prob. Since you have the BMW Perf brke kit, its easiest for you to get juat 135i rear rotors and cut the dust shield
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So to use the 130i PBMW kit all I need is the 135i rotors and a handbrake solution? Will the 135i rotors work with the PBMW calipers? Are they different size to the PerfBMW ones?
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So to use the 130i PBMW kit all I need is the 135i rotors and a handbrake solution? Will the 135i rotors work with the PBMW calipers? Are they different size to the PerfBMW ones?
Yes
Just 135 rotors for your case.

The calipers are same as 135i.
Also, I have this setup without handbrake solution. To make fit I cut 2 inch lines in the brake dust sheild like a flower petals and bent it back.
I will post soon about handbrake.

For others who want to switch Hubs. Your 135i rotors will not work and need to review the OP for part numbers.
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Thanks for all the work. I had just printed the stats a month or so ago in case I lost this thread. I plan to make this mod when I need new rotors. My car has 75k miles now, still on my original brake pads but in the shop now and I plan to have them at least change pads.
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Yes Performance BMW bbk

thanks for the info


Some on the forums make 125i/128i brake shoes and weld them to 135i brake shoes in the new diamater

But below is better idea i think that uses less welding, And if you use e46 m3 handbrake shoes maybe no welding at all:
This is how to make 135i large handbrake shoes to work - see the z4 forum link
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You need to use a OE or very good OEM brake shoe from e46 m3/e39m5/e60 sedan

Other cheap OEMS will make brake shoes too skinny to touch 125i hand brake

The OE brake shoe will be shaped to look like this:


Than follow:
http://www.zpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=751080

Who made hand brakes work by doing this


Make e46 m3 brake shoes look like his ( using cutter and drill on that top corner so that they will contact 125i brake shoe metal stopper

Use 135i/130i hand brake carrier plate ( he give part number) and attach 135i hand brake to 128i.
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My mechanic (Solo Motorsports in Norcross, GA near Atlanta) worked this out for me today. Didn't sound like it quite went like this thread proposed but once he got the proper combination of parts it worked including still having an E-brake.

So now my 45 offset rear wheels will be like 55 offsets. It really would have made more sense to have done this before I rolled and trimmed the heck outta my fenders, went to a lightweight battery, removed my rear seat, ran max factory camber, etc.

I'll still keep all those mods except I'll go back to around 1.5deg rear camber. I need new tires, my current 255 PSS's were very difficult to get to somewhat fit. Now I'll just have to check everything out very closely and decide whether to risk going up to 265s, probably not.
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