Camber plates on stock susp., Will my ride height be affected?

[chris82]

Hi all, I'm going back to stock suspension but I still want a good alignment for a track weekend. If I add GC camber plates to my stock springs/struts, how will it affect the front ride height? Or will it not be affected? Anybody have pictures?

Oh shit, can a mod please move this to the suspension forum? Dackelone

Thanks

[Kgolf31]

You will ride a bit higher from the stack, so yes..

[chris82]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

You will ride a bit higher from the stack, so yes..

I've heard/read all 3 situations. You say higher, GC said the same, and I've read on the forums it could be lower. Care to explain why you say it's going to be higher? Stock suspension already has too much wheel gap.

[asbrr]

Originally Posted by chris82

I've heard/read all 3 situations. You say higher, GC said the same, and I've read on the forums it could be lower. Care to explain why you say it's going to be higher? Stock suspension already has too much wheel gap.

I'd love a definitive answer as well, the forums are full of so many different answers. Part of the problem is I've never taken the front suspension apart myself, and looking at diagrams isn't quite clear enough....

Also wondering if there is a difference between the fixed camber plates (Dinan) and adjustable in terms of affecting ride height...

[chris82]

Originally Posted by asbrr

I'd love a definitive answer as well, the forums are full of so many different answers. Part of the problem is I've never taken the front suspension apart myself, and looking at diagrams isn't quite clear enough....

Also wondering if there is a difference between the fixed camber plates (Dinan) and adjustable in terms of affecting ride height...

You'd think after all these years the question would have been answered...
I just called Ground-Control and they said it will be the same but then he mentioned something like there are 2 different spring pads with different heights? So I'm back at square one.

[Bimmer-Bob]

Originally Posted by chris82

You'd think after all these years the question would have been answered...
I just called Ground-Control and they said it will be the same but then he mentioned something like there are 2 different spring pads with different heights? So I'm back at square one.

IIRC, the Dinan camber plate fits between the stock top mount of the strut and the strut tower, so it effectively acts as a spacer between the strut and the body, which of course would (minimally) increase ride height (~1/4").

With the GC plate, I think it depends on what size spring you use. With my Öhlins coilovers, which use 65mm ID springs, the GC plates replaced the stock strut mounts, so the total stack height wasn't necessarily increased. GC also makes a version for stock-diameter springs - no idea if it replaces or adds to stock parts.

[3002 tii]

Depends on the design but the difference in stack height shouldn't be that much. Else just get m3 arms and pull out the crash pin and call it a day. You'll get a decent amount of camber that's suitable for a dual duty car.

Which track day you attending? Let's get a n52 track day going!

[wjk_glynn]

Originally Posted by Bimmer-Bob

...the Dinan camber plate fits between the stock top mount of the strut and the strut tower, so it effectively acts as a spacer between the strut and the body, which of course would (minimally) increase ride height (~1/4")

I measured them, my pair are 6.5 mm thick.

Karl.

[chris82]

Originally Posted by 3002 tii

Depends on the design but the difference in stack height shouldn't be that much. Else just get m3 arms and pull out the crash pin and call it a day. You'll get a decent amount of camber that's suitable for a dual duty car.

Which track day you attending? Let's get a n52 track day going!

I'm not sure yet but if you're going to sign up for one let me know. I went to the Schattenbaum PCA Summit Point event in April last year and it was awesome. That's definitely at the top of my list.

I've been flip flopping back and forth with the idea of going to stock due to some noise issues, but I've decided to keep the JRZs in.

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by chris82

I'm not sure yet but if you're going to sign up for one let me know. I went to the Schattenbaum PCA Summit Point event in April last year and it was awesome. That's definitely at the top of my list.

I've been flip flopping back and forth with the idea of going to stock due to some noise issues, but I've decided to keep the JRZs in.

If you keep the JRZ's stack height is even less of an issue since you really should get the car corner balanced, which will likely lead to different heights anyway. Maybe I'll see you 3/19-20 at NJMP. I'm always cautious of season openers in March since the weather can be so iffy.

[chris82]

Originally Posted by 3002 tii

If you keep the JRZ's stack height is even less of an issue since you really should get the car corner balanced, which will likely lead to different heights anyway. Maybe I'll see you 3/19-20 at NJMP. I'm always cautious of season openers in March since the weather can be so iffy.

Cool, I love NJMP. Do you do PCA or BMW CCA?

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by chris82

Cool, I love NJMP. Do you do PCA or BMW CCA?

Neither really but I'll occasionally run PCA Schattenbaum because they offer the best value for normal DE.