manzo toe arms

[joe86]

Has anybody used manzo rear toe arms? How did they like them? Any noise? Do they use rubber bushings?

[dcaron9999]

Wow - These are half the price of the Meagan Racing's...

http://www.manzousa.com/index.php/pr...ks-mounts.html

http://www.meganracing.com/product_d...=1360&catid=93

[andrey_gta]

ebay has a bunch of these, and in all photos they look like Megans. I dont know if the quality is there though.

For all we know Megans could be rebanded manzo or other ebay stuff

[Ski Killset]

Does it say for 2004 1 series and comes with "harden rubber"?

[andrey_gta]

Originally Posted by Ski Killset

Does it say for 2004 1 series and comes with "harden rubber"?

e87 came out in 2004. So 1/2 makes good right

[chris82]

From their website:

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I bolded some parts of interest.

Regardless, they are still half the price of the Megan Racing ones, and there has got to be reason for that!

[ShocknAwe]

Not necessarily. I used camber/toe arms from a company called J-Power on a previous car. They were in direct competition with SPC, and their products were of absolutely equal quality while being less than half the price.

Not saying it's the same situation here, but there is a good chance for the type of product this is, that it is every bit as good.

[andrey_gta]

Megan replicas like Manzo and others with no name can be had cheaper on Ebay and AliExpress.
Question is if its worth to deviate from Megan

Looking at the bushings i did notice a slight difference - Megans and the Orange brand on ebay have a thicker metal circle around the rubber part of the hardened rubber( or possible small ball joint just like M3 equivalents).
The cheaper replicas have a thinner band. While the Manzo actually look like it has a static rubber bushing instead of a ball joint.

[Dackelone]

andrey_gta
ShocknAwe
chris82
Ski Killset
dcaron9999
joe86
MightyMouseTech


Bring an old thread back to life...



I've gone down the suspension mod-ing rabbit hole... I am thinking of going with the M3 suspension bits front and rear. I take it I will need some new rear toe links. I was thinking about Manzo...

http://www.manzousa.com/index.php/bm...dels-only.html

Is this $125 for two or $125 for EACH toe link ?

Or is there something better that won't break the bank ?

Thanks
Dackel

[MightyMouseTech]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

andrey_gta
ShocknAwe
chris82
Ski Killset
dcaron9999
joe86
MightyMouseTech


Bring an old thread back to life...



I've gone down the suspension mod-ing rabbit hole... I am thinking of going with the M3 suspension bits front and rear. I take it I will need some new rear toe links. I was thinking about Manzo...

http://www.manzousa.com/index.php/bm...dels-only.html

Is this $125 for two or $125 for EACH toe link ?

Or is there something better that won't break the bank ?

Thanks
Dackel

I have all the M3 arms and subframe bushings. Still running the stock toe arms without issue.

In your link, it says only fits M models. If that is the case, it won't fit our cars.

[Ginger_Extract]

It's $125 for both arms. M and non-M are different lengths to account for hub differences. Excellent pieces, road and race.

[Eddie135]

https://www.hpashop.com/HP-Autosport...2-e9x-nonM.htm

I have had Rogue Engineering toe arms paired with all M3 arms and subframe bushings, great combination.

RE rear toe arms are great quality.

[drunkenup]

They're neat- pretty sure they got rid of my wheel hop. You want to locktite the nuts though, they were found loose on two separate occasions when aligning

[fast1eddy]

I have all the M3 arms also with Whiteline RSFB. Stock toe arms and I see no need to change them. Car handles brilliantly. All the slop from the rear end is gone

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

Bring an old thread back to life...



I've gone down the suspension mod-ing rabbit hole... I am thinking of going with the M3 suspension bits front and rear. I take it I will need some new rear toe links. I was thinking about Manzo...

http://www.manzousa.com/index.php/bm...dels-only.html

Is this $125 for two or $125 for EACH toe link ?

Or is there something better that won't break the bank ?

Thanks
Dackel

Hey dack.

I'd recommend a spherical toe. I'm actually getting ready to redo the rear this week. Subframe is coming out for lsd and axles, so bit the bullet and slotting aluminium RSFBs in and switching to M3 lower links and dampers. HPA sells a custom headlight level sensor bracket for the M3 link and non-M subframe.

Point here is that even with the M3 lower link, the M3 toe arm will not fit. Very doable to avoid swapping over the entire M rear end.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Hey dack.

I'd recommend a spherical toe. I'm actually getting ready to redo the rear this week. Subframe is coming out for lsd and axles, so bit the bullet and slotting aluminium RSFBs in and switching to M3 lower links and dampers. HPA sells a custom headlight level sensor bracket for the M3 link and non-M subframe.

Point here is that even with the M3 lower link, the M3 toe arm will not fit. Very doable to avoid swapping over the entire M rear end.

1M rear suspension...


I will be keeping the stock trailing arms(#11, since it's also used on the 1M/M3's) and I will also keep the 135i's rear lower control arm(#4) since I don't want to change my rear shocks(Bilsteins). Plus I don't think it will make that much of a difference keeping in mind the added costs.

I will be changing these wish bone links with 1M/M3 bits...

#17
#18
#13


Some users say an adjustable toe link is not necessary. What do you guys think? My car will be lowered just a tad with Eibach springs and Bilstein's. EIBACH BILSTEIN B12 PRO-KIT

Thoughts on any other parts I will need ?

Dackel

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

1M rear suspension...
Attachment 1936483

I will be keeping the stock trailing arms(#11, since it's also used on the 1M/M3's) and I will also keep the 135i's rear lower control arm(#4) since I don't want to change my rear shocks(Bilsteins). Plus I don't think it will make that much of a difference keeping in mind the added costs.

I will be changing these wish bone links with 1M/M3 bits...

#17
#18
#13


Some users say an adjustable toe link is not necessary. What do you guys think? My car will be lowered just a tad with Eibach springs and Bilstein's. EIBACH BILSTEIN B12 PRO-KIT

Thoughts on any other parts I will need ?

Dackel

I'm not convinced the adjustment is really necessary, but eliminating the deflection in the toe arm really helped settle my rear end. I typically only change one item at a time, made a huge difference even before the alignment.

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

I'm not convinced the adjustment is really necessary, but eliminating the deflection in the toe arm really helped settle my rear end. I typically only change one item at a time, made a huge difference even before the alignment.

So... you are saying I shouldn't purchase #13 wishbone and instead buy the adjustable Manzo links ?

Thanks.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

So... you are saying I shouldn't purchase #13 wishbone and instead buy the adjustable Manzo links ?

Thanks.

Unless I'm twisted up the #13 arm is the toe arm that will not fit without the M rear hub and subframe.

Also not sure the manzo arm actually offers reduced deflection compared to stock bushing. Megan does I believe, or there are spericals like RE and HPA among many others.

[gjm120]

If you're lowered much you want adjustable anti roll bar end links. From reviews on here, the Whiteline links are good for the front. I purchased them but haven't gotten around to installation yet. Not sure who makes a good link for the rear.

[chris_flies]

If you want some really race-y suspension bits, ECS Tuning is carrying SPL Parts suspension bits. They look amazing, but I wouldn't even know where to begin when setting them up.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-spl-parts/v-bmw-e82/

[gjm120]

Originally Posted by chris_flies

If you want some really race-y suspension bits, ECS Tuning is carrying SPL Parts suspension bits. They look amazing, but I wouldn't even know where to begin when setting them up.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-spl-parts/v-bmw-e82/

I could imagine creating a real mess of alignment by fiddling with all those adjustable components.