The TireRack Winter Product Bible

trfortin69 · 12-17-2008, 01:21 PM

with the wider tire you don't think the steering would be to heavy? What about tramlining? (not sure of spelling)

Gary@TireRack · 12-17-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trfortin

with the wider tire you don't think the steering would be to heavy? What about tramlining? (not sure of spelling)

the response on the 205 might be marginally better but not enough to make me want to get rid of the a perfectly good set of 225's. My 225's do not tramline.

trfortin69 · 12-17-2008, 03:06 PM

thanks gil, you've been a big help. I will definately be buying my summer wheels off of you.

arrutled · 12-19-2008, 08:29 AM

What do you think of nokian's hakka line of winter tires? ive been recommended those by a few people now. and why dont you carry them?

ChrisC318 · 12-20-2008, 06:57 PM

Hi Gill,

Is this a good setup?

Sport Edition KM11
and

205/50R17 Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D Blackwall

Looking to order tires fast! Just had our first snow storm and it is a bad idea trying to drive with the stock tires!!

Thanks for your help!

ChrisC318 · 12-22-2008, 12:53 PM

nevermind just placed an order for the following:
17x8 Sport Edition KM11 Bright Satin Sil Paint

215/45R17 Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60

I used the link you gave and also included your extension in my order. Let me know if you need my order#.

Thanks for the advice in this thread!

Gary@TireRack · 12-22-2008, 01:14 PM

Sorry Chris, I missed your question in this thread. I did see your order come in and it's a fine set up for the winter. You'll be very happy with the performance.

Gill

bman6074 · 12-22-2008, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisC318

nevermind just placed an order for the following:
17x8 Sport Edition KM11 Bright Satin Sil Paint

215/45R17 Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60

I used the link you gave and also included your extension in my order. Let me know if you need my order#.

Thanks for the advice in this thread!

Chris,
I have the same exact setup. Great wheel and tire. Awesome dry performance and great in the snow too.

Here are pics and video of how they perform. Driving footage is with traction control off.
Pics = http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20222
video = http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20821

Cooldaddygroove · 12-22-2008, 01:54 PM

Gill - WHat do you recommend for a set of four 18" wheels and super grippy snow tires?

Gary@TireRack · 12-22-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooldaddygroove

Gill - WHat do you recommend for a set of four 18" wheels and super grippy snow tires?

225/40/18 Blizzak LM-25's or Dunlop 3D's on whichever 18" wheel you prefer would work outstanding.:thumbup:

reo5001 · 12-22-2008, 02:24 PM

Gill I bought the 18" Dunlap 3Ds from you and had them installed yesturday on the stock 18" rims. I had it installed at a local shop and I was expecting TPMS errors but none occurrd. Are the TPMS on the stock rims working properly with the new tires?

ChrisC318 · 12-22-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bman6074

Chris,
I have the same exact setup. Great wheel and tire. Awesome dry performance and great in the snow too.

Here are pics and video of how they perform. Driving footage is with traction control off.

Thanks for the pics and vid! Couple of questions...

What is safest/best way to drive in snow? Should I turn off DSC and leave on DTC?

Also noticed the pics dont have center caps. Do the BMW center caps fit? Or did you just not use the ones that came with these rims?

Gary@TireRack · 12-22-2008, 02:27 PM

Re5001,

Yes. The kind of tire used does not affect the sensors. The sensors are there to simply measure pressure.

ChrisC318 · 12-22-2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gill@Tirerack.com

Sorry Chris, I missed your question in this thread. I did see your order come in and it's a fine set up for the winter. You'll be very happy with the performance.

Gill

no problem. I appreciate all the info you gave in this thread.

I would have rather spent $1300 on more "fun" goodies for my car but I had no choice!

reo5001 · 12-22-2008, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gill@Tirerack.com

Re5001,

Yes. The kind of tire used does not affect the sensors. The sensors are there to simply measure pressure.

Do I need to reset the TPMS since they got new tires or leave them as is?

trfortin69 · 12-22-2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisC318

Thanks for the pics and vid! Couple of questions...

What is safest/best way to drive in snow? Should I turn off DSC and leave on DTC?

Also noticed the pics dont have center caps. Do the BMW center caps fit? Or did you just not use the ones that came with these rims?

Leave all systems on (default mode), if you get stuck in snow and need to rock the car or spin the tires hit the DTC button on the center dashboard to turn off the DTC this way you'll be able to use the engine power to get you out of the snow. Oh yeah drive slowly in snow and don't put yourself in a bad situation ie. a hill or something like that, because even with snows you could get stuck. The key work is KIM Kee it moving....and you won't get stuck.

bman6074 · 12-22-2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reo5001

Do I need to reset the TPMS since they got new tires or leave them as is?

You should not need to reset the TPMS. I swapped my tires with winter setup and never reset the TPMS and no lights came on in the cluster.

Gary@TireRack · 12-22-2008, 04:41 PM

^^ same here.

robboblobbo · 12-30-2008, 09:13 AM

225/45R-17 Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22 RFTs on 17x8 Sport Edition F10 BDC Wheels. The black inside rims are perfect considering all the 135i brake dust!

ZIPNBYE · 12-30-2008, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrutled

What do you think of nokian's hakka line of winter tires? ive been recommended those by a few people now. and why dont you carry them?

They're excellent. Sadly, one of a few tire lines that Tire Rack doesn't carry -- Toyo being the other of note.

I've heard various reasons when TR doesn't carry either, usually relating to those companies' supply systems.

The Nokian Hakkapeliitta lineup of winter tires (non-studded R & RSi and studded 5 & 4) are simply amazing. The Finns do know winter tire technology.

MonacoJoe · 01-12-2009, 02:18 PM

I just put 225/40/18 dunlop 3Ds all around on the OEM 18" bmw rims. Seem to be working fine. Tire center made me pay an extra 10 bucks a tire for new "washers" etc for the TMPS...is that a rip off? Seemed sketchy but they said if i didn't replace the seals and washers they couldn't be resposible for any air leaks.

Gill...any thoughts on that?

Gary@TireRack · 01-12-2009, 04:25 PM

It's a precautionary measure. I don't think it's a rip-off, overly cautious at most.

12-17-2008, 01:21 PM	#89
trfortin69 Lieutenant 18 Rep 406 Posts Drives: 135i Convertible Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Seacost NH iTrader: (1)	with the wider tire you don't think the steering would be to heavy? What about tramlining? (not sure of spelling) __________________ Jet Black/Savvanah Beige - Premium Package, Cold Package, Ipod, Style 142 Winter Wheels w/ All season runflats, Style 264 Summer Wheels w/ Ventus V12 evo K110 225/40R- 18 Front 255/35R-18 Rear Prior Vehicles: 2002 Porsche Boxster, 2004 A-4 Ultra Sport Stage II software/injectors w/ stasis street sport suspension, 2006 e90 w/ sport, premium, cold.
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12-17-2008, 03:06 PM	#91
trfortin69 Lieutenant 18 Rep 406 Posts Drives: 135i Convertible Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Seacost NH iTrader: (1)	thanks gil, you've been a big help. I will definately be buying my summer wheels off of you. __________________ Jet Black/Savvanah Beige - Premium Package, Cold Package, Ipod, Style 142 Winter Wheels w/ All season runflats, Style 264 Summer Wheels w/ Ventus V12 evo K110 225/40R- 18 Front 255/35R-18 Rear Prior Vehicles: 2002 Porsche Boxster, 2004 A-4 Ultra Sport Stage II software/injectors w/ stasis street sport suspension, 2006 e90 w/ sport, premium, cold.
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12-19-2008, 08:29 AM	#92
arrutled Colonel 103 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	What do you think of nokian's hakka line of winter tires? ive been recommended those by a few people now. and why dont you carry them? __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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12-20-2008, 06:57 PM	#93
ChrisC318 Private 3 Rep 58 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2007 iTrader: (0)	Hi Gill, Is this a good setup? Sport Edition KM11 and 205/50R17 Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D Blackwall Looking to order tires fast! Just had our first snow storm and it is a bad idea trying to drive with the stock tires!! Thanks for your help! __________________ 135i Coupe- Manual Sparkling Graphite, Black Leatherette, High Gloss Black Trim Sports Package Comfort Access iPod/ USB Adapter Picked up 5/15/08
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12-22-2008, 12:53 PM	#94
ChrisC318 Private 3 Rep 58 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2007 iTrader: (0)	nevermind just placed an order for the following: 17x8 Sport Edition KM11 Bright Satin Sil Paint 215/45R17 Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60 I used the link you gave and also included your extension in my order. Let me know if you need my order#. Thanks for the advice in this thread! __________________ 135i Coupe- Manual Sparkling Graphite, Black Leatherette, High Gloss Black Trim Sports Package Comfort Access iPod/ USB Adapter Picked up 5/15/08
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12-22-2008, 01:14 PM	#95
Gary@TireRack Moderator 369 Rep 4,745 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	Sorry Chris, I missed your question in this thread. I did see your order come in and it's a fine set up for the winter. You'll be very happy with the performance. Gill __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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12-22-2008, 01:54 PM	#97
Cooldaddygroove First Lieutenant 12 Rep 308 Posts Drives: Join Date: Sep 2008 iTrader: (0)	Gill - WHat do you recommend for a set of four 18" wheels and super grippy snow tires?
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12-22-2008, 02:24 PM	#99
reo5001 Private First Class 5 Rep 127 Posts Drives: Join Date: Feb 2008 iTrader: (0)	Gill I bought the 18" Dunlap 3Ds from you and had them installed yesturday on the stock 18" rims. I had it installed at a local shop and I was expecting TPMS errors but none occurrd. Are the TPMS on the stock rims working properly with the new tires?
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12-22-2008, 02:27 PM	#101
Gary@TireRack Moderator 369 Rep 4,745 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	Re5001, Yes. The kind of tire used does not affect the sensors. The sensors are there to simply measure pressure. __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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12-22-2008, 04:41 PM	#106
Gary@TireRack Moderator 369 Rep 4,745 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	^^ same here. __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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12-30-2008, 09:13 AM	#107
robboblobbo Throbbing Member 0 Rep 38 Posts Drives: Join Date: Sep 2008 iTrader: (0)	Love my Winter Setup, Thanks Gill! 225/45R-17 Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22 RFTs on 17x8 Sport Edition F10 BDC Wheels. The black inside rims are perfect considering all the 135i brake dust! Attached Images __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] '08 135i Coupexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cashmere Silver Metallic • Premium Package • Cold Weather Package • Sport Package • Auto / Paddle Shifters • iDrive / Nav • Comfort Access • iPod / USB • HD Radio
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01-12-2009, 02:18 PM	#109
MonacoJoe Second Lieutenant 28 Rep 228 Posts Drives: X5M - Carbon Blk Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Manhattan iTrader: (0)	I just put 225/40/18 dunlop 3Ds all around on the OEM 18" bmw rims. Seem to be working fine. Tire center made me pay an extra 10 bucks a tire for new "washers" etc for the TMPS...is that a rip off? Seemed sketchy but they said if i didn't replace the seals and washers they couldn't be resposible for any air leaks. Gill...any thoughts on that?
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01-12-2009, 04:25 PM	#110
Gary@TireRack Moderator 369 Rep 4,745 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	It's a precautionary measure. I don't think it's a rip-off, overly cautious at most. __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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