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      12-20-2011, 07:19 PM   #89
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plus M3 brakes, M3 Competition Wheels/Tires, M3 mirrors, Lightweight flywheel, gearbox, etc... yes, it will be looking like 1M, but will cost you more than 1M + premium...

I like the kit though, IF it looks like in pictures. The 1 series is a rare car by itself, not only 1M(s)...
1M has the same flywheel, gearbox, engine internals, downpipes, etc as 2009+ N54 equipped 135i's. Same tune and extra cooling that the PPK provides too. As discussed in a few past threads. Wheels and tires most people change. So not too much is actually different, unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it).
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This isn't that big of a deal. Not every 135 owner is going to do this. You can convert nearly any car to anything you want. This isn't any different!
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Vinnie in Japan a lot of people wear mask it was weird when I was over there. Something to do with not catch other people's sickness?

I do like this kit but not sure if I have the $$$ for it haha...

ps. have a read of this (about prior design poor service I suppose?) http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...t=prior+design
I never noticed many people wearing masks when I was in Japan but that was years ago. Different story in Shanghai, China though!

If this kit is priced at 6,000 Euros I'm out! Didn't have a chance to read the entire thread yet but doesn't look good at all!!
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I'm not sure why this would attract any hate from 1M owners, the 1M is clearly a big step up from the 135i in looks. I'm fortunate enough to have seen a AW 1M and a VO 1M up close in person and the widebody looks fantastic. It makes the car look really aggressive. The biggest benefit is being able to fit much more rubber underneath the guards too.

If this comes into production I see it a great opportunity for those guys that already have a 135i but didn't buy a 1M for whatever the reason may be. My reason for getting a kit like this would be for aesthetics and permanent solution for the scraping/rubbing from my rear guards ever since I put 265's on my 19s as that was the only size available in the tyres I wanted.

It would have been nice if they made the kit unique so it wasn't a full on replica but I'm not complaining because it still looks the goods to me. If it's priced well it's definitely something I would consider. And no, I would never tell people I have a 1M even if they asked me. I've been a proud 135i owner for 3 years
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1M has the same flywheel, gearbox, engine internals, downpipes, etc as 2009+ N54 equipped 135i's. Same tune and extra cooling that the PPK provides too. As discussed in a few past threads. Wheels and tires most people change. So not too much is actually different, unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it).
hmm...interesting
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lololololol smh now every 1 is going to look like a 1m smh just like what happened to the e9x's no thanks.
because it's not LTBMW...
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      12-20-2011, 09:05 PM   #95
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hmm...interesting
Suspension-wise and track-wise the 1M is completely different, and awesome. I'm pretty much working on a full 1M upgrade, over a long time of course. Started with coilovers, adding M3 front (and eventually rear) sways, M3 front (and eventually rear) wishbones and tension rods, and of course the LSD. Front is much easier and cheaper to do than the back, but it's very involved to get a 135i up to 1M specs suspension-wise. I just meant there's not much different in terms of the actual powertrain (except the differential). The wide body and the fat wheels were the biggest challenge to overcome in getting a 135i to "equal" a 1M, but that seems solved now. Same engine with mostly the same components, same tune and cooling upgrades as the PPK.. still awesome though
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Hell yeah. I'm loving it. Now that I couldn't get a 1M. I'm totally buying a 1 and convernting it lol.
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Good luck to those modding their 135(s), you will need a lot of parts and many fun hours under the car...

http://www.bmwusanews.com/newsreleas...id=556&mid=297

The All-New BMW 1 Series M Coupe

The return of "Eigenwillig."

Woodcliff Lake, NJ – May 2, 2011… With the anticipation of enthusiasts around the world at fever pitch, BMW M GmbH unveiled the newest member of its intimate product family. For the first time, the coveted M badge has been granted to the popular BMW 1 Series in the form of the all-new BMW 1 Series M Coupe. The M badge was imparted after a two-year development process through which BMW M engineers and test drivers achieved the exceptional power delivery and the signature, near-perfect driving behavior of a BMW M car. The 2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupe will be available in limited quantities and with a limited range of options at Authorized BMW Centers starting in May 2011 with a base M.S.R.P. of $47,010.

“Eigenwillig,” a German word meaning “self-willed,” “individual,” and “determined to go its own way,” has been the proper word to describe the most unique and memorable M cars of the past three decades. With the original 1988 BMW M3 as its inspiration, the 2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupe combines the raw capabilities of a race car with the agility, versatility, and seating position of a compact BMW Coupe to create a pure Ultimate Driving Machineģ. In doing so, the 1 Series M Coupe continues the eigenwillig tradition of BMW M. With its latest two-door model, BMW M is illustrating its ability to build race car performance into a small car, capable of everyday use.

Dimensions and Construction.
The new BMW 1 Series M Coupe has been developed for near-perfect balance and a large, square footprint. It is 71 inches (1803mm) wide – 4.8 inches (122mm) wider than its 1988 M3 ancestor - yet only 1.3 inches (33mm) longer at 172.4 inches (4379mm) long. The new 1 Series M Coupe weighs in at 3,362 lbs (1,525kg), and features a 104.7-inch (2659mm) wheelbase, three inches longer than the 1988 M3. Front and rear track widths are exactly the same on the 1 Series M Coupe at 60.7 inches (1542mm) each. Compared to the 2011 BMW 135i Coupe, the 1 Series M Coupe is 0.2 inches (5mm) longer, 2.1 inches (53mm) wider, 0.5 inches (13mm) taller, and rides on the same 104.7 inch (2659mm) wheelbase. It features a track 2.8 inches (71mm) wider up front and 1.8 inches (46mm) wider in the rear, and weighs 11 lbs (5kg) less.

The new 1 Series M Coupe features a high-strength steel unibody, with unique, widened fenders and rear quarter panels to house the substantially widened track. It also features a metal roof panel which saves about 35 lbs (15kg) compared to BMW 1 Series models equipped with a moonroof. The 2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupe, constructed as one of BMW’s most performance-oriented vehicles in recent years, will not be offered with a moonroof. This weight savings - at the tallest point of the vehicle - provides a corresponding drop in the center of gravity, which contributes to improved driving dynamics. It also helps maximize head room (or helmet room, as the case may be).

Engineering a chassis which is “faster than its engine”
Providing sure-footed responsive handling for a high-performance, powerful and luxurious coupe, while keeping mass under control, presented numerous challenges for BMW M’s engineers. The result is an aluminum suspension originally conceived for the current-generation M3, and tuned specifically for this model at BMW M’s NŌ¬‹rburgring Nordschleife test center. Of course, every BMW design begins with arranging major components in a way that facilitates near-perfect front/rear weight balance (51.7/48.3).

Virtually all of the front-end components are aluminum, including the front struts, swivel bearings, central subframe and an additional thrust panel below the engine serving to maximize lateral stiffness of the entire front section.

At the rear axle, the subframe, transverse arms, track arms, and wheel hubs have been reconfigured by M for ideal kinematics, geometry and stiffness. Virtually every detail on the five-arm rear axle is made of aluminum and is new for this generation of BMW M vehicles, including the aluminum dampers.

Both the front and rear axles feature hollow anti-roll bars optimized for their function and weight. Incorporating two additional longitudinal reinforcement bars, axle kinematics are perfectly tailored to the overall street and track character of the car. The result, in terms of both stability and weight, conforms to the balanced performance concept of every BMW M vehicle.

Compound Brakes and Wheels
A suitably powerful braking system for a car with this much performance was originally developed for the current-generation BMW M3. The internally-vented, cross-drilled cast iron discs measure 14.2 inches (360mm) in diameter at the front and 13.8 inches (350mm) in the rear. Featuring large compound disc brakes and electronic anti-lock, stopping power for the 1 Series M Coupe is strong, precise and consistent. Each disc is connected to a floating aluminum hub by cast-in stainless-steel pins. This configuration reduces the thermal loads on the discs, thus increasing their performance and service life. An electrically-driven pump provides the system’s vacuum power.

Service – and safety – are enhanced thanks to an integrated wear indicator which, through a dash display, allows the driver to monitor the condition of the brake linings. Brake service – covered for four years or 50,000 miles under BMW Ultimate Service - can thus be administered when necessary without guesswork.

The 1 Series M Coupe is equipped with the M-specific, light-alloy cross-spoke wheels from the M3 Competition Package and limited-production M3 GTS. They measure 19 x 9 inches with 245/35/R19 low-profile tires at the front and 19 x 10 inches with 265/35/R19 tires at the rear, and are silver in color.

In the BMW 1 Series M Coupe, power transmission to the rear wheels also provides the ideal basis for thrilling driving dynamics due to the consistent separation of drivetrain and steering functions. The rack-and-pinion steering is fitted with the hydraulic power steering system called Servotronic, which regulates boost in relation to road speed.

Engine.
The heart of every BMW is the engine, and so an inline-6 with outstanding performance, free-revving behavior, and endless thrust propels the BMW 1 Series M Coupe. The concept is familiar: in the model history of BMW M, the high-revving inline-6 is one of the classic engine formats. In the second and third generations of BMW M3, the inline-6 became famous for combining high output, razor-sharp response, and sonorous sounds. In the BMW 1 Series M Coupe, the inline-6 engine concept is realized in its most up-to-date form.

The twin-turbocharged, all-aluminum, 3.0-liter inline-6 engine is characterized by instantaneous response to the accelerator pedal, fantastic sounds, and a free-revving spirit. The combination of twin low-mass turbochargers and BMW’s High Precision direct injection offers an output a naturally-aspirated engine would only be able to provide through more cylinders and larger displacement.

The turbocharger system developed for the engine of the new 1 Series M Coupe maintains a high output throughout the entire engine speed range. Maximum output of 335 hp (250 kW) is delivered at 5,900 rpm. Nominal peak torque is 332 lb-ft (450 Nm) from 1,500 rpm to 4,500 rpm. Redline is 7,000 rpm. The enhanced engine management system of the 1 Series M Coupe includes an electronically-controlled overboost function to briefly increase torque under full load by another 37 lb-ft (50 Nm). This temporary torque peak of 369 lb-ft gives the car a substantial increase in acceleration. The 1 Series M Coupe will complete the sprint from a standstill to 60 mph in just 4.7 seconds (0-100 kmh in 4.9 seconds). The standing quarter-mile mark comes up in 13.2 seconds. Top speed is limited electronically to 155 mph (250 kmh).

Signature sound to accompany the surge of power.
The exhaust system of the 1 Series M Coupe has been tuned by M specifically for this new model. Acoustic engineering gives the car a unique personality in all phases of operation. The M exhaust system is easily recognized by the presence of its four signature exhaust pipes.

M Drive Button.
The new 1 Series M Coupe also features the steering wheel-mounted M Drive button that made its first appearance in the 2006 M5. In the 1 Series M Coupe, the M Button activates a razor-sharp throttle response program for the sportiest driving. This means that the performance characteristics of the engine can be varied according to the driver's wishes.

6-speed Manual Transmission.
A close ratio 6-speed manual transmission is used for power transmission to the rear wheels in the BMW 1 Series M Coupe. It was specially designed to interact with high-torque engines and has been fitted for this purpose with a dry sump cooling system. An upgraded flywheel for high-torque applications is installed between the engine and transmission. The transmission is operated using a very short M gearshift lever. Final drive ratio is 3.15: 1.

Variable M differential lock, DSC with M Dynamic Mode.
The BMW 1 Series M Coupe is fitted with a variable M differential lock. This generates lock-up torque on-demand and variably, thus providing for optimum rear-wheel drive traction on all road surfaces. The variable M differential lock responds to differences in rotational speeds in the right and left rear wheel, redirecting drive torque in a fraction of a second. So where there are significant differences in friction coefficients between the right and left rear wheel, for example, optimum traction and maximum possible propulsion are ensured. The centrifuge principle of the variable M differential lock supports the dynamic qualities of rear-wheel drive both on slippery surfaces and when accelerating out of bends.

This gives the BMW 1 Series M Coupe traction benefits on slippery surfaces, snow and sand. It also supports sporty-style motoring on narrow, winding roads such as mountain passes since optimum traction and maximum drive torque are available when accelerating out of a bend. So in this model, too, the variable M differential lock proves ideal support for the driving dynamics properties of rear-wheel drive.

The Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) of the BMW 1 Series M Coupe includes such elements as the Antilock Brake System (ABS), an anti-slip control function (ASC), the brake assistant Dynamic Brake Control (DBC), a hill-hold assistant for starting off, Cornering Brake Control (CBC), a brake fade compensation function and a brake drying function. In the wet or on slippery surfaces the DSC intervenes discreetly to limit oversteer.

As an alternative to normal operating status, the driver can activate M Dynamic Mode (MDM) by means of pushing the MDM Button between the front air vents, raising the intervention thresholds of the DSC system. MDM enables slight amounts of dynamic oversteer under specific circumstances to enable optimum vehicle yaw for maximum performance. Demonstrations at the BMW Performance Center in Spartanburg, S.C. have proven MDM mode to enable the fastest-possible lapping performance while still providing the assurance and protection of Dynamic Stability Control. MDM also facilitates starting off in snow or loose surfaces by means of carefully controlled amounts of wheelspin. DSC may be fully disabled via a long-press of the MDM button (ABS remains active).

Innovative Aerodynamics: Air Curtains.
Consistency between form and function is crucial to engineers at BMW M, who seek perfect balance of various aerodynamic factors in the wind tunnel. As a result, the 1 Series M Coupe has been equipped with BMW’s latest aerodynamic innovation. Air curtains, used here for the first time in a BMW production vehicle, improve air flow around the wheel arches with the benefit of significantly reduced turbulence.

This innovative aerodynamic feature consists of openings in the outer section of the lower front fascia that route high-pressure air through ducts at each front corner. The ducts are approximately 10 x 3 centimeters wide and are designed to channel air to openings at the front of each wheel arch, where it is discharged through a very narrow opening at high speed. The escaping air stream covers the side of the front wheels like a curtain, thereby reducing aerodynamically unfavorable turbulence around the rotating wheels.

This feature has a key role to play in the development of future aerodynamic innovations. An example of the air curtain principle was first presented in the concept study BMW Vision EfficientDynamics at the International Motor Show (IAA) in Frankfurt in 2009, and the developers of the BMW 1 Series M Coupe took on the pioneering task of applying this element to a production vehicle. To do so, they utilized the unique capabilities of the new full-scale “rolling road” Aerolab wind tunnel at the BMW Group's new Aerodynamic Testing Center.

Design.
There are three exterior paint finishes to choose from for the BMW 1 Series M Coupe. In addition to Alpine White non-metallic and Black Sapphire Metallic, Valencia Orange Metallic is available exclusively for this compact high-performance sports car.

The powerfully shaped front fascia is dominated by three large air intakes which secure cooling air for the high-performance engine. The wide central air intake is covered by a honeycomb-structured grille, while the two outer intakes are completely open. This means that in every situation on the road or track, a sufficiently large quantity of cooling air is fed directly to the engine oil cooler on the right and to the supplemental coolant radiator on the left.

With the greenhouse conveying an impression of lightness, the powerfully distinctive shoulder line and the elaborately sculpted surfaces symbolize precisely controllable athleticism in profile. The wheel arches of the 2-door model bulge out especially voluminously at both the front and rear. One hallmark M feature is the chrome gill element on the front wheel arch which is particularly elongated. It bears the side turn indicator and the M brand logo, as well as forming the starting point of the character line running along the door handles to the rear. A vertical contour edge starts at the gill element which leads down to the side sill. Fine-tuning in the wind tunnel has also shaped the design of the exterior mirrors. In their basic shape they are the same as those of the BMW M3.

The powerful wheel arches also make the rear of the BMW 1 Series M Coupe seem especially broad. Horizontally arranged lines accentuate this impression. A discreet spoiler lip on the luggage compartment lid generates additional downforce on the rear axle at high speeds. The rear fascia has side openings which echo the look of the Air Curtain intakes in the front fascia. The characteristic M visual symmetry is created by two sets of chrome twin tailpipes, each positioned towards the outer edges. L-shaped rear light clusters with red glass covers create a characteristic night-time illumination. Inside these, the rear light is provided by two light banks fed by LED units.

The BMW 1 Series M Coupe features standard Xenon Adaptive headlamps. The twin circular headlights are truncated in the upper section by an LED-fed “eyebrow.” This is what creates the focused look of the 1 Series M Coupe.

Focused Interior.
The M-specific cockpit developed exclusively for the BMW 1 Series M Coupe is designed to facilitate focused, sporty driving. High-quality, dark Alcantara with orange contrast stitching covers the door panels, door pulls, instrument cluster binnacle, dash panel, and gearshift and handbrake lever boots. The driver’s attention is focuses on an M-specific instrument cluster with gray dials, classic M red pointers, and white backlighting. An M driver footrest and M entry sills round off the unique interior.

The black sport seats in standard Boston leather have orange contrasting stitching and an M logo embossed in the front of each headrest. Seat heating is available for both front seats. The orange contrast stitching is also echoed on the rear seats and on all design elements featuring Alcantara. The leather M multifunction steering wheel features the now-ubiquitous M Button for spontaneous activation of the sharpest throttle response.

The dominance of dark surfaces, including the A pillar trim and anthracite headliner reduces sun glare and promotes focus on the road. In combination with high-quality materials, carefully planned contours, and selective color accents, the interior of the BMW 1 Series M Coupe provides a perfect environment in which to pursue driving pleasure.

Safety Equipment
BMW passionately pursues a safety philosophy with three key modes: a) superior accident avoidance, b) superior crash survivability, and c) comprehensive post-crash notification. The 1 Series M Coupe features an extensive range of standard equipment which underscores BMW’s safety research culture. Standard safety features include front, pelvis-thorax and side curtain head airbags, three-point automatic seatbelts for all seats with belt force limiters and belt pretensioners at the front. Models equipped with BMW Assist feature BMW’s Enhanced Automatic Collision Notification, which alerts authorities when an airbag deployment has occurred. Furthermore, data from on-board safety systems is processed and analyzed through the proprietary URGENCY algorithm so that the vehicle may provide the BMW Assist call center with special notice when occupants are likely to have sustained severe injury.

BMW Group In America
BMW of North America, LLC has been present in the United States since 1975. Rolls-Royce Motor Cars NA, LLC began distributing vehicles in 2003. The BMW Group in the United States has grown to include marketing, sales, and financial service organizations for the BMW brand of motor vehicles, including motorcycles, the MINI brand, and the Rolls-Royce brand of Motor Cars; DesignworksUSA, a strategic design consultancy in California; a technology office in Silicon Valley and various other operations throughout the country. BMW Manufacturing Co., LLC in South Carolina is part of BMW Group’s global manufacturing network and is the exclusive manufacturing plant for all X5 and X3 Sports Activity Vehicles and X6 Sports Activity Coupes. The BMW Group sales organization is represented in the U.S. through networks of 338 BMW passenger car and BMW Sports Activity Vehicle centers, 138 BMW motorcycle retailers, 103 MINI passenger car dealers, and 30 Rolls-Royce Motor Car dealers. BMW (US) Holding Corp., the BMW Group’s sales headquarters for North America, is located in Woodcliff Lake, New Jersey.

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1M has the same flywheel, gearbox, engine internals, downpipes, etc as 2009+ N54 equipped 135i's. Same tune and extra cooling that the PPK provides too. As discussed in a few past threads. Wheels and tires most people change. So not too much is actually different, unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it).
well... it sure is...
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The N54B30TO under the hood is a revised version that originally debuted in the Z4 35is. With several internal updates (piston rings and a lighter flywheel to name two) we expect that BMW is being very conservative with the actual power output of this engine. And you’ll be happy to know it revs faster than any turbocharged BMW engine I’ve ever had the pleasure of driving. Power starts low and goes seemingly unabated until the 7000 redline. With the M button on and the throttle response sharpened even further, the car has a much more point and shoot mentality than any of the high-revving M3s.

Similarly the 1M’s manual transmission has also been revised from its donor car; the 135i. It’s been optimized for low friction and quicker, smoother shifting. It also adds a shallow pan for the dry sump system and weighs in at a surprisingly light 43 kg (95 lbs). The clutch has also been suitably beefed up to handle the extra power and torque.

The 1M’s turn-in is eager in a way that the 3,900 M3 can’t match. The feel from the re-calibrated (and very well weighted) speed sensitive hydraulically operated steering is hands-down better than that of the normal 135i. Part of that has to do with the much more direct E92 M3 derived ratio; 12.5:1 vs 16.0:1 on the 135i and 15.4:1 on the E46 M3. It all serves to make the 1M feel immediate and more tossable than any M car since the E30. But that direct ratio is also quite livable. Unlike the Z4M it’s not the kind of car that constantly demands your attention while driving down the highway in a straight line.

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Good luck to those modding their 135(s), you will need a lot of parts and man hours...
man hours? you mean labor hours? how can anyone call himself enthusiast if hiring someone to do the work? the man hours are fun hours for enthusiasts.
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People have been asking me that for months now. Do you think I am the least bit hurt when I say no? LOL, I had the quad exhaust first, remember, well maybe you don't remember.

Ever thought people could be asking owners of Alpine white 1M's "Hey! Are you HondaGoneRogue??"

+1 who really cares. who here has not owned a fake rolex or fake oakleys, we buy them because they are an affordable way to get in on the action, and save pennies for the genuine things you really care about.
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well... it sure is...

The N54B30TO under the hood is a revised version that originally debuted in the Z4 35is. With several internal updates (piston rings and a lighter flywheel to name two) we expect that BMW is being very conservative with the actual power output of this engine. And you’ll be happy to know it revs faster than any turbocharged BMW engine Iíve ever had the pleasure of driving. Power starts low and goes seemingly unabated until the 7000 redline. With the M button on and the throttle response sharpened even further, the car has a much more point and shoot mentality than any of the high-revving M3s.

Similarly the 1Mís manual transmission has also been revised from its donor car; the 135i. Itís been optimized for low friction and quicker, smoother shifting. It also adds a shallow pan for the dry sump system and weighs in at a surprisingly light 43 kg (95 lbs). The clutch has also been suitably beefed up to handle the extra power and torque.

The 1Mís turn-in is eager in a way that the 3,900 M3 canít match. The feel from the re-calibrated (and very well weighted) speed sensitive hydraulically operated steering is hands-down better than that of the normal 135i. Part of that has to do with the much more direct E92 M3 derived ratio; 12.5:1 vs 16.0:1 on the 135i and 15.4:1 on the E46 M3. It all serves to make the 1M feel immediate and more tossable than any M car since the E30. But that direct ratio is also quite livable. Unlike the Z4M itís not the kind of car that constantly demands your attention while driving down the highway in a straight line.

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I don't really see the point of wide body kit like this. If you are going through all the process of converting it to look like OEM why not just use all OEM parts and just get the quarter panel extensions and hood. If you want OEM quality go OEM. The price can't be that much different. I would imagine that the Prior kit is going to be around 8K.

And don't forget that you are still going to have to purchase a quad exhaust!!
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I don't really see the point of wide body kit like this. If you are going through all the process of converting it to look like OEM why not just use all OEM parts and just get the quarter panel extensions and hood. If you want OEM quality go OEM. The price can't be that much different. I would imagine that the Prior kit is going to be around 8K.
This is very true. If it's OEM prices I would want OEM quality too. I think I read somewhere that it's not easy to obtain 1M OEM parts anyway. I was hoping this widebody would involve some weight-savings though.
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      12-20-2011, 11:26 PM   #105
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1M has the same flywheel, gearbox, engine internals, downpipes, etc as 2009+ N54 equipped 135i's. Same tune and extra cooling that the PPK provides too. As discussed in a few past threads. Wheels and tires most people change. So not too much is actually different, unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it).
this all I will say... but it looks like I missed a few points... there is even more differences...



already discussed here...

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533082
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Suspension-wise and track-wise the 1M is completely different, and awesome. I'm pretty much working on a full 1M upgrade, over a long time of course. Started with coilovers, adding M3 front (and eventually rear) sways, M3 front (and eventually rear) wishbones and tension rods, and of course the LSD. Front is much easier and cheaper to do than the back, but it's very involved to get a 135i up to 1M specs suspension-wise. I just meant there's not much different in terms of the actual powertrain (except the differential). The wide body and the fat wheels were the biggest challenge to overcome in getting a 135i to "equal" a 1M, but that seems solved now. Same engine with mostly the same components, same tune and cooling upgrades as the PPK.. still awesome though
Are you doing the rear M3 camber link conversion?

I believe Dan from United quoted $3700 for the oem 1m kit for the 135i...If I remember quickly. I would only get the kit to run wider wheels and tires for the track.
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Are you doing the rear M3 camber link conversion?

I believe Dan from United quoted $3700 for the oem 1m kit for the 135i...If I remember quickly. I would only get the kit to run wider wheels and tires for the track.
What does this complete kit include? Seems way too steep compared to M3 bits conversion. I believe there should be identical parts.
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      12-20-2011, 11:59 PM   #108
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Cool kit, but doubt it'll be worth it. I only wish (if these really are photos of a 128 or 135 and not a 1M) if they could do this great of a job, they could have made an even more amazing looking car.



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If it looks like the pic, then I don't mind looking like a 1M. if it looks like a copy of a 1M, then I would obviously not want it.

Obviously no one here saw the 350z-Porsche-Panemara @ SEMA. I would rock that in a heartbeat. Nissan doorhandles and all.

... What is that thing???? hahaha looks insane. Slightly less fluff and puff and that would be magic.
Seriously though, is that a boxster, 350/70, or panamera that they did some massive chop work on??? haha I'm guessing 370/50. Body seems about right to fit all those components
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I am no expert on the 1er, but couldn't you just buy oem 1m parts and do this yourself with custom rear fenders?
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      12-21-2011, 03:08 AM   #110
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I really like that front lip. But even though it looks oem, it probably won't fit the 1M bumper
That hood is badass too!
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