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The M2CS reminds me a bit of the Cayman R. The Cayman R had some carbon, and small hp bump, a suspension improvement, exhaust and some other little things. It came at noticeable premium, but it was also a noticeable improvement. |
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It's been years since BMW manufactured a car that I'd lust for or salivate over. I'm not trying to be difficult; I could salivate over a cheaper BMW hot hatch with around 300 HP, RWD, tolerable EPS, and the absence of all the electronic gimmickry that has gotten into the driver's face in the last few years. But an M2? I own one, a 2018 LCI and although it is a competent car, I never look forward to driving it the way I do with my older cars. The best thing I can say is that it is relatively comfortable to be in on longer drives. There is nothing you could do to an M2 that would make it worth anything close to $80K, at least not to me. I also own a 2018 Golf R, and both cars are 6MTs. I slightly prefer the M2 to the Golf R, if comfort is the deciding factor, but for utility, the R wins hands down. In a way, I find the R to be a more honest vehicle than the M2, and it certainly is more worth what it cost than is true for the BMW. This is where we are now; a VW that's more of an "ultimate driving machine" than a much more expensive BMW.
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I respect the whole M2 range, but it never had that singular vision like the 1M did. It's like the explorer that wanted to climb a mountain and prepared for it; but got distracted by some smaller hills along the way and then climbed the mountain next to the one he wanted to climb...
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These slapped-together-parts-bin cars benefitted from involvement of the engineers, which was not diluted by the marketing people and the lawyers. In contrast, the M2, in all its iterations, is a marketing-dept driven vehicle.
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So, took the 1M out today, which unfortunately around here in Northern Virginia.....Maybe my last day with it before winter hibernation.
After driving it a solid 140 miles of back roads, I still get a ton of enjoyment and smiles out of this car. It's making me question dropping upwards of $85k on an M2cs as a stablemate for the 1M? Maybe something completely different at that price range would make more sense 🤔 |
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Had an OG M2, sold it.
Had an M2 Competition, sold it. Have a 1M, keeping it.
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the 1M was built purely out of enthusiasm----not some suits sitting around calling the shots. the original N55 M2 was literally a copycat formula of the 1M but built after way more testing, development, and decision making by BMW. It might have been developed more; but that's not necessarily a plus point.
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My LCI M2 is an OK car; in the winter, it will do :-)
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Just drive your 1M more. For $85k you can maintain and take care of it like a champion. Don't need a stablemate which will be less fun!! Winter? Buy some snow tires. You'll have more fun than you can even imagine.
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My plan is to keep the 1M and the M2 Perf Ed I currently have and get a M2CS and then decide what to keep and sell.
I'm #1 on the list at my M Dealer locally.
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The salesman, sales manager, and F&I guy will all toast your decision at the local steakhouse :-)
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If the 1M was perfect to everyone out of the box, 1M owners wouldn't be getting tunes, exhaust, suspension, etc., and these C and CS models just represent BMW's attempt to fill in some of those gaps. I personally think it would have been cool to see a 1MC with an M division engine and some other upgrades. It's certainly a slippery slope. Everyone claimed the 987.2 Cayman S was just about perfect, and then Porsche released the Cayman R, and then it was just about perfect. Porsche has been doing this for decades, and BMW is following suit. Again, I personally have no interest in the M2 or any of its variants, but if I had up to $100k to spend (I don't!!!) on something new, and I wanted a small coupe with a real backseat, the M2 series is still kind of the only game in town, so may as well get the best one! Of course, if BMW makes an M2 GTS, that would be a tougher sell, because then you're doing things like removing the backseat for a cage at an even higher price, and, if I don't get a backseat, I'd probably start thinking Porsche at those prices (which is likely why the M4 GTS doesn't sell.) |
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When the car got listed on Craig's List, I contacted the owner within 5 minutes and he held it long enough for me to fly in 2 days later. He told me that many other people, some of them local, had contacted him almost immediately after I did. Of course, these are not terribly practical cars, but they are fun to drive.
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