Adding sub to premium sound

Numb3rs · 05-27-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff1962

^^^YAH right.

Why not just add a single amplified sub if you want to add only a little. Do you really want to add all the weight of a REAL quality MDF braced box in the trunk with a HD massive sub with a monster magnet? The box, sub or subs, amp, etc will weigh 100-150# Thats alot of added weight to a car that is already on the heavy side. I have had MANY complex car systems over the last 25 years, and I love great bass, separate component speakers, xovers, etc. But the weight is too much to me. MAYBE??? I might add a small 10" sub with a very efficent design with a small box that doesn't weigh much. I just hate the idea of added weight. But this is just me.

Who are you referencing..?

BMW Power · 05-27-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by alpinedb

The premium audio system is a very weak system. There is not enough midbass and the subs sound like they're coughing out bass. The subs have no low end extension as well. After listening to it for a day I knew I had to change it. I am going with the alpine imprint piece alpine pxe-h650, steg amp, focal utopia berylium, and jl w7. I will let you guys know how everything goes with installation.

I agree with you fully aplinedb, your new sound systems sounds like its gonna be awesome.... Can you do me a favour and most prob a lot of other ppl on the forum a favour. If you change or remove the subs under the seat can you measure how deep they are. Maybe this can give us some indication of what we can replace them with if the system will allow it at all. I just want a little more base for my system, I also have the premium. It just lacks base with certain songs. Otherwise I'm really happy with it

alpinedb · 05-27-2008, 09:35 AM

oh I've decided to go with full aftermarket hu. I'm using my alpine cda 9887 from my previous set up.

sredish · 05-27-2008, 02:06 PM

I have plans for aftmkt head unit as well, a single DIN with a 4" nav screen. Plan on using it for a small-scale nav, reverse cam and playing my burnt DVD discs.... once you learn how much you can get on a dvd, you can't get by with less. The nav is off of an internal HD so it doesn't take up the disc drive and it has an add'l 24GB of space for your own music if you wish to upload to it. It also has an available Bluetooth phone add-on box.

I have a feeling that the easiest scenario will be to bypass the stock harness, run the rca's to the new amp and tie the stock spkr wires to that amp; unless there's an adapter of some sort. I have zero experience with BMW audio systems so I'm unsure of what's out there.

alpinedb · 06-05-2008, 11:41 AM

Sound system is going in next friday... can't wait... will post pics

dclee1 · 06-05-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by alpinedb

Sound system is going in next friday... can't wait... will post pics

Nice! definitely keep us posted. Do you know where you're mounting the sub, or are you just throwing it in the trunk?

sredish · 06-05-2008, 01:12 PM

nice. please let us know how your installing the head unit. are you bypassing the oem system altogether or is there a harness/module that will tie into the bmw system? also, is the oem menu/info tied into the oem unit, if so, how are you getting around that? the head unit is my biggest concern as I haven't been able to find anyone locally that knows anything about the newer bmw systems.

Mad Dragon · 06-05-2008, 06:34 PM

If you install an aftermarket head unit, it will be impossible to update the vehicle's software. The RAD2 (CCC for nav/iDrive) is the master controller for the MOST bus. If the MOST bus is down, none of the components on it will be seen by Progman. If a single module on the car is missing or not recognized, NOTHING will be updated.

morscode · 06-05-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by alpinedb

oh I've decided to go with full aftermarket hu. I'm using my alpine cda 9887 from my previous set up.

alpinedb,
Would you do us a favor and measure the mounting depth for the subs underneath the seats? I'm interested to know what I can work with down there. Much appreciated.

alpinedb · 06-13-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dclee1

Nice! definitely keep us posted. Do you know where you're mounting the sub, or are you just throwing it in the trunk?

Car is being worked on right now. I am putting the sub in the trunk, but it is going to be a complete stealth set up. I will post pics when done.

XLR8IN · 06-16-2008, 02:20 PM

I would be interested to see this. Ive read through teh post and it looks like there isnt a good way to run aftermarket sub/amp off of some of the speaker level outputs in teh 135i? I have a 1000/1 and 2x 12w6's Id like to use back there. (keeping the factory HU)

Any thoughts or did it miss that in a previous post?

morscode · 06-16-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by XLR8IN

I would be interested to see this. Ive read through teh post and it looks like there isnt a good way to run aftermarket sub/amp off of some of the speaker level outputs in teh 135i? I have a 1000/1 and 2x 12w6's Id like to use back there. (keeping the factory HU)

Any thoughts or did it miss that in a previous post?

use a jl cleansweep for exactly what you need. It;s about $200

alpinedb · 06-20-2008, 09:01 AM

My car got done yesterday with the entire system. I will post pics in a new thread later this weekend.

Jumpman · 06-20-2008, 10:31 AM

Can't wait to see these

cdub · 06-20-2008, 11:34 AM

very interested in the results!

chorn · 06-20-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rcracer_tx

Please leave the subs in a crown vic in Compton!

The last thing we need is a bunch of people with annoying subs, blearing crappy music, making the one series owners look like classless turds.

"Hey you kids get off my lawn"

dclee1 · 06-24-2008, 12:11 PM

Hey Alpine - still waiting and eager to see your pics. They're overdue!

Jumpman · 06-24-2008, 03:17 PM

alpinedb · 06-25-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dclee1

Hey Alpine - still waiting and eager to see your pics. They're overdue!

I knowwwww..... I've taken the pictures I just need to upload them... wait till you see the doors

ScottyGams · 06-25-2008, 10:09 AM

chop chop kid!

get on it! im interested!

chorn · 06-25-2008, 12:07 PM

I definately adding a sub to mine when I get it, I would love to see your setup. I just had a 10" kicker solo baric in my 330, not enough to shake any windows, but great for a nice full sound, and barely used up any trunk space at all. Im probably going to do the same in the 135. Maybe a 12 if it would fit in a standard box. I havent taken any measurements yet.

djbaiza · 06-25-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by alpinedb

I knowwwww..... I've taken the pictures I just need to upload them... wait till you see the doors

noooiiiccceeee....

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sredish Private 2 Rep 76 Posts Drives: Join Date: Apr 2008 iTrader: (0)	I have plans for aftmkt head unit as well, a single DIN with a 4" nav screen. Plan on using it for a small-scale nav, reverse cam and playing my burnt DVD discs.... once you learn how much you can get on a dvd, you can't get by with less. The nav is off of an internal HD so it doesn't take up the disc drive and it has an add'l 24GB of space for your own music if you wish to upload to it. It also has an available Bluetooth phone add-on box. I have a feeling that the easiest scenario will be to bypass the stock harness, run the rca's to the new amp and tie the stock spkr wires to that amp; unless there's an adapter of some sort. I have zero experience with BMW audio systems so I'm unsure of what's out there.
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