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      06-14-2016, 09:50 AM   #1
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My CIC retrofit...

Previously in my non-idrive 08 135i, I had a custom Android tablet.

I've decided to go a different route and do a full CIC retrofit. Here's some pictures of the process, and a description of what's needed.

Parts you'll need:

CIC stationary 8.8" display and hood - ebay, ~$175-300 (I paid $272, but received a partial refund of $150 because there were some scratches in the anti-glare coating. I subsequently polished them out with Novus plastic polish and it looks perfect now. Cost - $122)

CIC retrofit emulator - ebay, $65.12. Allows you to use voice command, navigation, and video in motion without purchasing FSC codes

iDrive controller - ebay, $98, came with the 1 series trim cover as well

iDrive center console - car-part.com, $80. Included all the bits, CCC iDrive controller, and the removable cup holder (score!). Can probably sell the CCC controller to recoupe some cost.

CIC LVDS display cable, connector, USB cable and port (for importing / map updates), and idrive connector - ebay, $90

CIC head unit - ebay, $175. I specifically looked for a '11 or newer, since they have the sirius tuner integrated into the deck. I lucked out, and got one that still has an active subscription (score!).

Dash trim parts - ECS tuning, $104.28. This was the cheapest I could find these parts:

Automatic climate control dash trim - ECS, $16.69. Part number 64116957958. This is the trim that goes around the climate control module. Because the climate control is relocated above the radio, the non-idrive trim won't work.

CIC head unit trim - ECS, $77.14. Part number 51456976846. This is the trim that goes around the CIC head unit, and extends to the bottom of the dash.

Shipping for the above two items is $10.45.

2x SMB cable extensions - Amazon, $37.08 ($14.55 each) https://amzn.com/B004SQ4X00. These are male to female SMB cables, that allow you to tap the antenna leads in the trunk and run them to the deck for Sirius/XM and GPS signal.

To be added - Combox. Just waiting on a good deal. Combox will get you bluetooth audio streaming, USB music playback, BMW apps, Connected drive, etc. Also need the bluetooth retrofit kit to install with the above.

Grand total so far - $682.34

I don't have a lot of pics, but I'll post what I have.

Template I made for cutting the hole in the dash (for the Android tablet housing I've since removed - this is the same size hole required for the CIC display):



Installing the CIC head unit requires trimming a lot of plastic from the factory cage.

Before and after:





Leftovers:



Harness I made with power, ground, can high and can low; for the CID display and idrive controller. This picks up power/ground/can at the installation point for the FSC emulator:



Back of the CIC head unit. The GPS and antenna were missing the fakra housings, which doesn't really matter. The factory fakra connectors are electrically based off SMB cables:



Test fit and power on before I received my center console:





20ft SMB cable extensions for Sirius and GPS. I ran these under the center console, and fished them through the rear carpet tunnel.



Sirius antenna connector:



Center console installed, with trim swapped over. I kept the arm rest that came with the console since it's leather, and my factory one was leatherette.



iDrive knob/controller. Menu button and illumination don't work, so I'll be ordering a new one soon.



USB port installed in the factory location in the glove box. The hole is already punched out, you just have to push it in and fish the wire to the back of the CIC unit.




More pics to follow, along with coding. Just waiting for the combox before I code. Otherwise everything works (except bluetooth and aux-in, which is probably coded to a combox that was in the CIC donor car).
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      06-14-2016, 04:18 PM   #2
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Impressive. Your write-up really simplified things, and looks factory. Well done,
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      06-22-2016, 08:50 AM   #3
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Received the trim panels for the deck and climate control.

The deck is easy - I put to screws through the metal mounting flanges into the plastic behind it, so it's not going anywhere. The trim then snaps perfectly in place.

The climate control was more difficult. With the plastic trimmed, there's no real easy way to secure it.

Then I came across this stuff mentioned in another thread (babybmw.net):



You heat it up, and it becomes a pliable silly putty like substance. When it cools, it's hard as regular plastic.

Pour some in a bowl of hot water:



It eventually clumps together and you can mold it:



I spread some on both sides of the climate control cage, where the factory tabs on the climate control unit would make contact:



I then pressed the climate control in - and the thermomorph self conforms to the factory mounting tabs:





Success! Looks perfect!
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Very clean, was debating doing a nexus 7 install or just go all out and do OEM CIC
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      07-21-2016, 06:21 PM   #5
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Very very nice. Question. I have a 08 with the CCC idrive, which parts would I not need from your list if I was going to do this? Or which extra parts would I need? Thanks a bunch man.

Very nice job! Looks perfect.
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      07-25-2016, 05:09 PM   #6
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Very very nice. Question. I have a 08 with the CCC idrive, which parts would I not need from your list if I was going to do this? Or which extra parts would I need? Thanks a bunch man.

Very nice job! Looks perfect.
If you just want to go CIC, at a minimum you'd need the CIC deck and screen. I believe you'd also need the CIC trim that goes around the deck.

You'd also need the HDS 4 pin cable for the CIC display.

The CCC idrive knob will work, but the CIC one is nicer.
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If you just want to go CIC, at a minimum you'd need the CIC deck and screen. I believe you'd also need the CIC trim that goes around the deck.

You'd also need the HDS 4 pin cable for the CIC display.

The CCC idrive knob will work, but the CIC one is nicer.
Yes, much nicer knob. Thanks. Yea going from a 09' 135 with cic to an 08' with ccc was kinda like a step into the past. Thank goodness I don't buy these cars for the electronics haha.

I like the flip up screen tho, its kinda cool. smaller, but kinda cool. So i wonder if a higher def 8" inch screen would work with the cic system. Would u happen to know the answer to that question?

I'm going to give it a try soon. Thanks for the write up. You did a very very clean job.
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Yes, much nicer knob. Thanks. Yea going from a 09' 135 with cic to an 08' with ccc was kinda like a step into the past. Thank goodness I don't buy these cars for the electronics haha.

I like the flip up screen tho, its kinda cool. smaller, but kinda cool. So i wonder if a higher def 8" inch screen would work with the cic system. Would u happen to know the answer to that question?

I'm going to give it a try soon. Thanks for the write up. You did a very very clean job.
You can't use the CCC flip up screen with a CIC deck. They have different video input formats. You have to use the 8.8" hi def screen with CIC, and the smaller shittier screen with CCC.
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You can't use the CCC flip up screen with a CIC deck. They have different video input formats. You have to use the 8.8" hi def screen with CIC, and the smaller shittier screen with CCC.
Yes, i know the inputs are different, I'm wondering if there is a way to remove the screen from the flip up unit and put in a screen that would work, hi def and the correct inputs of course. If not, its not a big deal. The bigger screen is better. Just had the idea, thought i would ask if you knew.

thanks a bunch for the responses brother.
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Yes, i know the inputs are different, I'm wondering if there is a way to remove the screen from the flip up unit and put in a screen that would work, hi def and the correct inputs of course. If not, its not a big deal. The bigger screen is better. Just had the idea, thought i would ask if you knew.

thanks a bunch for the responses brother.
I don't think you'd be able to find a raw LCD panel with the correct dimensions and same LVDS input pin schematic.
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That would be the tricky part for sure :/. Where r u located if u don't mind me asking?

Thanks again for the info broyher!
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awesome!
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str8shot, do you happen to have the BMW P/Ns for the CIC Display, CIC head unit and the iDrive controller?
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str8shot, do you happen to have the BMW P/Ns for the CIC Display, CIC head unit and the iDrive controller?
CIC display: 65829193751
CIC HU:65129199907
Controller:65829334611

i did this retrofit this last summer with combox and all works as it should. Its easy if you can read wiring diagrams and know where to connect the factory harness/plug
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Great job

wow, that's very well done. In fact, does anyone know if I can upgrade my N54 09/10 small screen to a bigger screen like the N55s (referring to the e82 coupe)?
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wow, that's very well done. In fact, does anyone know if I can upgrade my N54 09/10 small screen to a bigger screen like the N55s (referring to the e82 coupe)?
If youre referring to upgrading from CIC to NBT, yes it can be done but you will need more than just a screen. Its a radio upgrade as well. The plugs between the CIC HU and the NBT screen are not compatible.
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hello, do you have the localization of the pins conection from idrive controller to navy radio?

I read in other forums that idrive controller must be connected in jbe, but in other forums i read that need to be conected in the quadlock of the navy... Could you confirm this?

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hello, do you have the localization of the pins conection from idrive controller to navy radio?

I read in other forums that idrive controller must be connected in jbe, but in other forums i read that need to be conected in the quadlock of the navy... Could you confirm this?

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The Idrive does not necessarily has to be connected directly to a device.
It does "only" Need 12V power and CAN.
So you can connect it whereevery you find 12V and CAN.

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The Idrive does not necessarily has to be connected directly to a device.
It does "only" Need 12V power and CAN.
So you can connect it whereevery you find 12V and CAN.

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So is not necesary to connect it to the quadlock?

Another question is, that is it possibly to coding the cic bussines radio with the android radio 10,25 and make it in full screen like the cic profesional? Thank you!
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So is not necesary to connect it to the quadlock?

Another question is, that is it possibly to coding the cic bussines radio with the android radio 10,25 and make it in full screen like the cic profesional? Thank you!
Yes, you can split power and CAN also from the climate control unit or somewhere else.

No, Coding a CIC Business to broad screen is not possible, i asked a very good coder this week.

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hello, do you have the localization of the pins conection from idrive controller to navy radio?

I read in other forums that idrive controller must be connected in jbe, but in other forums i read that need to be conected in the quadlock of the navy... Could you confirm this?

Thank you!
I connected the controller pins to their proper spot in the plug behind the glovebox. This didn't require any additional cutting or splicing of the harness to the nav unit.
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