Car Delivered without a LCD Screen on the dashboard...

Trutchy · 08-23-2011, 07:32 AM

Hey all..

I got my car a month ago and i am only now finding time to post this after much fun..

I ordered my car without NAV but made BMW stipulate whether the car would still come with the screen and I-Drive. They said it would and have an email to prove it... Sounds good, i can still use the screen for my music and I-phone and not have to pay for the NAV application etc...Perfect...

Not Perfect.. the car came without a screen...

So now i have the shitty basic stereo unit with the HK speakers..

BMW dealer told me that this is the same message german gave them and its their fault.. The dealer said that they would order and fit the screen but CANNOT since its impossible to fit if the car is not ordered with it. They offered to fit the BMW aftermarket screen free but they still cant tell me what it does and if it will work with I-Phone (Music & Calls). They even said they would get me a new car but cant since there allocation is already sold out..

Does anyone out there have sufficient knowledge to know if my dealer is feeding me a load of horse shit or if it is simply impossible to fit the screen that i originally ordered.

Cheers..

ChrisBuer · 08-23-2011, 08:16 AM

Sorry to hear of your problems, but your dealer doesn't appear to be very well informed. The iDrive and the nav are all of the same thing and I'm shocked that they thought you could order a screen separately that didn't have the nav function in it. You also do not have to "pay for a nav application". Did they tell you this? There is no subscription for nav. You just buy it and that's that.

I've never heard of a BMW aftermarket screen, but after searching the web I found this:

Looks pretty basic to me and I've no idea how you control it. I would also think that there is no way of controlling your iPod through it.

I'm also absolutely sure that you cannot aftermarket fit the iDrive!

Trutchy · 08-23-2011, 08:41 AM

the only thing i can find online that looks similar to what they have offered is this..

http://www.mfestforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6041

Snertz · 08-23-2011, 08:57 AM

+1 to ChrisBuer, the screen/IDrive IS the nav, no way to get one without the other when using just factory parts.

You can have try and have the dealer retrofit the screen on, see here for what it usually takes to get it done :

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...drive+retrofit
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...drive+retrofit
http://www.bimmerretrofit.com/store/...&product_id=78

Those links are examples for the retrofit onto a E9X but it would be fairly similar for our cars.

Gtrain · 08-23-2011, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisBuer

Sorry to hear of your problems, but your dealer doesn't appear to be very well informed. The iDrive and the nav are all of the same thing and I'm shocked that they thought you could order a screen separately that didn't have the nav function in it. You also do not have to "pay for a nav application". Did they tell you this? There is no subscription for nav. You just buy it and that's that.

I've never heard of a BMW aftermarket screen, but after searching the web I found this:

Looks pretty basic to me and I've no idea how you control it. I would also think that there is no way of controlling your iPod through it.

I'm also absolutely sure that you cannot aftermarket fit the iDrive!

Where did you find that image? That's pretty cool.

tkbr0wn · 08-23-2011, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gtrain

Where did you find that image? That's pretty cool.

I see what you did there....

That would be great until August in Atlanta where I need every vent perfectly positioned at my face since the AC in the 1er's is so woefully inadequate (AND LOUD)

v1k0d3n · 08-23-2011, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trutchy

the only thing i can find online that looks similar to what they have offered is this..

http://www.mfestforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6041

That's not too bad. It could be paired up with an Apple Mac Mini like this thread. :-) http://www.macvroom.com/

foxyman · 08-23-2011, 10:14 AM

They may be referring to this:

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...oup=Navigation

JimD · 08-23-2011, 08:20 PM

I would think they are talking about the Portable Pro (voice controlled) or Portable Plus (touch controlled) system. I think they are using the Garmin 37?? these days - a top of the line Garmin. It gets wired to the car with a special cradle so it integrates with the car radio. That gives you bluetooth phone and navigation through the car speakers. Music is reduced in volume during navigation instructions or phone calls automatically. Old Garmins used to have MP3 playback capability but they won't control an ipod. You could move your music to a SD card but you'd have to find an old Portable Pro model based upon the Garmin 885t. Maybe they could find this but it still would not manage your ipod.

The appearance would also be very different from the BMW navigation. If you search old posts you can find pictures. I think the most recent is in the technical topics section for electronic changes. I wrote one a while back and put it in the DIY section. mine could be found searching on "nuvi". I didn't use the BMW system so the cost was lower but the integration is more basic. There are two mounts that will work in your car, I believe. The one I used is a metal bracket that gets screwed under the hood over the gauges and positions the nuvi to the right of the gauges. The other mount I am less familar with but would look more like the idrive. It is a plastic piece that goes where the storage compartment is on the european cars - more in the center of the dash. I think both would work but if you like the looks of the idrive the tray mount might be more to your liking.

If you really want to control your ipod, it can be done on the radio but you have to deal with one line of information if I remember right. I do not know of a "good" way to do this. I think a portable pro would be a nice addition, especially if the dealer gave it to you free. But I do not see it fixing your ipod unless you both get an older model and are OK with moving the music to a SD card. The nuvi will control a 16GB card but I think it still has a 1000 song limit. I haven't bumped into that yet (I am around 800).

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...t=Portable+Pro

Jim

pinmagic · 08-24-2011, 11:07 AM

How could your dealer not know this? Ludicrous.

TX78666 · 08-24-2011, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkbr0wn

I see what you did there....

That would be great until August in Atlanta where I need every vent perfectly positioned at my face since the AC in the 1er's is so woefully inadequate (AND LOUD)

Put it in where the useless vent to the left of the steering wheel is.

I might do that, If I can find this thing.

richb811 · 08-24-2011, 05:19 PM

Sounds like the dealer got confused. Sorry to hear about your issues.

I know the new X3 and F10 5 series actually comewith an LCD screen that you can get without ordering the navigation option which will do exactly what you described.

Ill wager your dealer thought this was the standard for all 2011 cars, however it was never an option on the E82/87/88 1 Series family.

08-23-2011, 07:32 AM	#1
Trutchy Private 21 Rep 87 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Dubai iTrader: (0)	Car Delivered without a LCD Screen on the dashboard... Hey all.. I got my car a month ago and i am only now finding time to post this after much fun.. I ordered my car without NAV but made BMW stipulate whether the car would still come with the screen and I-Drive. They said it would and have an email to prove it... Sounds good, i can still use the screen for my music and I-phone and not have to pay for the NAV application etc...Perfect... Not Perfect.. the car came without a screen... So now i have the shitty basic stereo unit with the HK speakers.. BMW dealer told me that this is the same message german gave them and its their fault.. The dealer said that they would order and fit the screen but CANNOT since its impossible to fit if the car is not ordered with it. They offered to fit the BMW aftermarket screen free but they still cant tell me what it does and if it will work with I-Phone (Music & Calls). They even said they would get me a new car but cant since there allocation is already sold out.. Does anyone out there have sufficient knowledge to know if my dealer is feeding me a load of horse shit or if it is simply impossible to fit the screen that i originally ordered. Cheers..
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08-23-2011, 08:16 AM	#2
ChrisBuer Captain 69 Rep 632 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Sorry to hear of your problems, but your dealer doesn't appear to be very well informed. The iDrive and the nav are all of the same thing and I'm shocked that they thought you could order a screen separately that didn't have the nav function in it. You also do not have to "pay for a nav application". Did they tell you this? There is no subscription for nav. You just buy it and that's that. I've never heard of a BMW aftermarket screen, but after searching the web I found this: Looks pretty basic to me and I've no idea how you control it. I would also think that there is no way of controlling your iPod through it. I'm also absolutely sure that you cannot aftermarket fit the iDrive!
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Trutchy Private 21 Rep 87 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Dubai iTrader: (0)	the only thing i can find online that looks similar to what they have offered is this.. http://www.mfestforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6041
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08-23-2011, 08:57 AM	#4
Snertz H O O N 86 Rep 694 Posts Drives: ein M! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NY iTrader: (9)	+1 to ChrisBuer, the screen/IDrive IS the nav, no way to get one without the other when using just factory parts. You can have try and have the dealer retrofit the screen on, see here for what it usually takes to get it done : http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...drive+retrofit http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...drive+retrofit http://www.bimmerretrofit.com/store/...&product_id=78 Those links are examples for the retrofit onto a E9X but it would be fairly similar for our cars. __________________ U WOT M8?
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foxyman Private 35 Rep 87 Posts Drives: M2 LCI Manual Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cape Town iTrader: (0)	They may be referring to this: http://www.bmw.com/com/en/owners/acc...oup=Navigation
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JimD Brigadier General 368 Rep 3,547 Posts Drives: 128i convertible Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lexington, SC iTrader: (0)	I would think they are talking about the Portable Pro (voice controlled) or Portable Plus (touch controlled) system. I think they are using the Garmin 37?? these days - a top of the line Garmin. It gets wired to the car with a special cradle so it integrates with the car radio. That gives you bluetooth phone and navigation through the car speakers. Music is reduced in volume during navigation instructions or phone calls automatically. Old Garmins used to have MP3 playback capability but they won't control an ipod. You could move your music to a SD card but you'd have to find an old Portable Pro model based upon the Garmin 885t. Maybe they could find this but it still would not manage your ipod. The appearance would also be very different from the BMW navigation. If you search old posts you can find pictures. I think the most recent is in the technical topics section for electronic changes. I wrote one a while back and put it in the DIY section. mine could be found searching on "nuvi". I didn't use the BMW system so the cost was lower but the integration is more basic. There are two mounts that will work in your car, I believe. The one I used is a metal bracket that gets screwed under the hood over the gauges and positions the nuvi to the right of the gauges. The other mount I am less familar with but would look more like the idrive. It is a plastic piece that goes where the storage compartment is on the european cars - more in the center of the dash. I think both would work but if you like the looks of the idrive the tray mount might be more to your liking. If you really want to control your ipod, it can be done on the radio but you have to deal with one line of information if I remember right. I do not know of a "good" way to do this. I think a portable pro would be a nice addition, especially if the dealer gave it to you free. But I do not see it fixing your ipod unless you both get an older model and are OK with moving the music to a SD card. The nuvi will control a 16GB card but I think it still has a 1000 song limit. I haven't bumped into that yet (I am around 800). http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...t=Portable+Pro Jim __________________ 128i Convertible, MT, Alpine White, Black Top, Taupe Leatherette, Walnut, Sport Ordered 5/22/09, Completed 6/4/09, At Port 6/9/09, On the Georgia Highway 6/13/09, Ship Arrived Charleston 6/24/09 at 10pm, PCD 7/21/09 Last edited by JimD; 08-23-2011 at 08:26 PM.. Reason: add link
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pinmagic The Only Sane One Here 61 Rep 1,135 Posts Drives: 135i Convertible Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Arlington, VA iTrader: (1)	How could your dealer not know this? Ludicrous. __________________ 2011 135i VERT SGM/SB/MOONLIGHT - ED - with every single friggin' option they offered.
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richb811 453 Rep 4,592 Posts Drives: 2020 G20 330i M Sport Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NJ iTrader: (21)	Sounds like the dealer got confused. Sorry to hear about your issues. I know the new X3 and F10 5 series actually comewith an LCD screen that you can get without ordering the navigation option which will do exactly what you described. Ill wager your dealer thought this was the standard for all 2011 cars, however it was never an option on the E82/87/88 1 Series family.
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