anyone have JB3?

shodanusmc · 12-04-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremyc74

If you go in for service and they pull a tampering code, then find evidence of a tune on the car, you can kiss your engine warranty goodbye. I've been there, done that. Telling customers otherwise just to secure a sale is shadey business and you need to stop.

Must be another Jeremmmy here!

shodanusmc · 12-04-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad@PSI MOTORS

I have done no such thing, and to imply I have is wrong. i told him like it is. I also tell anyone that contacts me that if they remove it before service after making sure there are no codes you should be fine. I stated my experience because that was what happened. Too many people on this board have the wrong info about this subject and over think it. Please do not put words in my mouth in the future. You need to get your facts straight in the future before accusing a sponsor of fraud or shady business. Where did I say that he would never throw a code and that the dealer would never no? Answer is I did not.

You read way too much into what I was saying, and I never implied that it could never be detected. I simply said that the BT tool will show you what codes if any and you can get rid of them. If the dealer does not see any codes they have no reason to look for a tuner on your car and void your warranty. They also have to prove that what is wrong with your car is a direct relation to the mods on your car. Yes if there is a code in there that you didn't delete and it is a tuner code they will void your warranty.

I agree, you can;t say never.

jeremyc74 · 12-04-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc

Must be another Jeremmmy here!

And why would you say that?

shodanusmc · 12-04-2009, 06:20 PM

Because I can! Now go back and read your old posts here. Pay to play, right son? remove, and hope.

shodanusmc · 12-04-2009, 06:21 PM

<<<<Originally Posted by jeremyc74
If you go in for service and they pull a tampering code, then find evidence of a tune on the car, you can kiss your engine warranty goodbye. I've been there, done that. Telling customers otherwise just to secure a sale is shadey business and you need to stop.>>>>

I can't add anything to this. Thanks Jeremmmy for clearing it up!

jeremyc74 · 12-04-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shodanusmc

Because I can! Now go back and read your old posts here. Pay to play, right son? remove, and hope.

No, remove and clear. What's so difficult about that for you to understand?

CoolToolGuy · 12-04-2009, 06:42 PM

Psst - hey shodanusmc - I think there is a money-making opportunity here.

Anger Management Clinic in Evansville, IN. I'd take a stab at it, but you're closer than me. Let me know how it turns out.

Have Fun,
Rick

jeremyc74 · 12-04-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolToolGuy

Psst - hey shodanusmc - I think there is a money-making opportunity here.

Anger Management Clinic in Evansville, IN. I'd take a stab at it, but you're closer than me. Let me know how it turns out.

Have Fun,
Rick

Seems to me that you guys are the ones all worked up and agry, calling people names and everything.

CoolToolGuy · 12-04-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremyc74

Seems to me that you guys are the ones all worked up and agry, calling people names and everything.

Agry? What is agry - some farmer term?

Have Fun,
Rick

jeremyc74 · 12-04-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CoolToolGuy

Agry? What is agry - some farmer term?

Have Fun,
Rick

You know how you can tell when you've won an argument on a forum like this?

When the best your opponent can do is call you names, pick out typos, or attempt to make fun of you based on some sort of assumptions garnered from your location.

(Hint: I'm about as far removed from a farmer as it gets.)

Thanks for that. I'm going to have some beers.

moveswiftly · 12-04-2009, 10:35 PM

DAMN!

stevetx77 · 12-09-2009, 01:01 PM

I've had both the JB+ and the JB3 1.4. JB3 has been installed over 2 months now running on map 5 and I've never thrown a code with either tune. The tune is all I have and I run 93 octane. I was really worried about codes and my warranty so I purchased the BT cable. It's worth every penny for the peace of mind. If you stick to the guidelines given by Terry and Mike on which map to run, you're less likely to throw a code. Before taking your car in for ANY type of service, I would highly recommend clearing any tuner codes and completely removing ALL of your tune/mods. Don't give the service people any fuel and you won't be under any fire. If you don't, you only have yourself to blame. Just my .02

1lvr · 12-11-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 135ARG

will any codes pop up?
my main worry is losing my warranty.

I know this isnt what you want to hear but if this IS your main worry - Stay stock, your still fast and at peace...

D335I · 12-12-2009, 04:52 PM

Does anybody know what the tuner codes are and do they show up as a regular fault or shadow code?

jeremyc74 · 12-12-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by D335I

Does anybody know what the tuner codes are and do they show up as a regular fault or shadow code?

They won't show up on normal code scanners. You need the BT scanner to see them, and it will tell you what they are. They're typically tagged as "manipulation" codes.

plasar · 12-14-2009, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 1lvr

I know this isnt what you want to hear but if this IS your main worry - Stay stock, your still fast and at peace...

Or you can pay extra money for Dinan, which will backstop BMW's warranty, is pure software (for Stage 1 & 2), and you can be completely up front with your dealer - instead of hiding your tune by clearing codes and taking out ECU hardware.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 12-14-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremyc74

They won't show up on normal code scanners. You need the BT scanner to see them, and it will tell you what they are. They're typically tagged as "manipulation" codes.

+1

If you are really worried about codes, warranty etc., and want a tune the BT Scanner is your best friend

Mike

Dlaurenz17 · 12-16-2009, 09:59 AM

So I have also been interested in either a JB+ or JB3 tune since I have had my car (august). However, I am really not great with cars so installing the thing is going to be an issue, I am so timid about screwing with the engine because I don't know enough about it to go poking around in there. Anyone know if there are specialty auto shops that can install tunes and what not? (I live in Albany ny and sorry if this sounds like a ridiculous question) Would the JB+ be a good tune for a beginner?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 12-17-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dlaurenz17

So I have also been interested in either a JB+ or JB3 tune since I have had my car (august). However, I am really not great with cars so installing the thing is going to be an issue, I am so timid about screwing with the engine because I don't know enough about it to go poking around in there. Anyone know if there are specialty auto shops that can install tunes and what not? (I live in Albany ny and sorry if this sounds like a ridiculous question) Would the JB+ be a good tune for a beginner?

I would recommend you go with the JB+ to get your feet wet if you can't decide between the two as you have 6-months to upgrade to the JB3 for full credit so no worries

Grab the JB+, enjoy it, and if you think you need more power upgrade, and if not you're set. Its a simple install so great for beginners.

You can PM or email me if you have any more questions

Mike

BroDoze · 12-18-2009, 10:06 AM

Sounds like a great deal to me.

On another note, my DCI kit and JB3 just arrived in the mail from you Mike, yesterday. So excited! Should have it goin' tonight hopefully!

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shodanusmc Captain 21 Rep 774 Posts Drives: 09 135 Vert Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago burb iTrader: (0)	<<<<Originally Posted by jeremyc74 If you go in for service and they pull a tampering code, then find evidence of a tune on the car, you can kiss your engine warranty goodbye. I've been there, done that. Telling customers otherwise just to secure a sale is shadey business and you need to stop.>>>> I can't add anything to this. Thanks Jeremmmy for clearing it up!
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stevetx77 Private 0 Rep 76 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335i E92 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Houston area...TX iTrader: (0)	I've had both the JB+ and the JB3 1.4. JB3 has been installed over 2 months now running on map 5 and I've never thrown a code with either tune. The tune is all I have and I run 93 octane. I was really worried about codes and my warranty so I purchased the BT cable. It's worth every penny for the peace of mind. If you stick to the guidelines given by Terry and Mike on which map to run, you're less likely to throw a code. Before taking your car in for ANY type of service, I would highly recommend clearing any tuner codes and completely removing ALL of your tune/mods. Don't give the service people any fuel and you won't be under any fire. If you don't, you only have yourself to blame. Just my .02
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D335I Private First Class 15 Rep 156 Posts Drives: 07, 6SPD, WHITE, RED INTR Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mid West iTrader: (0)	Does anybody know what the tuner codes are and do they show up as a regular fault or shadow code?
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Dlaurenz17 Enlisted Member 9 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 2011 335i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (1)	So I have also been interested in either a JB+ or JB3 tune since I have had my car (august). However, I am really not great with cars so installing the thing is going to be an issue, I am so timid about screwing with the engine because I don't know enough about it to go poking around in there. Anyone know if there are specialty auto shops that can install tunes and what not? (I live in Albany ny and sorry if this sounds like a ridiculous question) Would the JB+ be a good tune for a beginner?
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BroDoze Captain 282 Rep 920 Posts Drives: Stuff Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Colorado iTrader: (0)	Sounds like a great deal to me. On another note, my DCI kit and JB3 just arrived in the mail from you Mike, yesterday. So excited! Should have it goin' tonight hopefully!
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