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      10-06-2019, 04:29 PM   #23
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Hey guys, so I have 2013 STI as a daily which I have really fun driving and E92 M3 as a weekend car sitting at 28,000 miles AW manual comp pack.

I've had m3 for about 2 years, but more I drive it, more I feel how heavy M3 is. Yes, V8 growls and M3 looks great in terms of proportion and it does catch people's eyes for sure.

I used to drive 128i, so I know how fun E82 chassis is and that is why I'm contemplating whether I should sell M3 and get 1M as a weekend. All my car friends are telling to go get GT4 since 1M is really really close to 981 GT4 price now like $10,000~$20,000. What's your guys' opinion?

I can't own 3 cars atm and I kinda like driving STI as a daily, so I only have a choice of either keeping M3 or swapping M3 for 1M.
Don't do it - I owned both. 1M is terrific, but you'll miss how emotive the S65 is. I pondered dropping one in my 1M...but came to my senses re: value destruction.
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Hey guys, so I have 2013 STI as a daily which I have really fun driving and E92 M3 as a weekend car sitting at 28,000 miles AW manual comp pack.

I've had m3 for about 2 years, but more I drive it, more I feel how heavy M3 is. Yes, V8 growls and M3 looks great in terms of proportion and it does catch people's eyes for sure.

I used to drive 128i, so I know how fun E82 chassis is and that is why I'm contemplating whether I should sell M3 and get 1M as a weekend. All my car friends are telling to go get GT4 since 1M is really really close to 981 GT4 price now like $10,000~$20,000. What's your guys' opinion?

I can't own 3 cars atm and I kinda like driving STI as a daily, so I only have a choice of either keeping M3 or swapping M3 for 1M.
I understand that your familiar with the E82 platform via your prior 128i ownership. However, have you ever driven a 1M?

If not, I would strongly suggest trying to do so before anything else. Then take some time to think about it and revisit this debate.

My personal feeling is if you like the size/form factor, you going to just love it. It's honestly just the perfect size and tons of fun to drive on the street 😎
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      10-07-2019, 03:50 PM   #26
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Sold my GT4, but kept my 1M

I was fortunate enough to be able to buy both the 1M and GT4 as new cars. I still have the 1M, but I only kept the GT4 two years.

By most performance standards the GT4 is the superior car. Its steering, brakes, handling, and shift lever action are in a different league compared to the 1M’s. That said, the GT4’s engine feels “strangled” and lacks emotion compared to the same engine in a C2S, and the GT4’s 1st and 2nd gears are FAR TOO STEEP for the street. Unfortunately, 1st and 2nd are integrated into a single shaft and cannot be easily changed. As such, I simply found the GT4 to be a boring street car unless I was driving it at speeds well beyond the posted limit.

I tell people the 1M has the personality of a “puppy dog on a hard wood floor”. It’s not the most graceful or linear car, but it’s always ready to play and is a lot of fun every day in the real world. It’s also very practical with decent trunk space and a back seat.

If you frequently go to the track, the GT4 is unquestionably the better choice, but I would much rather drive the 1M on the street. Overall, I liked the GT4, but I love the 1M.
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nachob 's enthousiasm is ever infectious . Here are some facts around these presumed 'Canadian only' benefits:

The Canadian 1Ms had a couple other cool options.
1. As iDontRemember mentioned, they strippers came with bluetooth and heated seats standard which adds little weight but makes the wives happy.

From Sept '11 onwards, starting from US VIN 47600 and after, US strippers had Bluetooth as a headunit intergrated option (Sales code 7H9 VO codes 6FL and 6NN)

2. They also used the older tire circumference based tire pressure monitoring system that does not have TPMS sensors in the wheels so you can swap wheels without worrying about TPMS sensors, TPMS sensor rebuilds or TPMS sensor batteries.

Any 1M in the world that has the (US) locally manditory hardware TMPS, can have that coded out by removing the corresponding VO 2VB (and take out the TMPS rim sensors and receiver). Then the EU software version TMPS will automaticlly kick in! Not sure on the legal status of the EU TPMS version in US and or Canadian imported cars.
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I was fortunate enough to be able to buy both the 1M and GT4 as new cars. I still have the 1M, but I only kept the GT4 two years.

By most performance standards the GT4 is the superior car. Its steering, brakes, handling, and shift lever action are in a different league compared to the 1M’s. That said, the GT4’s engine feels “strangled” and lacks emotion compared to the same engine in a C2S, and the GT4’s 1st and 2nd gears are FAR TOO STEEP for the street. Unfortunately, 1st and 2nd are integrated into a single shaft and cannot be easily changed. As such, I simply found the GT4 to be a boring street car unless I was driving it at speeds well beyond the posted limit.

I tell people the 1M has the personality of a “puppy dog on a hard wood floor”. It’s not the most graceful or linear car, but it’s always ready to play and is a lot of fun every day in the real world. It’s also very practical with decent trunk space and a back seat.

If you frequently go to the track, the GT4 is unquestionably the better choice, but I would much rather drive the 1M on the street. Overall, I liked the GT4, but I love the 1M.
well said thanks for sharing. Have talked to many owners who have done the same bought great other cars and sold them and kept the 1M.

My favourite was someone who had an E46 M3 CSL and then bought a 1M and then decided the 1M was the one to keep and ditched the CSL.

the 1M is second to nobody in terms of modern cars....
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well said thanks for sharing. Have talked to many owners who have done the same bought great other cars and sold them and kept the 1M.

My favourite was someone who had an E46 M3 CSL and then bought a 1M and then decided the 1M was the one to keep and ditched the CSL.

the 1M is second to nobody in terms of modern cars....

I couldn't agree more with the above comments!

I'm lucky enough to get to drive a lot of nice cars on road trips,
Gt4, 991 Gt3, Aston V12 Vantage, Ferrari 430 scuderia and I can honestly say hand on heart that as great as those cars are I have more fun when I climb back into the 1M.
The other cars are just so capable and composed but just lack that puppy like nature of the 1M.
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      10-08-2019, 11:15 AM   #30
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nachob 's enthousiasm is ever infectious . Here are some facts around these presumed 'Canadian only' benefits:

The Canadian 1Ms had a couple other cool options.
1. As iDontRemember mentioned, they strippers came with bluetooth and heated seats standard which adds little weight but makes the wives happy.

From Sept '11 onwards, starting from US VIN 47600 and after, US strippers had Bluetooth as a headunit intergrated option (Sales code 7H9 VO codes 6FL and 6NN)

2. They also used the older tire circumference based tire pressure monitoring system that does not have TPMS sensors in the wheels so you can swap wheels without worrying about TPMS sensors, TPMS sensor rebuilds or TPMS sensor batteries.

Any 1M in the world that has the (US) locally manditory hardware TMPS, can have that coded out by removing the corresponding VO 2VB (and take out the TMPS rim sensors and receiver). Then the EU software version TMPS will automaticlly kick in! Not sure on the legal status of the EU TPMS version in US and or Canadian imported cars.
Thank you. You are too kind. : )

I forgot near the end of the run they made Bluetooth base after most 1Ms were delivered. In Canada they all came as far as I know with it as well as heated seats. I got my first one in August and at the time I didn't feel Bluetooth was that important in an m car for what I wanted and you couldn't just add Bluetooth. It was dependent on another package which I can't recall which made it a pricey add on especially if you didn't see it as important. As far as tpms i bought extra wheels and ended up buying extra tpms. I also had one fail on me and replaced it again so I found the older tpms system a cool thing if you swap wheels. Great info that you can disable it but was just convenient how it comes that way. The us system is nice but I like
The older system if you swap wheels without having to hassle with those. So yes I found those differences to be cool because i owned both versions so I appreciated them. The only thing I like more about the US version is that they extended the injector warranty on US vins and not the Canadian vins. All other recalls apply as they are safety things but not injectors. Boo. BMW. They admit injectors are lame but Canadians get screwed even though the exact same part.

I hope that helps and thanks again for the extra info.
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Another thing with the 1M is that it is almost an organism. It's like a person that has good days and bad days. Some days it just feels "fast" but not "crazy fast" and you get lulled and used to power then some days, usually on a cool morning, you push the trottle with commitment like you have done hundreds of times before and the thing takes off on you, usually in second gear, and for a few hundreds to a second you are "behind" the car....if you know what I mean.
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I tell people the 1M has the personality of a “puppy dog on a hard wood floor”. It’s not the most graceful or linear car, but it’s always ready to play and is a lot of fun every day in the real world. It’s also very practical with decent trunk space and a back seat.
Totally agree. This is a great thread.

Hey nachob, did you take this in southern Utah near the Colorado border? I think I've been here -- either that or this place has a doppelganger. https://goo.gl/maps/bSceMf7q4phPypZZA



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      10-08-2019, 10:09 PM   #32
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Totally agree. This is a great thread.

Hey nachob, did you take this in southern Utah near the Colorado border? I think I've been here -- either that or this place has a doppelganger. https://goo.gl/maps/bSceMf7q4phPypZZA

[IMG]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ji...n=w800-h513-no[/IMG]

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Yes! Crazy how you found it. That is exactly it Big Brother!.. What am I wearing now??? : )

It's in southern Utah a bit south of Arches National Park as I was heading toward Monument Valley.

On a different thought, OP, if you buy a 1M I recommend at least one road trip and I highly recommend driving through Utah....some of the most, spectacular scenery and great roads.

Here's another similar pic of a Wheel Shop in Nebraska, I guess wheels aren't that big there. : )

Also, I discovered the best Camouflage in Utah is Valencia Orange.

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      10-09-2019, 04:54 PM   #33
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Speaking as someone that had both an E92M and an E90M.... One DCT and the other 6 speed, I say yes! The only thing i miss is the sound. everything else is better.

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