Installed TC Kline Coilovers today :)

Dave Mac · 08-29-2008, 11:41 PM

I can recommend that you go with the TCK suspension over the KW V3. The V3's have hard initial compression damping and can make the car feel harsh and cause some initial turn-in understeer. The Koni's that TCK uses has a much better damping characteristics.

mikeo · 08-30-2008, 08:25 AM

And then there are the Dutch built AST monotube coilovers that are getting excellent reviews.

Dave Mac · 08-30-2008, 10:20 PM

mikeo is spot-on with the AST recommendation. I ran Ohlins Flags on my Evo and the AST are similarly valved. I almost chose the AST's but GT Worx and Ohlins made me a fantastic offer that I couldn't refuse. I'll either be on TCK Koni's or AST for my 135i.

Dave Mac

Bosco412 · 09-05-2008, 08:48 AM

Hi Charles, Great writeup! I'm going to take my 135i to TCK this weekend for a makeover. Still debating on the new shoes-Breytons or BMW Performance Wheels. TCK has the Breytons their at the shop so I'm going to take a look at it up close. I'll post a before and after pics once completed.Thanks for making my suspension decision easier-wasn't quite sure which one to do-but now I do! Can't wait!!!

TMc135 · 09-05-2008, 08:04 PM

Bosco412 - not sure if you saw my post a couple weeks back in the "track" section but I met TCK himself at our BMWCCA track event at Mid-Ohio and he had his white 1er there with the Breyton's and it looked really nice. Definitely recommend the visit and seeing them in person. BTW, the Breyton's should be lighter too I believe. Keep us posted and provide pic's when done. Attached are a few pic's of his ride with the wheels on them if you haven't seen it yet.

Justin(OKC) · 09-05-2008, 08:17 PM

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Bosco412 - not sure if you saw my post a couple weeks back in the "track" section but I met TCK himself at our BMWCCA track event at Mid-Ohio and he had his white 1er there with the Breyton's and it looked really nice. Definitely recommend the visit and seeing them in person. BTW, the Breyton's should be lighter too I believe. Keep us posted and provide pic's when done. Attached are a few pic's of his ride with the wheels on them if you haven't seen it yet.

makes me wonder if I bought the right wheels...that's sick

Bosco412 · 09-06-2008, 08:36 AM

TMc, Thanks for the info. We were debating between those Breytons and the BMW Performance Wheels. I think we will go with the Breytons! We will be leaving in about an hour to head to Santa Barbara for the makeover. Can't wait! I'll make sure to take a before and after photo and post them! Thanks again!!

Justin(OKC) · 09-06-2008, 08:59 AM

anyone know what spring rates TC is running on his car? Bosco, please post before and after pics....I can't wait to see your car with its makeover!!

larryn · 09-06-2008, 09:35 AM

TC is running at the OFest Autocross in a couple weeks. I can ask him if we do not find out by then. Still unsure which car he'll be driving, but it's likely to be the Carbon Coupe.

Bosco412 · 09-06-2008, 07:52 PM

Just got back from TCK Racing out in Santa Barbara. Got the opportunity to meet the owner, TC and Mark. What great guys! :thumbup: The shop was a class act which reflects upon the owners. Everything Charles has mentioned was spot on. We even had the honor of having lunch with them and got to do a little shop talk. As far as spring rates are concerned they are 350 in the front and 500 in the rear, using 10" springs. Below you will find the before photos. Please excuse the dirty car it hasn't been bathed yet. Tomorrow we will get it detailed and post photos of it.

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Bosco412 · 09-06-2008, 07:59 PM

These are photos from the shop and during the makeover.

Bosco412 · 09-06-2008, 08:06 PM

Here are the after photos.

scot1956 · 09-06-2008, 08:53 PM

The wheels and car look great. What size and offset did you get on the Breytons??

Justin(OKC) · 09-06-2008, 09:29 PM

cool!!! Give us your driving impressions of the setup. I'm highly considering it, but I don't want anything too harsh like my M3.

Charles1 · 09-07-2008, 12:15 AM

Still loving my TC kit... Now that the wedding is over it is time for track testing...

Have fun with your new kit.

Terp1 · 09-07-2008, 10:08 AM

I'm so jealous! Once I get my 1 I'm going with that set-up. I look forward to your input as you get used to it.

Bosco412 · 09-07-2008, 02:48 PM

Breyton GTS-R 18x8.5 ET48 18.2 lbs.

Misterkris · 09-07-2008, 03:02 PM

ooh more photos please

TMc135 · 09-07-2008, 08:54 PM

Looks incredible - great choice, I'm glad you went with them and had a chance to speak with TC and crew. Class act indeed.

I might have missed it but what rubber and sizes did you go with on those wheels? I would love to take mine 245 all around as TCK has done on his 1 but not sure of your final setup...?

Where you able to dial in any neg camber or did you even have them try? I assume you would have needed camber plates to do so but curious if any more could be achieved vs. stock if you went without the plates. Thanks and congrats!!

Justin(OKC) · 09-07-2008, 09:28 PM

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Breyton GTS-R 18x8.5 ET48 18.2 lbs.

On all 4 corners? What tire sizes and brand are you running? For some reason I was thinking there would be fitment problems with this combination.

Bosco412 · 09-08-2008, 11:33 AM

Congratulations Charles on your wedding. Wish you two the very best.

mikeo · 09-08-2008, 11:16 PM

Bosco, we need to know if you had to use spacers on the front 18x8.5 Breytons, and if so what size. Would also appreciate you posting the setup to this sticky. Thanks.

08-29-2008, 11:41 PM	#45
Dave Mac Private First Class 1 Rep 122 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 iTrader: (0)	I can recommend that you go with the TCK suspension over the KW V3. The V3's have hard initial compression damping and can make the car feel harsh and cause some initial turn-in understeer. The Koni's that TCK uses has a much better damping characteristics.
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mikeo Santa Fe Concorso 103 Rep 2,984 Posts Drives: '11 M-sport 328i, '13 X1 28i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM iTrader: (3)	And then there are the Dutch built AST monotube coilovers that are getting excellent reviews. __________________ Santa Fe Concorso - The Southwest's Premier Automotive Gathering.
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Dave Mac Private First Class 1 Rep 122 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 iTrader: (0)	mikeo is spot-on with the AST recommendation. I ran Ohlins Flags on my Evo and the AST are similarly valved. I almost chose the AST's but GT Worx and Ohlins made me a fantastic offer that I couldn't refuse. I'll either be on TCK Koni's or AST for my 135i. Dave Mac
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09-05-2008, 08:48 AM	#48
Bosco412 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 43 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 iTrader: (0)	Hi Charles, Great writeup! I'm going to take my 135i to TCK this weekend for a makeover. Still debating on the new shoes-Breytons or BMW Performance Wheels. TCK has the Breytons their at the shop so I'm going to take a look at it up close. I'll post a before and after pics once completed.Thanks for making my suspension decision easier-wasn't quite sure which one to do-but now I do! Can't wait!!!
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09-05-2008, 08:04 PM	#49
TMc135 Private First Class 19 Rep 170 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Columbus, OH iTrader: (6) Garage List 2011 BMW M3 (E90) [0.00]	Bosco412 - not sure if you saw my post a couple weeks back in the "track" section but I met TCK himself at our BMWCCA track event at Mid-Ohio and he had his white 1er there with the Breyton's and it looked really nice. Definitely recommend the visit and seeing them in person. BTW, the Breyton's should be lighter too I believe. Keep us posted and provide pic's when done. Attached are a few pic's of his ride with the wheels on them if you haven't seen it yet. Attached Images __________________ DD & Track Car: 2011 E90 M3 w/Ohlin R&T's, Vorshlag camber plates, Hotchkis swaybars and other mods. (2008 135i modded - SOLD, 2006 E90 330xi - SOLD, 1995 M3 track car - SOLD)
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09-06-2008, 08:36 AM	#51
Bosco412 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 43 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 iTrader: (0)	TMc, Thanks for the info. We were debating between those Breytons and the BMW Performance Wheels. I think we will go with the Breytons! We will be leaving in about an hour to head to Santa Barbara for the makeover. Can't wait! I'll make sure to take a before and after photo and post them! Thanks again!!
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09-06-2008, 08:59 AM	#52
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larryn Lieutenant General 2148 Rep 10,176 Posts Drives: '97 332ti, '21 X5 45e, '16 GT4 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (2)	TC is running at the OFest Autocross in a couple weeks. I can ask him if we do not find out by then. Still unsure which car he'll be driving, but it's likely to be the Carbon Coupe.
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09-06-2008, 07:52 PM	#54
Bosco412 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 43 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 iTrader: (0)	Just got back from TCK Racing out in Santa Barbara. Got the opportunity to meet the owner, TC and Mark. What great guys! :thumbup: The shop was a class act which reflects upon the owners. Everything Charles has mentioned was spot on. We even had the honor of having lunch with them and got to do a little shop talk. As far as spring rates are concerned they are 350 in the front and 500 in the rear, using 10" springs. Below you will find the before photos. Please excuse the dirty car it hasn't been bathed yet. Tomorrow we will get it detailed and post photos of it. [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Judy/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpg[/IMG] Attached Images
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Bosco412 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 43 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 iTrader: (0)	These are photos from the shop and during the makeover. Attached Images
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Bosco412 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 43 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 iTrader: (0)	Here are the after photos. Attached Images
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09-06-2008, 08:53 PM	#57
scot1956 New Member 0 Rep 14 Posts Drives: SGM 135i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	The wheels and car look great. What size and offset did you get on the Breytons??
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09-07-2008, 12:15 AM	#59
Charles1 Second Lieutenant 18 Rep 243 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Still loving my TC kit... Now that the wedding is over it is time for track testing... Have fun with your new kit.
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09-07-2008, 02:48 PM	#61
Bosco412 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 43 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 iTrader: (0)	Breyton GTS-R 18x8.5 ET48 18.2 lbs. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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TMc135 Private First Class 19 Rep 170 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Columbus, OH iTrader: (6) Garage List 2011 BMW M3 (E90) [0.00]	Looks incredible - great choice, I'm glad you went with them and had a chance to speak with TC and crew. Class act indeed. I might have missed it but what rubber and sizes did you go with on those wheels? I would love to take mine 245 all around as TCK has done on his 1 but not sure of your final setup...? Where you able to dial in any neg camber or did you even have them try? I assume you would have needed camber plates to do so but curious if any more could be achieved vs. stock if you went without the plates. Thanks and congrats!! __________________ DD & Track Car: 2011 E90 M3 w/Ohlin R&T's, Vorshlag camber plates, Hotchkis swaybars and other mods. (2008 135i modded - SOLD, 2006 E90 330xi - SOLD, 1995 M3 track car - SOLD)
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09-08-2008, 11:33 AM	#65
Bosco412 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 43 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2008 iTrader: (0)	Congratulations Charles on your wedding. Wish you two the very best. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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09-08-2008, 11:16 PM	#66
mikeo Santa Fe Concorso 103 Rep 2,984 Posts Drives: '11 M-sport 328i, '13 X1 28i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM iTrader: (3)	Bosco, we need to know if you had to use spacers on the front 18x8.5 Breytons, and if so what size. Would also appreciate you posting the setup to this sticky. Thanks. __________________ Santa Fe Concorso - The Southwest's Premier Automotive Gathering.
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