Vivid Racing, HORRIBLE

Clap135 · 10-22-2009, 06:56 PM

Don't worry guys, vivid will complain to the site owner, vivid pays the monthly bills here....this thread will disappear. Hope enough people read it.

infinitekidM2C · 10-22-2009, 07:00 PM

now it's gettin nastyyy..ha

Clap135 · 10-22-2009, 07:06 PM

Not intended to be nasty, you guys need to realize this has been going on for 3 months now. I am beyond being professional. Thx for reading, good luck with your future purchases.

BahamaBart · 10-22-2009, 07:08 PM

WOW and I was just looking at stuff last night on their website.

jtsherri · 10-22-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

Not intended to be nasty, you guys need to realize this has been going on for 3 months now. I am beyond being professional. Thx for reading, good luck with your future purchases.

Best of luck working things out, man. Seems like you've been more than level-headed with the situation and now it's time to be done with it.

Definitely would have been far more beneficial for them just to give you what you wanted in the first place, but this truly is for the greater good of everyone here. Sorry you had to deal with it!

m3bs · 10-22-2009, 08:13 PM

I had no such issues with Vivid. I have experienced occasional bottoming over very sharp bumps, but I also bottomed the stock suspension once in a while over similar bumps. I didn't check my spring rates, but I assume they are the 9/12 as advertised. For the street, I'm happy with the balance. For the track, I certainly wouldn't want to go stiffer in the front. That would only lead to more understeer.

jibaholic101 · 10-22-2009, 08:30 PM

wow! it is good to hear this!

and i see that this isnt one isolated incident, there have been a lot of problems with them. it seems to me that they should be banned from being a vendor here if they are providing such a disservice to the community!

Clap135 · 10-22-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by m3bs

I had no such issues with Vivid. I have experienced occasional bottoming over very sharp bumps, but I also bottomed the stock suspension once in a while over similar bumps. I didn't check my spring rates, but I assume they are the 9/12 as advertised. For the street, I'm happy with the balance. For the track, I certainly wouldn't want to go stiffer in the front. That would only lead to more understeer.

You are not running 9k in the front either...you were shafted by the advertising "typo"

m3bs · 10-22-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

You are not running 9k in the front either...you were shafted by the advertising "typo"

Are they marked? If so, I'll check them this weekend.

Clap135 · 10-22-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by m3bs

Are they marked? If so, I'll check them this weekend.

they are marked at the bottom of each spring. Trust me, your running 8k....
Jack up one side, take the wheel off, lower the spring pearch....white lettering. Hopefully yours didnt wear off.

I disagree with you on stiffer front springs. If it was up to me Id run 10k-11k front with softer damper settings. The suspension travel in this set up is less than stock.
So run 10k-11k, maybe like setting 8 in the front
Keep the 12k in the rear and bump the shocks to liek 10-11, car will rotate....in theory. lol

Berduderunner · 10-23-2009, 10:39 AM

Woah... I'm sorry to hear about that, Vivid was trying to get those Cross coilovers off on me a few months back for that "great price". Glad I didn't pull the trigger!!!

rcracer_tx · 10-24-2009, 06:09 PM

Interesting read... I wonder if the incorrect spring rates vs. advertised are because of cross messing up the order or if its on vivid's end.

Clap135 · 10-25-2009, 12:04 AM

cross advertised them as 8k on their site, vivid had 9k and blamed it on cross.....after the way they run their show and the HORROR stories from subi/evo forums, personally i believe cross.

ichiban · 10-25-2009, 04:10 AM

and it says a lot that they haven't even joined the convo here.

Clap135 · 10-25-2009, 08:52 AM

They responded on e90post, pretty much posted the emails from a couple of days ago that defend nothing. Emails started floating over 3 months ago

M3Newbie88 · 10-25-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ichiban

and it says a lot that they haven't even joined the convo here.

I don't think vendors can comment on posts like these.. I think its part of their agreement btw the forum and them.

FORCED AIR · 10-26-2009, 05:22 PM

Vivid is down the street from me.

Never had a single good experience with them, or heard of one. I have seen them horribly jack up simply dynoing a car.

An example of their wealth of knowledge:

Did a full S/C install on a friends car. He insisted on running a SAFC Neo tuner (prolly the most common piggyback in existance) instead of the standard tuner for the car (which I could have simply uploaded a map to). So I install it all including the SAFC and he takes it to Vivid for tuning.

Now being an SAFC they have to have tuned hundreds of cars with the same tuner. But I get a call saying they can't make it work and it is because i screwed up the install and they can't figure out why the a/f won't respond to tuning. Bull ish. I go down and ask what they have changed. The claim is nothing. Come to find that the MAF signal wires have been switched by the dyno operator. (these are the only two wires that do anything with the ecu and are responsible for the tuning.

Operator lies about it and says he didn't change anything. One of the higher ups comes out (don't remember his name) looks at it and says it is right and no they didn't change it. I show him a puddle of solder on the floor...from them doing a shit job or resoldering the wires. He claims it is on there the right way now and something i did is wrong...this is coming from the "boss."

So I switch the wires and bam...it works....well wtf do you know.

If they can screw this up that bad I can only imagine what dealing with them from across the country is like.

Almost forgot...same day...they had the pepsi RX-8 in that toured at HIN in the shop...which they built. Claimed it had 900 whp. Right....has anyone ever even heard of a 13B Renesis making over 500 hp?

Clap135 · 10-26-2009, 05:25 PM

lol at 900 hp
lol at messing up a safc. Who the hell messes up ussing that? Like you said, that is as BASIC as it gets.

I ran one back like 8 years ago. If my memory serves me right its like 5 wires. two maf, one tps, power, and ground?

Clap135 · 10-26-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LazyBmw

I don't think vendors can comment on posts like these.. I think its part of their agreement btw the forum and them.

oh yea they can, cause they did on e90post. They just have nothing to say that will defend their case.

jibaholic101 · 10-27-2009, 11:09 PM

wow, and how are these guys still in business?

1vs3 · 10-29-2009, 12:00 PM

I'm surprised to hear this Vivid is a big name shop.

adrean8j · 10-29-2009, 02:49 PM

10-22-2009, 06:56 PM	#23
Clap135 Brigadier General 102 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	Don't worry guys, vivid will complain to the site owner, vivid pays the monthly bills here....this thread will disappear. Hope enough people read it.
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10-22-2009, 07:06 PM	#25
Clap135 Brigadier General 102 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	Not intended to be nasty, you guys need to realize this has been going on for 3 months now. I am beyond being professional. Thx for reading, good luck with your future purchases.
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10-22-2009, 07:08 PM	#26
BahamaBart Lieutenant 30 Rep 586 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: in front of you iTrader: (0)	WOW and I was just looking at stuff last night on their website. __________________ 2009 135i Black on Black Options\|Leather\| Sport Package\| Premium Stereo\| Steering Assist \| V1 Engine MODS\| JB4 install \| AR DPs \| Berk Axleback \| ITG Filter \| BHS OCC \| Exterior Bling\| Kerscher splitter \| Interior Bling \| Bimmian pedals \| 3P Cars gauage \|
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10-22-2009, 08:13 PM	#28
m3bs Captain 62 Rep 657 Posts Drives: 95 S54 M3, X5, GT4, GR Corolla Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Augusta, SC iTrader: (1)	I had no such issues with Vivid. I have experienced occasional bottoming over very sharp bumps, but I also bottomed the stock suspension once in a while over similar bumps. I didn't check my spring rates, but I assume they are the 9/12 as advertised. For the street, I'm happy with the balance. For the track, I certainly wouldn't want to go stiffer in the front. That would only lead to more understeer.
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10-22-2009, 08:30 PM	#29
jibaholic101 Brigadier General 158 Rep 3,496 Posts Drives: women wild Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC iTrader: (0)	wow! it is good to hear this! and i see that this isnt one isolated incident, there have been a lot of problems with them. it seems to me that they should be banned from being a vendor here if they are providing such a disservice to the community! __________________ some italian, german, and japanese ones; and on order more of the same
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10-23-2009, 10:39 AM	#33
Berduderunner drk one 38 Rep 797 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tampa/Orlando iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 e90 335i [0.00] 2008 135i [0.00]	Woah... I'm sorry to hear about that, Vivid was trying to get those Cross coilovers off on me a few months back for that "great price". Glad I didn't pull the trigger!!! __________________ Jet Black \| Coral \| HighGlossBlack \| Steptronic \| Premium \| Sport \| Comfort \| ActiveSteering \| Navi \| HiFi \| HD \| iPod \| SAT BMS JB3 v2.0 \| BMS DCI \| Berk Tech Sport Exhaust \| UR * DPs \| CoolingMist Meth Kit w/ CMGS \| H&R OE Sport Springs \| Breyton GTS-R \| Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Specs \| GP Thunder 8000K Low Beams/Angel Eyes/Cornering Lights \| LED Interior Light Kit \| Window Tint \| Smoked Tail Lights \| Smoked License Plate Cover
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10-24-2009, 06:09 PM	#34
rcracer_tx Banned 55 Rep 2,013 Posts Drives: BSM 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	Interesting read... I wonder if the incorrect spring rates vs. advertised are because of cross messing up the order or if its on vivid's end. Last edited by rcracer_tx; 10-25-2009 at 10:31 AM..
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10-25-2009, 12:04 AM	#35
Clap135 Brigadier General 102 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	cross advertised them as 8k on their site, vivid had 9k and blamed it on cross.....after the way they run their show and the HORROR stories from subi/evo forums, personally i believe cross.
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10-25-2009, 04:10 AM	#36
ichiban Colonel 94 Rep 2,012 Posts Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (2)	and it says a lot that they haven't even joined the convo here.
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10-25-2009, 08:52 AM	#37
Clap135 Brigadier General 102 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	They responded on e90post, pretty much posted the emails from a couple of days ago that defend nothing. Emails started floating over 3 months ago
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10-26-2009, 05:22 PM	#39
FORCED AIR Got Boost? 7 Rep 234 Posts Drives: 2010 135i, Msport Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Desert iTrader: (1)	Vivid is down the street from me. Never had a single good experience with them, or heard of one. I have seen them horribly jack up simply dynoing a car. An example of their wealth of knowledge: Did a full S/C install on a friends car. He insisted on running a SAFC Neo tuner (prolly the most common piggyback in existance) instead of the standard tuner for the car (which I could have simply uploaded a map to). So I install it all including the SAFC and he takes it to Vivid for tuning. Now being an SAFC they have to have tuned hundreds of cars with the same tuner. But I get a call saying they can't make it work and it is because i screwed up the install and they can't figure out why the a/f won't respond to tuning. Bull ish. I go down and ask what they have changed. The claim is nothing. Come to find that the MAF signal wires have been switched by the dyno operator. (these are the only two wires that do anything with the ecu and are responsible for the tuning. Operator lies about it and says he didn't change anything. One of the higher ups comes out (don't remember his name) looks at it and says it is right and no they didn't change it. I show him a puddle of solder on the floor...from them doing a shit job or resoldering the wires. He claims it is on there the right way now and something i did is wrong...this is coming from the "boss." So I switch the wires and bam...it works....well wtf do you know. If they can screw this up that bad I can only imagine what dealing with them from across the country is like. Almost forgot...same day...they had the pepsi RX-8 in that toured at HIN in the shop...which they built. Claimed it had 900 whp. Right....has anyone ever even heard of a 13B Renesis making over 500 hp? __________________ - - My Car Domain - - 2010 BMW 135i AT, AW, ///M Sport JB4\|BMS DCI\|MS 3" cattless DPs\|Golf Tee\|33% Tint\|///M Pedals
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10-26-2009, 05:25 PM	#40
Clap135 Brigadier General 102 Rep 3,460 Posts Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House iTrader: (1)	lol at 900 hp lol at messing up a safc. Who the hell messes up ussing that? Like you said, that is as BASIC as it gets. I ran one back like 8 years ago. If my memory serves me right its like 5 wires. two maf, one tps, power, and ground?
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10-27-2009, 11:09 PM	#42
jibaholic101 Brigadier General 158 Rep 3,496 Posts Drives: women wild Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC iTrader: (0)	wow, and how are these guys still in business? __________________ some italian, german, and japanese ones; and on order more of the same
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10-29-2009, 12:00 PM	#43
1vs3 1er 0 Rep 16 Posts Drives: E82 135i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (0)	I'm surprised to hear this Vivid is a big name shop.
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