Are you disappointed with the 1M now that it's released?

MrRoboto · 12-09-2010, 07:51 PM

- Yes, not as good as I had hoped.
- No, lives up to my expectations.
- Ask me after its been properly tested.

PyratOne · 12-09-2010, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

1. Yes
2. No

Nope!
Car is a beauty.

As for those who say "this is not an M". Stop. Just stop. It may not be the M you want, or expected, or hoped for. But the fact is, it was developed, engineered and tested by M. It IS AN M, people.

Robert · 12-09-2010, 07:58 PM

Nope, it has exceeded my expectations. Good job bmw

1M Fan · 12-09-2010, 08:53 PM

Looks great. I'll take one in orange.

marvenmassey · 12-09-2010, 09:30 PM

Although it's not "epic" fail I would rather get a M3..just my .02$

MikesBMW · 12-09-2010, 09:50 PM

the car is sick, its a true 1M, its not supposed to be an M3 or M5 people

49ER ROLL · 12-10-2010, 12:23 AM

f yeah! love it! more sex by bmw.

as7920 · 12-10-2010, 01:49 AM

I voted yes purely because my expectations were increased because of the rumours, hints at spec from forums (CF roof, CSL trunk lid, hood bulge etc).

However I think the car is stunning to look at as it is.

I am also very slightly disappointed by the power of the engine however I have every faith that 340bhp is just a number and the way the car delivers that power and handles it will far outway those doubts.

I just hope it doesn't work out too expensive.

Future M1 owner · 12-10-2010, 05:14 AM

Disappointed now that the 1M is released? No.
Because my disappointed with some key specs came months ago. Many at that time said 'wait for the final specs".

The full reveal hasn't come with any exciting new, previously unknown or unanticipated details or specs.

JimD · 12-10-2010, 07:05 AM

I voted to wait for the reviews but I am not surprised but a little disappointed. Logic says the 1M has to be a parts bin car. The volume BMW can reasonably expect to sell would not justify a bunch of engineering. So you use the is engine (I hoped for at least a token bump up in power), restyle it some, and put what appears to be a better suspension under it. The rear end is clearly that of the DCT M3. Front is presumably also from the M3. Those are good parts.

I really do not care for a fake brake vent on the front fender. That is the worst thing I see in the styling. It looks like the back vent might be functional - it is at least as not obviously fake - but a front vent would be a lot more useful (on the track). Otherwise the styling looks more muscular and appropriate for a M car.

I kind of expected a parts bin car but I was hoping for a little more. Now we need to see if the sum is greater than, equal to, or less than the parts.

Jim

Drillslinger · 12-10-2010, 07:16 AM

Right now that only thing that could disappoint me is if the 1M is not offered through BMW Military Sales.

BMWDAD · 12-10-2010, 07:27 AM

Price still seems holding in the mid forties.

Only 1000 units for the USA.

MrRoboto · 12-10-2010, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PKL

It is a 135is!!!! This is a freakin fact!!!

You better get your facts straight.

BrokenVert · 12-10-2010, 09:07 AM

Not a chance...I come off my lease in August and I might just end up in one of these.

washy · 12-10-2010, 09:23 AM

I am disappointed as my 135i cabrio got totalled on Tuesday so I need a car now rather than May. To add insult to injury my dealer has just e mailed me all of the details...

shawshank772 · 12-10-2010, 09:43 AM

Not dissapointed but not really thrilled. I do understand that this is a out of the bin parts car. Which isnt a terrible thing. But like I said, I like the fact that the M3 is engineered to be the M3. Not simply taking parts off of other cars here and there. If this thrilled me I would have switched my order from an M3 to an 1M. And dont worry Drillslinger, you will just have to get the military M3 purchase. Its probably a better deal anyway.

escobar929 · 12-10-2010, 09:51 AM

i love it, hopefully i am able to make the switch

Sugarphreak · 12-10-2010, 10:11 AM

I agree with some of the other statements made, it should have been called the 135is... speaking of which I noticed the 335is is coming out with the same engine as the 1M.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MB135i

its a true 1M, its not supposed to be an M3 or M5 people

What does that even mean

SlicktopTTZ · 12-10-2010, 10:46 AM

Ok, I've seen TwinPower (twin-scroll single) in the catalog, and twin turbo in the press release.

Which is it really? If it is a single, I hope it has higher flow capacity than the N55 turbo.

BrokenVert · 12-10-2010, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sugarphreak

I agree with some of the other statements made, it should have been called the 135is... speaking of which I noticed the 335is is coming out with the same engine as the 1M.

Please go away with this tired and stupid argument

Sugarphreak · 12-10-2010, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

Please go away with this tired and stupid argument

Actually it is the first time I have ever made mention of it, this is the "are you disappointed thread" is it not?

I could see your post being valid in one of the other threads; however being this thread was created for people to express criticism and disappointment (not by me I might add), maybe you should be more open to the topic.

Besides... it is just a mild criticism on the name, just saying they didn't call the 335is the 3M despite the fact it seems to have the same engine tune and features.

BrokenVert · 12-10-2010, 11:49 AM

It may be the first time that you've mentioned it. But it a teed and invalid argument. I'm not going to say why but disappointment has to be tangeble. Saying a car developed by M GmHb is not an M and called a 135is is an intangible argument and quite frankly is dumb. Say why you are disappointed ^in it.

Is it the LSD? The widebody?

It's proberby the engine. Hense the is comment but that isn't a valid point ecause an M is more than the sum of it's parts. The N54 is a good engine, and you should actually say what your beef is with it. I don't like the torque drop after 6k...that is a valid disappointment.

It's like saying George Bush wasn't your president because you didn't agree with his policies. The fact is he was your president just as the 1M is an M car

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sugarphreak

Actually it is the first time I have ever made mention of it, this is the "are you disappointed thread" is it not?

I could see your post being valid in one of the other threads; however being this thread was created for people to express criticism and disappointment (not by me I might add), maybe you should be more open to the topic.

Besides... it is just a mild criticism on the name, just saying they didn't call the 335is the 3M despite the fact it seems to have the same engine tune and features.

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12-09-2010, 07:51 PM	#1
MrRoboto Brigadier General 1846 Rep 4,836 Posts Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	Are you disappointed with the 1M now that it's released? - Yes, not as good as I had hoped. - No, lives up to my expectations. - Ask me after its been properly tested.
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12-09-2010, 07:58 PM	#3
Robert Major General 417 Rep 6,968 Posts Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal iTrader: (1)	Nope, it has exceeded my expectations. Good job bmw __________________ - There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint
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12-09-2010, 08:53 PM	#4
1M Fan SMSgt 11 Rep 239 Posts Drives: AW 1M Coupe Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: USA, TN iTrader: (0) Garage List 1012 F150 [0.00] 1971 Chevrolet Nova [0.00] 2011 1M [0.00]	Looks great. I'll take one in orange.
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12-09-2010, 09:30 PM	#5
marvenmassey Private First Class 12 Rep 180 Posts Drives: '2011 AW CR DCT 135 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oakville iTrader: (0)	Although it's not "epic" fail I would rather get a M3..just my .02$
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12-09-2010, 09:50 PM	#6
MikesBMW Banned 318 Rep 1,410 Posts Drives: X3 M40i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ohio iTrader: (1) Garage List 2019 BMW X3 M40i [0.00] 2017 BMW X1 [0.00]	the car is sick, its a true 1M, its not supposed to be an M3 or M5 people
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12-10-2010, 12:23 AM	#7
49ER ROLL ///Mmm 147 Rep 3,059 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 E92 SG Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Peninsula Bay Area iTrader: (0)	f yeah! love it! more sex by bmw.
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12-10-2010, 01:49 AM	#8
as7920 Colonel 597 Rep 2,375 Posts Drives: 2023 SG/FR M4 xDrive Competiti Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I voted yes purely because my expectations were increased because of the rumours, hints at spec from forums (CF roof, CSL trunk lid, hood bulge etc). However I think the car is stunning to look at as it is. I am also very slightly disappointed by the power of the engine however I have every faith that 340bhp is just a number and the way the car delivers that power and handles it will far outway those doubts. I just hope it doesn't work out too expensive.
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12-10-2010, 05:14 AM	#9
Future M1 owner Private First Class 1 Rep 126 Posts Drives: No BMW atm Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: South America iTrader: (0)	Disappointed now that the 1M is released? No. Because my disappointed with some key specs came months ago. Many at that time said 'wait for the final specs". The full reveal hasn't come with any exciting new, previously unknown or unanticipated details or specs.
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12-10-2010, 07:05 AM	#10
JimD Brigadier General 368 Rep 3,547 Posts Drives: 128i convertible Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lexington, SC iTrader: (0)	I voted to wait for the reviews but I am not surprised but a little disappointed. Logic says the 1M has to be a parts bin car. The volume BMW can reasonably expect to sell would not justify a bunch of engineering. So you use the is engine (I hoped for at least a token bump up in power), restyle it some, and put what appears to be a better suspension under it. The rear end is clearly that of the DCT M3. Front is presumably also from the M3. Those are good parts. I really do not care for a fake brake vent on the front fender. That is the worst thing I see in the styling. It looks like the back vent might be functional - it is at least as not obviously fake - but a front vent would be a lot more useful (on the track). Otherwise the styling looks more muscular and appropriate for a M car. I kind of expected a parts bin car but I was hoping for a little more. Now we need to see if the sum is greater than, equal to, or less than the parts. Jim __________________ 128i Convertible, MT, Alpine White, Black Top, Taupe Leatherette, Walnut, Sport Ordered 5/22/09, Completed 6/4/09, At Port 6/9/09, On the Georgia Highway 6/13/09, Ship Arrived Charleston 6/24/09 at 10pm, PCD 7/21/09
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12-10-2010, 07:16 AM	#11
Drillslinger Captain 22 Rep 908 Posts Drives: BSM 1M / R53 / E91 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: No. VA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 Series M ... [9.00] 2006 MINI Cooper S [9.60] 2010 328i Wagon [9.60]	Right now that only thing that could disappoint me is if the 1M is not offered through BMW Military Sales. __________________ *Vorsprung durch Gas Geben!!* 172 of 740
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12-10-2010, 07:27 AM	#12
BMWDAD Captain 96 Rep 755 Posts Drives: 2017 Porsche Macan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Richmond, Va. iTrader: (0)	Price still seems holding in the mid forties. Only 1000 units for the USA.
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12-10-2010, 09:07 AM	#14
BrokenVert Resident Kerbalnaut 477 Rep 10,703 Posts Drives: Topless Brute/Hybrid Boogaloo Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fahrvergnügen/NY iTrader: (0)	Not a chance...I come off my lease in August and I might just end up in one of these. __________________
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12-10-2010, 09:23 AM	#15
washy Captain 225 Rep 752 Posts Drives: M2c/S1000RR Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I am disappointed as my 135i cabrio got totalled on Tuesday so I need a car now rather than May. To add insult to injury my dealer has just e mailed me all of the details...
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12-10-2010, 09:43 AM	#16
shawshank772 Major 120 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: 08 135i and 16 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (1)	Not dissapointed but not really thrilled. I do understand that this is a out of the bin parts car. Which isnt a terrible thing. But like I said, I like the fact that the M3 is engineered to be the M3. Not simply taking parts off of other cars here and there. If this thrilled me I would have switched my order from an M3 to an 1M. And dont worry Drillslinger, you will just have to get the military M3 purchase. Its probably a better deal anyway.
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12-10-2010, 09:51 AM	#17
escobar929 Brigadier General 154 Rep 4,528 Posts Drives: M2 CS Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Hollywood, FL iTrader: (14) Garage List 2020 M2 CS [10.00] 2020 M240i [0.00]	i love it, hopefully i am able to make the switch
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12-10-2010, 10:46 AM	#19
SlicktopTTZ Captain 11 Rep 685 Posts Drives: 91 300ZX Twin-Turbo, 2010 135i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas iTrader: (0)	Ok, I've seen TwinPower (twin-scroll single) in the catalog, and twin turbo in the press release. Which is it really? If it is a single, I hope it has higher flow capacity than the N55 turbo.
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