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      04-21-2010, 06:16 PM   #111
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      04-21-2010, 06:28 PM   #112
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[snip]To the people talking a M would have this, and an iS would have that.... You have no idea the concept of test mules I take it?

Test mules are just that, test for components, not a whole package. For all we know, it is a 1 series new body on a chasis designed for a new BMW go-cart... who cares if it has a damn sun roof, the whole chasis will be gone when they go to market with the go cart dude...

Speculation is pointless, face facts, you DO NOT KNOW, WE WILL NOT KNOW what the hell it is untill they unveil it, plain and simple. But, I degress, carry on pointless badgering about what it is, what it isnt, and your prefered gearbox. Im sure it will make a diference in the end, becasue BMW is going to make it exactly to your one and only specific wants and desires.[/snip]
You have never been on an internet car forum I take it. Guess what, outside of the forums for current production models, these speculation forums exist for guess what? SPECULATION! Surprise!

Well except for the fact that this mule is a MT.
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      04-21-2010, 06:31 PM   #113
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No, you guessed it, I have NEVER been on a car forum b4, ever...(u must be pshycic) Aside from that, the point of that post, still valid.
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      04-21-2010, 07:06 PM   #114
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So by your logic, we don't really know if the car has a gas powered engine since we haven't seen a pic of it.

Get real, it's obvious it's a stick from the first minute of the clip.
Notice, you said "so by your logic, we don't really know if the car has a gas powered engine since we haven't seen a pic of it".

I kept the topic on the transmission noting that DCT transmission can do what I observed in the video, including "rolling backwards".

But if you want to move the topic to the engine, my answer to your assumption would be, Possibly, but not likely and no evidence to lead me to believe that the test mule does not have a gas powered engine.

If I were to say NO, the test mule does not have a gas powered engine, that would be an irrational unassumption as I have no evidence to back up a "sure" answer.

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      04-21-2010, 07:31 PM   #115
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The DCT can stall and then give it too much gas upon restarting?
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      04-21-2010, 07:59 PM   #116
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Does anyone know how long it would take for this thing to go into production from this testing stage?
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      04-21-2010, 08:28 PM   #117
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That's not the point. The point is personal enjoyment and interaction with the vehicle. Porsche still offers manual. So does Audi. Only reason they would stop is if it's no longer profitable. Ferrari is a small niche producer, it may be cost inefficient to maintain both drive train. Why is arithmetics still taught in k-12 when there's calculator.
Its just a guess but I'm fairly sure (the majority of) Ferrari owners are more centered around having the fastest car in the world and latest technology linked to F1, etc. But, as we know, they are safe in the knowledge that on public roads, they dont need to prove themselves!

I totally agree with the personal enjoyment aspect along with everyone I know (unless they are unable to drive MT). My mum and dad now 60ish, still drive manuals.
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      04-21-2010, 08:32 PM   #118
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Does anyone know how long it would take for this thing to go into production from this testing stage?
Spring 2011.
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      04-21-2010, 08:38 PM   #119
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Come on guys, the German exhausts sound like crap. They have to be TUV compliant, which is english for "too damn quiet."

The American aftermarket exhausts sound much, much better than anything you will hear or see in Germany (or a German video).

The american version of the car is going to sound much nicer than either of these videos.

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Doesn't that sound stock 135i with performance exhaust => 0:45


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      04-21-2010, 08:52 PM   #120
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Inline 6....you can hear that the E92 M3 spent the day following this car since you can hear it.
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      04-21-2010, 09:20 PM   #121
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Now that sounds awsome. It now will take the M3 forsure
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      04-21-2010, 09:24 PM   #122
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Spring 2011.
Holy crap. I was thinking like a year or two from now.
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      04-21-2010, 09:31 PM   #123
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I love the M3/M1 tandem at the end .. its like Batman and Robin


The sound of the M3 exhaust is just awesome
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      04-21-2010, 09:31 PM   #124
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Holy crap. I was thinking like a year or two from now.
Um yeah, it will be close to two years.... You wont see this car untill

MY2012, no mater if its an M car or iS.
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      04-21-2010, 09:43 PM   #125
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No pic, then only speculation from both YOU AND ME.

And that is the TRUTH, unless you can get sombody who is on site at the testing to show documet proof that it is a Manual transmission in the test mule.
Are you really going to argue against the car rolling backwards at ~2:20 before going up the tiny hill when entering the parking lot? In fact, if anything, this suggests the car doesn't have hill-assist like my 2008 does. This car, not the "M1" in general, clearly is a stick and does not have a DCT or automatic. I think it's pretty clear given all of the other information we have that DCT will be an option. This specific mule does not. You don't need a pic of a stick to "prove it".
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      04-21-2010, 11:09 PM   #126
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A good video.
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      04-22-2010, 12:56 AM   #127
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Limited slip diff? 2:24
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      04-22-2010, 02:31 AM   #128
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I think the M1 sounds very similar to the M3.
Just check out the sound when it goes up the little ramp through the barrier.
This sound remembers me like the last day an M3 passed by very slow...
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      04-22-2010, 03:25 AM   #129
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M3 Sound versus inline 6 FI?

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I think the M1 sounds very similar to the M3.
Just check out the sound when it goes up the little ramp through the barrier.
This sound remembers me like the last day an M3 passed by very slow...

Theirs no way in hell an inline 6 FI, will ever sound like an N/A V8 that revs to 8400 RPM. You must be kidding?
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      04-22-2010, 04:39 AM   #130
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Sure, but in the lower revolutions in my opinion it sounds similar. Anyway, what I want to say it that it Sound nice !
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      04-22-2010, 09:39 AM   #131
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I don't care what "other" car it may sound like, it sounds great in the video.

The sound coming from the car at 1:26 when he downshifts is freaking excellent!
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      04-22-2010, 10:12 AM   #132
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Everytime I watch this video, I find myself doing this:

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