Fraud By "komitao"

mineo77 · 04-16-2010, 09:53 AM

hope you catch that piece of shit bastard! Since he is reading this...why dont you get your lazy, piece of shit ass to work like the rest of us. Karma baby, Karma is coming your way...hope such a small sum of money was worth it.

Alex, keep us posted...i hope you get this creep. Sounds like he has screwed some others out of money too.

I hate hearing crap like this!

Taymaishu · 04-16-2010, 10:33 AM

Update: I think I have found him.

Alex, there is a PM about to go to you with name, address and telephone number. I'll state my reasons here for why i think this is him once you've had a chance to read and check it all out.

Taymaishu · 04-16-2010, 10:41 AM

I am confident I have him. Check your PMs Alex

PS: A bottle of Californian Pinot Noir would be lovely

Taymaishu · 04-16-2010, 10:50 AM

I just Google Maps and street viewed the business address that I have, and i can see "T. Phung" above the door on a sign to the entry.

Bingo. 4.5 hours to get him.

arrutled · 04-16-2010, 10:57 AM

Hope he is reading! you're screwed!

supraking · 04-16-2010, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taymaishu

I just Google Maps and street viewed the business address that I have, and i can see "T. Phung" above the door on a sign to the entry.

Bingo. 4.5 hours to get him.

Ahahahahahahahaha. LOVE IT.

Taymaishu · 04-16-2010, 11:32 AM

Anyway, here is how I found him:

1. Alex gave me all the info he had including two disconnected phone numbers, his name, a woman's name who was registered to one of the numbers and 2 email addresses Tony Phung used to communicate with him.

2. I began by simple checking of email addresses and cross-referencing, which brought up nothing

3. I then checked the Komitao forum name through a forum checking technique I have, and was directed here: http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...&page=18&pp=15 This didn't prove anything, but gave me a suspected point of reference.

4. Low and behold, the Komitao there had an email address listed on that site. Then i started to compare his posts on 1Addicts to his posts over at howard forums, and they all matched. The grammar was identical, the use of the emoticon "^^", and the use of 3 full stops was exactly the same as the posts by Komitao on 1Addicts.

5. I then began to cross reference that email address against all the info i had: phone numbers, a reputed address (which existed but was not his), names, forum names, other email addresses. Most results were defunct and did not bring up much information.

6. However, in the results digging very deeply, I found out there was a Tony Phung who is an Agape Chinese Baptist: http://members.shaw.ca/acbcenglish/index.html - i then used this to add to my ever-growing list of information.

7. I stalled a bit here, so decided to go back to square one, the 1Addicts forum. I had a look at some of Komitao's posts, and realised he's very knowledgable in Audio Visual and electronics (see here: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...hlight=komitao). I added this into my list of information to use.

8. I then compiled all the known and guaranteed information i had, so when i started to dig very deep, I would get the most reliable results.

9. So, I checked out Komitao's name and numbers first, matched up against the Chinese Agape Baptist stuff, no avail. I then Whois Net Registry checked the name of Tony Phung to no avail.

10. I did as above, but this time with his Audio/Visual expertise instead of the Chinese Agape Baptist information, relying on the most accurate and guaranteed info I had.

11. And that's when it became clear. There is a Tony Phung in British Columbia who owns an AV store specialising in Car Audio! I then Google Maps'd the address listed to check that it was legitimate. There was his name right above the entry to the store - i even checked to see if there was a 135i in the drive but he must have been out to lunch when the google car went past

And that's how to bring down a scammer!

1ntense_Rocket · 04-16-2010, 11:43 AM

haha awsome story! hope you get this guy! update us!!

mineo77 · 04-16-2010, 11:51 AM

SWEET! Taymaishu i will send you that bottle of wine if Alex cant find any good cali pinots...i live in Portland, OR so many of them are at my disposal. Keep us updated

escobar929 · 04-16-2010, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taymaishu

I am confident I have him. Check your PMs Alex

PS: A bottle of Californian Pinot Noir would be lovely

great work!

it would be great to catch this POS, too much of this goes on in all car forums

spud · 04-16-2010, 12:10 PM

please photocapture all events that unfold. trip there, confrontation, police showing up, hand cuffed and the like.

love the interent. good luck!

Taymaishu · 04-16-2010, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spud

please photocapture all events that unfold. trip there, confrontation, police showing up, hand cuffed and the like.

love the interent. good luck!

It would be worth the trip over to Canada to accompany Alex on a potential visit just to tell the guy i found him that quickly with a limited amount of info

spud · 04-16-2010, 12:19 PM

oh trust me, if i could take time off work to go help this guy. I totally would.

My name is Alex, and the Alex's have to stick together

Yvette · 04-16-2010, 12:22 PM

the scammer is in BC Canada?
and if you are reading this, why dont you just contact the OP and send him the wheels or refund the money....
$1200 could ruin your life man....

spud · 04-16-2010, 12:23 PM

oh snap, we might have someone that can go do some recon for the OP.

nice!

Taymaishu · 04-16-2010, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spud

oh trust me, if i could take time off work to go help this guy. I totally would.

My name is Alex, and the Alex's have to stick together

And i'm Alex, too. So it's all good!

spud · 04-16-2010, 12:29 PM

arrutled · 04-16-2010, 12:30 PM

is there anyway to check if that tony phung has a 135 registered in BC?

warpanda · 04-16-2010, 12:36 PM

Not to dampen what seems to be some good work, but can you really be sure that the A/V-related Tony Phung in B.C. is the same guy?

If you did find a 135i, that would be much more conclusive.

Regardless, I hope justice is served!

Taymaishu · 04-16-2010, 12:38 PM

There are another number of things which points to him, not just the A/V stuff, including email servers being the same for his payment address and what i've seen as his personal address.

JuuS · 04-16-2010, 12:45 PM

I came recently from a Benz forum (bought a 135i two months ago) and something very similar happened there as well with 4 AMG wheels a couple of years back. Interesting read and quick sleuthing. Great job.

warpanda · 04-16-2010, 12:46 PM

So his payment address matches the personal address of the person you found in B.C.?

04-16-2010, 09:53 AM	#23
mineo77 Lieutenant Colonel 123 Rep 1,925 Posts Drives: 2010 135i,1989 PRO3,2001 530i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Portland,OR iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 135i coupe [7.56]	hope you catch that piece of shit bastard! Since he is reading this...why dont you get your lazy, piece of shit ass to work like the rest of us. Karma baby, Karma is coming your way...hope such a small sum of money was worth it. Alex, keep us posted...i hope you get this creep. Sounds like he has screwed some others out of money too. I hate hearing crap like this! __________________ 135i coupe  6MT  TiAg  ///M sport http://www.rhominnovations.com www.musicarNW.com www.unitedBMWonline.com
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04-16-2010, 10:33 AM	#24
Taymaishu Banned 145 Rep 3,016 Posts Drives: I love massive black cocks Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in my ass and around my mouth iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 125i [5.50]	Update: I think I have found him. Alex, there is a PM about to go to you with name, address and telephone number. I'll state my reasons here for why i think this is him once you've had a chance to read and check it all out.
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04-16-2010, 10:41 AM	#25
Taymaishu Banned 145 Rep 3,016 Posts Drives: I love massive black cocks Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in my ass and around my mouth iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 125i [5.50]	I am confident I have him. Check your PMs Alex PS: A bottle of Californian Pinot Noir would be lovely
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04-16-2010, 10:50 AM	#26
Taymaishu Banned 145 Rep 3,016 Posts Drives: I love massive black cocks Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in my ass and around my mouth iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 125i [5.50]	I just Google Maps and street viewed the business address that I have, and i can see "T. Phung" above the door on a sign to the entry. Bingo. 4.5 hours to get him.
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04-16-2010, 10:57 AM	#27
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	Hope he is reading! you're screwed! __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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04-16-2010, 11:32 AM	#29
Taymaishu Banned 145 Rep 3,016 Posts Drives: I love massive black cocks Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in my ass and around my mouth iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 125i [5.50]	Anyway, here is how I found him: 1. Alex gave me all the info he had including two disconnected phone numbers, his name, a woman's name who was registered to one of the numbers and 2 email addresses Tony Phung used to communicate with him. 2. I began by simple checking of email addresses and cross-referencing, which brought up nothing 3. I then checked the Komitao forum name through a forum checking technique I have, and was directed here: http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...&page=18&pp=15 This didn't prove anything, but gave me a suspected point of reference. 4. Low and behold, the Komitao there had an email address listed on that site. Then i started to compare his posts on 1Addicts to his posts over at howard forums, and they all matched. The grammar was identical, the use of the emoticon "^^", and the use of 3 full stops was exactly the same as the posts by Komitao on 1Addicts. 5. I then began to cross reference that email address against all the info i had: phone numbers, a reputed address (which existed but was not his), names, forum names, other email addresses. Most results were defunct and did not bring up much information. 6. However, in the results digging very deeply, I found out there was a Tony Phung who is an Agape Chinese Baptist: http://members.shaw.ca/acbcenglish/index.html - i then used this to add to my ever-growing list of information. 7. I stalled a bit here, so decided to go back to square one, the 1Addicts forum. I had a look at some of Komitao's posts, and realised he's very knowledgable in Audio Visual and electronics (see here: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...hlight=komitao). I added this into my list of information to use. 8. I then compiled all the known and guaranteed information i had, so when i started to dig very deep, I would get the most reliable results. 9. So, I checked out Komitao's name and numbers first, matched up against the Chinese Agape Baptist stuff, no avail. I then Whois Net Registry checked the name of Tony Phung to no avail. 10. I did as above, but this time with his Audio/Visual expertise instead of the Chinese Agape Baptist information, relying on the most accurate and guaranteed info I had. 11. And that's when it became clear. There is a Tony Phung in British Columbia who owns an AV store specialising in Car Audio! I then Google Maps'd the address listed to check that it was legitimate. There was his name right above the entry to the store - i even checked to see if there was a 135i in the drive but he must have been out to lunch when the google car went past And that's how to bring down a scammer! Last edited by Taymaishu; 04-16-2010 at 11:38 AM..
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04-16-2010, 11:43 AM	#30
1ntense_Rocket 1ntense_Rocket 28 Rep 301 Posts Drives: BMW 128i sport Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (1)	haha awsome story! hope you get this guy! update us!!
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04-16-2010, 11:51 AM	#31
mineo77 Lieutenant Colonel 123 Rep 1,925 Posts Drives: 2010 135i,1989 PRO3,2001 530i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Portland,OR iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 135i coupe [7.56]	SWEET! Taymaishu i will send you that bottle of wine if Alex cant find any good cali pinots...i live in Portland, OR so many of them are at my disposal. Keep us updated __________________ 135i coupe  6MT  TiAg  ///M sport http://www.rhominnovations.com www.musicarNW.com www.unitedBMWonline.com
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04-16-2010, 12:10 PM	#33
spud Private First Class 13 Rep 157 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Woodbridge, VA iTrader: (0)	please photocapture all events that unfold. trip there, confrontation, police showing up, hand cuffed and the like. love the interent. good luck! __________________ (0OO \ (\|\|\|\|)(\|\|\|\|) / OO0) Alex 2009 135i LMB M package
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04-16-2010, 12:19 PM	#35
spud Private First Class 13 Rep 157 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Woodbridge, VA iTrader: (0)	oh trust me, if i could take time off work to go help this guy. I totally would. My name is Alex, and the Alex's have to stick together __________________ (0OO \ (\|\|\|\|)(\|\|\|\|) / OO0) Alex 2009 135i LMB M package
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04-16-2010, 12:22 PM	#36
Yvette Major General 761 Rep 7,408 Posts Drives: M Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver iTrader: (19)	the scammer is in BC Canada? and if you are reading this, why dont you just contact the OP and send him the wheels or refund the money.... $1200 could ruin your life man....
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04-16-2010, 12:23 PM	#37
spud Private First Class 13 Rep 157 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Woodbridge, VA iTrader: (0)	oh snap, we might have someone that can go do some recon for the OP. nice! __________________ (0OO \ (\|\|\|\|)(\|\|\|\|) / OO0) Alex 2009 135i LMB M package
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04-16-2010, 12:29 PM	#39
spud Private First Class 13 Rep 157 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Woodbridge, VA iTrader: (0)	__________________ (0OO \ (\|\|\|\|)(\|\|\|\|) / OO0) Alex 2009 135i LMB M package
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04-16-2010, 12:30 PM	#40
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	is there anyway to check if that tony phung has a 135 registered in BC? __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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04-16-2010, 12:36 PM	#41
warpanda Private First Class 5 Rep 113 Posts Drives: 2011 AW/CR 135i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	Not to dampen what seems to be some good work, but can you really be sure that the A/V-related Tony Phung in B.C. is the same guy? If you did find a 135i, that would be much more conclusive. Regardless, I hope justice is served!
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04-16-2010, 12:38 PM	#42
Taymaishu Banned 145 Rep 3,016 Posts Drives: I love massive black cocks Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: in my ass and around my mouth iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 125i [5.50]	There are another number of things which points to him, not just the A/V stuff, including email servers being the same for his payment address and what i've seen as his personal address.
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04-16-2010, 12:45 PM	#43
JuuS Private 0 Rep 93 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (0)	I came recently from a Benz forum (bought a 135i two months ago) and something very similar happened there as well with 4 AMG wheels a couple of years back. Interesting read and quick sleuthing. Great job.
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04-16-2010, 12:46 PM	#44
warpanda Private First Class 5 Rep 113 Posts Drives: 2011 AW/CR 135i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	So his payment address matches the personal address of the person you found in B.C.?
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