Who Wants One? 1m

Das Ein · 05-13-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FJUNO78

Once the initial wave of consumers get their cars it will die down...

I rememeber reading threads about the Z4m coupe... Dealers were letting these things go for over 10k below invoice....

Regardless of what anyone wants to believe, these cars are nothing special to the average person. I even say that about my 135i, which I love dearly. The 1 series has not won over the general public, and the ///m coupe will not change that.

Any demand that does exist is artificial. If people can not see that, they need to take a few courses in economics. (With that said, I do think the 1 series M Coupe is cool as hell, and it is a true ///m car)

...Nail on the head buddy.

jkoral · 05-13-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FJUNO78

Regardless of what anyone wants to believe, these cars are nothing special to the average person. I even say that about my 135i, which I love dearly.

This is true. Coming back from lunch last week, we walked by a Dodge Caliber in "Mango Tango" (I had to look up the color name) and a co-worker mentioned it looked like that "orange BMW I was looking at" (VO 1M).

To a non-car person, they look like two similarly sized, bright orange funky little cars.

M3 Adjuster · 05-13-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

I highly doubt any 1M's will be sitting around the dealer lots this year waiting for a Discount to sell.

There are 15 people with deposits down at my dealer waiting for the Two cars they are looking to get for the entire year.

Those same people are the ones that queue up in line at a traffic light in the same lane, leaving the far lane with just two or three cars in it..

Most people simply go to their local BMW store and get in line, or they have a sales person that they have worked with before etc... They aren't industrious enough to look aroiund a bit. I'll gladly admit I could have spent a day or two calling dealers looking for an allocation, but I just haven't made the time.

Papethova · 05-13-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

My point is this, try buying on of these cars. I don't think they are for sale. I am saying they are pre-ordered by customers and only show up because they are in the dealers system as inventory before delivery.

I don't think you can call and buy one somewhere else like this thread implys.

If you do fine one at a dealer that isn't pre-sold it's because the dealer is trying for $5 - $10 over MSRP.

Thats not true, we called around a few days ago and found dealerships with open available allocations at MSRP ready to spec for the customer and others willing to offer nice discounts on their first allocation which is still pending. Either way none of them had waiting lists.

Brandon26pdx · 05-13-2011, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

My point is this, try buying on of these cars. I don't think they are for sale. I am saying they are pre-ordered by customers and only show up because they are in the dealers system as inventory before delivery.

I don't think you can call and buy one somewhere else like this thread implys.

If you do fine one at a dealer that isn't pre-sold it's because the dealer is trying for $5 - $10 over MSRP.

Maybe or maybe not at this exact moment, but give it 6 months and we'll see

1Mer · 05-13-2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Those same people are the ones that queue up in line at a traffic light in the same lane, leaving the far lane with just two or three cars in it..

Most people simply go to their local BMW store and get in line, or they have a sales person that they have worked with before etc... They aren't industrious enough to look aroiund a bit. I'll gladly admit I could have spent a day or two calling dealers looking for an allocation, but I just haven't made the time.

Unlimited, but hard to get perhaps?

1SerieStud · 05-13-2011, 02:28 PM

Not all of them. Fields BMW has a black one sitting in their show room that has not been sold. I know this because I almost bought this car a month back...and even today, it still hasn't sold. They are not marking it up, and I will be paying them a visit tomorrow just to see the car in person, as I patiently await my VO beauty.

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Originally Posted by Redadair

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Originally Posted by Brandon26pdx

Why would they bother with that idiocy if they could buy one from any dealer in the country that has one and just have it shipped? Nobody handcuffs your purchasing options to your geographically nearest BMW dealer do they?

My point is this, try buying on of these cars. I don't think they are for sale. I am saying they are pre-ordered by customers and only show up because they are in the dealers system as inventory before delivery.

I don't think you can call and buy one somewhere else like this thread implys.

If you do fine one at a dealer that isn't pre-sold it's because the dealer is trying for $5 - $10 over MSRP.

1SerieStud · 05-13-2011, 02:30 PM

^^^ I did forget to mention that they may have not sold it due to their unusual sketchy way of doing business though...who knows why it hasn't sold even when they claim no markup?!

JHOOPS2 · 05-13-2011, 02:36 PM

This is the GT500 fiasco all over again. Everyone was paying as much as $40K ADM over sticker to pre-order through a dealership. Then when the dust settled most dealers in my area had one or two sitting in their showrooms that were not spoken for. This then drove the price down considerable and all of those that had to be the first on the block to have one and paid those hefty ADM's immediately were so far upside down that they could have bought two for the negative equity that they had in the single car. Now, the ADM's aren't bad on the 1-Series M, but it does look like if you really want one, it can be found.

Redadair · 05-13-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Papethova

Thats not true, we called around a few days ago and found dealerships with open available allocations at MSRP ready to spec for the customer and others willing to offer nice discounts on their first allocation which is still pending. Either way none of them had waiting lists.

How about listing these dealers you contacted so we can call and place order Okay?

DiavelM3 · 05-13-2011, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

How about listing these dealers you contacted so we can call and place order Okay?

I think if you look around these threads you will see that there are a few unspoken for.
You dont have to lead a horse to the trough here. It's simple. Just call around yourself if you are serious about it. If you are stuck at one dealership then, that is all on you and might be why you may not get one.. Why put all your eggs in one basket? If you don't find what you are looking for in one dealership,then, look around. Only lazy people will place ALL their hopes in ONE dealership in the hopes to get one of these cars.
The other thing is this. This car was just officially released a couple of weeks ago. There is a BMWblog entry where you can put your name on a list and a BMW dealership will call you. We shouldnt have to do ALL the work for you man

Look around is what we're all saying. There are a few out there. Don't be NAIVE

1SerieStud · 05-13-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JHOOPS2

This is the GT500 fiasco all over again. Everyone was paying as much as $40K ADM over sticker to pre-order through a dealership. Then when the dust settled most dealers in my area had one or two sitting in their showrooms that were not spoken for. This then drove the price down considerable and all of those that had to be the first on the block to have one and paid those hefty ADM's immediately were so far upside down that they could have bought two for the negative equity that they had in the single car. Now, the ADM's aren't bad on the 1-Series M, but it does look like if you really want one, it can be found.

Are you serious?

I saw one listed for 5-6k over msrp the other day and I had to laugh...I wouldn't own one not even if it was offered to me at invoice.

My135 · 05-13-2011, 04:00 PM

It really take a hard core BMW enthuiasist to be interested in the 1M. Others will have a lot of choices in the 45-55 K$ price range. I think 6 months from now, 1M will be selling at MSRP or 1-2 K$ less.

ucla1995 · 05-13-2011, 04:35 PM

I called on a couple of these listings and the cars were already pre-sold. They just popped up online because of automatic inventory software is all.

Redadair · 05-13-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrari4evr1

I think if you look around these threads you will see that there are a few unspoken for.
You dont have to lead a horse to the trough here. It's simple. Just call around yourself if you are serious about it. If you are stuck at one dealership then, that is all on you and might be why you may not get one.. Why put all your eggs in one basket? If you don't find what you are looking for in one dealership,then, look around. Only lazy people will place ALL their hopes in ONE dealership in the hopes to get one of these cars.
The other thing is this. This car was just officially released a couple of weeks ago. There is a BMWblog entry where you can put your name on a list and a BMW dealership will call you. We shouldnt have to do ALL the work for you man

Look around is what we're all saying. There are a few out there. Don't be NAIVE

I have called around, Lazy people? How about the people who are actually buying an 1M and who have done their homework and know how hard these cars are to get vs people who are assuming they are just like any other 1 series and can be found anywhere.

Anyone who has been following these forums for more than a few days knows how few 1M's have made it to the US so far.

I think most of us who are waiting have checked around at other dealers.

I haven't found a single open Allocation at another dealer that the dealer isn't trying to charge over MSRP by several thousand.

Redadair · 05-13-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ucla1995

I called on a couple of these listings and the cars were already pre-sold. They just popped up online because of automatic inventory software is all.

Imagine that, I think that is what I and others have been saying. There simply isn't 1M's sitting around the US waiting for buyers. This is a very limited edition car that is only being produced from March through December 2011. That's it folks.

Brandon26pdx · 05-13-2011, 04:49 PM

Like I said, possibly not yet because of the newness, but give it it a few months and we'll revisit this. Winning party gets the right to hound and berate the losing party mercilessly.

Papethova · 05-13-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

Imagine that, I think that is what I and others have been saying. There simply isn't 1M's sitting around the US waiting for buyers. This is a very limited edition car that is only being produced from March through December 2011. That's it folks.

When I initially looked to order the car I found over 3 dozen dealerships agreeing to 500-1k over invoice. Once I secured my order I shared those dealerships with the people here. How much luck they had, I dont know.

Now I am helping a friend get one and looking for a plan B since my dealership has yet to get an allocation. Once we have secured our two cars I will gladly share the dealerships with the people on this board.

However, this time there are only 5-6 dealers on my list and 2 have yet to get an allocation, but at least one will spec a car for MSRP right now and NONE have a waiting list. As I said, once my friend has decided what to do the other dealerships and allocations will be shared.

Redadair · 05-13-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Papethova

When I initially looked to order the car I found over 3 dozen dealerships agreeing to 500-1k over invoice. Once I secured my order I shared those dealerships with the people here. How much luck they had, I dont know.

Now I am helping a friend get one and looking for a plan B since my dealership has yet to get an allocation. Once we have secured our two cars I will gladly share the dealerships with the people on this board.

However, this time there are only 5-6 dealers on my list and 2 have yet to get an allocation, but at least one will spec a car for MSRP right now and NONE have a waiting list. As I said, once my friend has decided what to do the other dealerships and allocations will be shared.

So you are essentially in the same boat as everyone else who has yet to get an Allocation.

From the sound of this post you should be able to choose any car you want by color and options from dealers all over the US and just have it shipped to you??

I don't think anyone needs you to find a car for them. Once the Allocations become available at the dealers we are all working with we will get our cars, but not before then.

Papethova · 05-13-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

So you are essentially in the same boat as everyone else who has yet to get an Allocation.

From the sound of this post you should be able to choose any car you want by color and options from dealers all over the US and just have it shipped to you??

I don't think anyone needs you to find a car for them. Once the Allocations become available at the dealers we are all working with we will get our cars, but not before then.

I am waiting for an allocation at a deal closed at $500 over ED MSRP, thats under 40k base price. Like I said I can get a number of them at MSRP right now, but why would I when I have a deal done at such a great price.

Also, I want to do ED and PCD, I will not take delivery at a dealership. Nor will I ever purchase a car that wasnt spec'd by me. I dont buy off the lot, never have and never will. I would pass on a fully loaded M at a discount to get one spec'd my way at full price. I definitely do not want NAV, Id walk away and never have a 1m versus having one with NAV.

I dont settle, its my way or the highway. I know what I want and thats what I will get, or as I have stated numerous times here I will go next door and order a GT3RS 4.0

mPlasticDesign · 05-13-2011, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FJUNO78

Once the initial wave of consumers get their cars it will die down...

I rememeber reading threads about the Z4m coupe... Dealers were letting these things go for over 10k below invoice....

Regardless of what anyone wants to believe, these cars are nothing special to the average person. I even say that about my 135i, which I love dearly. The 1 series has not won over the general public, and the ///m coupe will not change that.

Any demand that does exist is artificial. If people can not see that, they need to take a few courses in economics. (With that said, I do think the 1 series M Coupe is cool as hell, and it is a true ///m car)

Wow, you are all over the place. You are in every 1M thread trying to poo poo it every chance you get. I don't get it?

I got one of those Z4Mcoupes for 10k under invoice in '07, but that is because BMW was offering $10k in trunk money. This will not happen with the 1M. First, they will not be in production beyond this year, unlike the several year run the Z4M had. Second, the Z4M was a total niche market with only 2 seats and limited practicality. Third, BMW's philosophy has changed since then. With the Z4M they thought if we built it they will come. With the 1M, production is going to be a fraction of what the already limited Z4M #'s were.

DiavelM3 · 05-13-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Redadair

I have called around, Lazy people? How about the people who are actually buying an 1M and who have done their homework and know how hard these cars are to get vs people who are assuming they are just like any other 1 series and can be found anywhere.

Anyone who has been following these forums for more than a few days knows how few 1M's have made it to the US so far.

I think most of us who are waiting have checked around at other dealers.

I haven't found a single open Allocation at another dealer that the dealer isn't trying to charge over MSRP by several thousand.

This thread was created to say that there are some out there. As of this morning, there was one available at msrp and sold. Had you looked earlier this week, That loaded VO would be on a truck, to your driveway right now.
Sitting around in a dealership? Yes it was. Also, you still seem to forget that we are two weeks into the official release of this car. You (along with a couple others) seem to have this delusion that the "sky is falling" with regard to this 1M. Yeah, its true that lots of dealerships say they will only get a few allocations. Some only one. But you make it sound like the Apocalypse is actually going to happen in 2012 if you don’t get your 1M this very second and enjoy it - because there won’t be any available.
Since I have to do some of your homework - Here ya go (see links below). Again, remember this is only 2 weeks into the US official release of the car and there are a few at dealerships unspoken for. Don't cry wolf just yet. Plus, I've been following this forum for a few months now and I've already caught up with you. How much homework have you really done?
And I'm still on the fence between one of these and a E9x M3...

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530204

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=529699

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=529831
Scroll down on this one, you will see an advertised price which they hav to honor

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JHOOPS2 AKA HISSMAN 34 Rep 888 Posts Drives: 2009 SG 135i Coupe' Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (5)	This is the GT500 fiasco all over again. Everyone was paying as much as $40K ADM over sticker to pre-order through a dealership. Then when the dust settled most dealers in my area had one or two sitting in their showrooms that were not spoken for. This then drove the price down considerable and all of those that had to be the first on the block to have one and paid those hefty ADM's immediately were so far upside down that they could have bought two for the negative equity that they had in the single car. Now, the ADM's aren't bad on the 1-Series M, but it does look like if you really want one, it can be found. __________________ (FBO) Cobb Stage 2+, AR Downpipes, Injen DCI, AA (Sport) FMIC, ER Chargepipe/Synapse BOV, Carbon fiber bits and Breyton GTS-R Wheels.
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My135 Lieutenant Colonel 85 Rep 1,609 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	It really take a hard core BMW enthuiasist to be interested in the 1M. Others will have a lot of choices in the 45-55 K$ price range. I think 6 months from now, 1M will be selling at MSRP or 1-2 K$ less. __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.
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Brandon26pdx Lieutenant Colonel 28 Rep 1,938 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (1)	Like I said, possibly not yet because of the newness, but give it it a few months and we'll revisit this. Winning party gets the right to hound and berate the losing party mercilessly.
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