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      01-22-2010, 03:36 PM   #353
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lulz.. u need to take a hit of teh bong bro.




Lastly, I never said, that you said... the Mustang was going to be lighter. Ironically, it was you that got upset about how lightweight some if us suggested the new M1 was going to be. qq more plz
Here's exactly what you said:

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I would think the BMW would be more direct, unsettled and simply out handle the Mustang. The New M1 will weight about 400lbs lighter, haver a much lower center of gravity, wider track, wider tires and more low end torque as well..!

Actual spec don't mean anything, it how they are applied to the ground is what counts. BMW wins in every way.
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Please read the "The Boss" and other tell-tales from BMW?
BMW has suggested several times, that they want to reduce the M1 weight by 60kg ~ 90kg from the current 135i. Which is roughly around 1400kg... (doesn't sound too hard to do)

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Now PLEASE quote where I said the Mustang was going to be lighter.

The 1400kg number came straight out of your ass. No one with any knowledge of automotive engineering believes this car will only weight 3000lbs, and the inside source that's been posting here has specifically stated 1500kg (which I quoted for you in the other thread), which is 3300lbs.


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Brevity is usually my thing and Jeremy, you are ruining my weekend high. I'll not respond to you again. As I have dealt with your type many times over...


Brevity has NEVER been your thing. Your posts on this subject have continually been nothing but long winded and pointless ramblings about how BMW can do no wrong. You lack perspective, you a lack objectivity, you lack experience, and you a basic understanding of the physics involved, yet still attempt to reference them to back your preformed opinions. Not responding to me (or anyone else) was what you should have done in the first place.

Enjoy that high...it's all you've got.

Some time it's better to remain silent......Bro.
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      01-22-2010, 03:37 PM   #354
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^ Nice pix-- I like the quads.

There's a bunch in the photos section. The WSTO car is probably the best looking 135i on the streets to date IMO. Those wheels make the car.

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http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327276
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      01-22-2010, 03:41 PM   #355
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      01-22-2010, 03:47 PM   #356
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WHEELSTO did a great job modding that car!!!!
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      01-22-2010, 05:06 PM   #357
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Brevity is usually my thing and Jeremy, you are ruining my weekend high. I'll not respond to you again. As I have dealt with your type many times over...
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Brevity has NEVER been your thing. Your posts on this subject have continually been nothing but long winded and pointless ramblings about how BMW can do no wrong. You lack perspective, you a lack objectivity, you lack experience, and you a basic understanding of the physics involved, yet still attempt to reference them to back your preformed opinions. Not responding to me (or anyone else) was what you should have done in the first place.

Enjoy that high...it's all you've got.

Some time it's better to remain silent......Bro.
Guys, please let me ask you to stop before it's getting too personal. Your discussion is not only quite a bit off topic, but also borderline insulting. Take it to PM if you feel the need to go on. Thanks!


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      01-22-2010, 08:11 PM   #358
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There's a bunch in the photos section. The WSTO car is probably the best looking 135i on the streets to date IMO. Those wheels make the car.

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http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327276
Thanks for the link, Jeremy. The pix and videos had me Hopefully, the M1 will look just as nice
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      01-26-2010, 12:22 PM   #359
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So if this isn't going to be on the Uk streets till mid-2011, I guess the USA isn't going to see this thing till 2012? Booooooooooooooooo
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      01-26-2010, 03:00 PM   #360
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any word on if this thing is coming to the US? i am not sure if my salesman is being a salesman but he swears its not. i am not sure if i should wait and put my name on the list when the time is right or i should buy into his BS and just order a new 135.
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      01-26-2010, 03:11 PM   #361
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any word on if this thing is coming to the US? i am not sure if my salesman is being a salesman but he swears its not. i am not sure if i should wait and put my name on the list when the time is right or i should buy into his BS and just order a new 135.
Yes, BMW NA product manager Martin Birkmann hinted that it's coming to the US.


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      01-26-2010, 04:36 PM   #362
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The U.S. is BMW's largest market and I believe the ///M1 is chiefly being developed or us here in the states. (Not that it won't be sold and do well in other countries as well)
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      01-26-2010, 04:43 PM   #363
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exactly my thoughts...i am not a fan of this guy. look at the emails (names removed)

John,

Thank you for the opportunity to not have to rely on my only source of information. I will be best able to watch from a position of knowledge.
Thanks again! I look forward to the link.


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For my sake? This is something I want, not something I need. When I get back to my office I will forward you the link with the head of the M division confirming it will be brought into the states. That being said I am simply holding off a few months on the purchase of the 135 just to make sure that the M1 is not coming to the states. If I feel as though the direction has changed and it is not US bound then I will get the 135.
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Message No problem John. My sales manager who is normally on top of all manufacturing possibilities had made the statement about the M1. So I hope your source is more accurate for your sake. I will keep you on my list and will get you info to you as it comes. Thanks.


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      01-27-2010, 02:56 PM   #364
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He basically means that the M1's production has been scheduled for the last 1-2 years of the production of the E82. It can also be considered as a 'grande finale' for being the first and last 'M1' having an FI inline 6. M-variants of the next gen 1 series would get an FI inline 4.


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the original M1 was turbo? wow, i have always missed that. that does just make the whole M1 circle cutely complete.

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The next generation 1er will bring forth the Tii line with a Coupe , Cabrio and to appeal to more markets in Europe where the hot hatchback is more popular a 3dr Sporthatch. These models will be the teasers and the warm performance application before the next generation M1 arrives. PS output will be about 240 and will also be available in diesel specification using a specific boosted diesel unique to these cars.
i would personally prefer to wait for the next gen and sacrifice hp for a highly tuned chassis w extra attention paid to weight. no N/A offerings as far as M goes though? interesting. i love the idea of the 123d, so a M-version turbo diesel four perked my ears right up, and i would be in full support of - i just have no concept of a race-focused (high rev?) diesel.. ?? although if artsy youtube videos of that 3 series diesel race car are any indication, im excited to say the least. what was that, a 320d? i cant find anything on it now
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      01-27-2010, 04:04 PM   #365
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the original M1 was turbo? wow, i have always missed that. that does just make the whole M1 circle cutely complete.
The Original M1 roadcar was not a turbo. Only the racing versions were turboed and produced something like 7 or 800 HP
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ah right. i re-read what he said. makes sense now. my bad
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Go AWAY, South!




I'm in the camp that hopes they call it an "M1." I was just stating that because there is always a noticeable group that it rubs the wrong way.


It should be M Coupe or tii
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      02-23-2010, 03:20 AM   #369
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Iono I'd probably just wait for my 08's warranty to expire and tear into it.
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I guess if off the line is what you after then you don't really need a M. In fact many cars have better off the line costing less.

With just a ECU flash, I doubted you can beat the M3 on track.


Yeah, if the M 1er is anywhere near the price of an M3, I'd just go an M3 and enjoy a more 'traditional' driving experience with a manual and NA V8. More room and better options.

UNLESS the 1er gets seats like the CSL and other sexy gizmos which make it more track orientated. They should considering an optioned 135i with lux gear is the 'inexpensive' M3 path.

1er needs to go in a slightly different direction to M3/optioned 135i. Along the lines of the M3 GTS but with a few creature comforts. Come on, how much weight do you actually save by removing the radio and AC?

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1er needs to go in a slightly different direction to M3/optioned 135i. Along the lines of the M3 GTS but with a few creature comforts. Come on, how much weight do you actually save by removing the radio and AC?
More than you'd think... wiring and speakers are heavy, so is the ac unit and plumbing. However, I agree with you that the car needs to differentiate itself from the ///M3 and M-Sport 135i.
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^^^ love your sig Primo -- "Emotionally on Order"
Thanks.

Scott: Another thought I just had -- I really hope that ///M spends some time to properly tune the exhaust on this car. IMO it is really difficult to get a turbo car to sound good (subjective) and I hope they do it from the factory so we don't have to look aftermarket. I'm not expecting Ferrari sounds here, but could they try to remove the rasp while still sounding sporty/exotic in tone?
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