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[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by bimmerfan15

Is there a list of dealers/sponsors that frequent 1addicts.com? I've gotten BMWFS approval and am looking for a 2008 or 2009 135i. Thanks and sorry if this has been posted elsewhere.

Any reason why you aren't using the dealership that got you approved?

[bimmerfan15]

Originally Posted by dbtheo

Any reason why you aren't using the dealership that got you approved?

Hi, yes! Ive seen some really good deals people are getting on 135i's and my dealership won't come close to what most would consider a good deal.

Can anyone refer to me a reputable CA?

[Guildenstern]

Hmm. There's one around here somewhere. He runs a thread, "question a seller guy" or "Inquire with a CA". :iono:


Oh yea I remeber now "Ask A Dealer" It's dbtheo of Ganley BMW! He rocks!

Edit: And he won't call your selection girly:biggrin:

[Alow]

Originally Posted by bimmerfan15

Hi, yes! Ive seen some really good deals people are getting on 135i's and my dealership won't come close to what most would consider a good deal.

Can anyone refer to me a reputable CA?

well yes, the CA that is answering this thread! :wink: dbtheo has quite a few good reviews and is very active on this forum. I did not purchase from him, but he seemed very straightforward when I asked him for a price.

EDIT: I should add the reason I did not purchase from him has nothing to do with him, but because my local dealer matched his very competitive price and I decided to go with the local dealer due to relationship with dealer... They have been good to me before and I have two bimmers to service.... Otherwise, it would've been him for sure.

[SKooT1027]

Hey db - new to the forum and just started considering a 135i yesterday actually (have been leaning toward a 996 or e46m3 but kind of want something w warranty). I see they are offering $479/mo leases on 135i's on the website, but at the same time I hear everyone talking about 135i leases being horribly overpriced, and approaching the $700 range (which is absurd IMO). What have been the best deals you could do on leases? Is it even worth looking at, and do you expect it to be better pre or post the new year?

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by SKooT1027

Hey db - new to the forum and just started considering a 135i yesterday actually (have been leaning toward a 996 or e46m3 but kind of want something w warranty). I see they are offering $479/mo leases on 135i's on the website, but at the same time I hear everyone talking about 135i leases being horribly overpriced, and approaching the $700 range (which is absurd IMO). What have been the best deals you could do on leases? Is it even worth looking at, and do you expect it to be better pre or post the new year?

the lease specials you see advertised are most likely 2008's, not 09'. Then they typically are structured the following:

• a fairly base msrp
• $2500 down payment + 1st payment + security & reg
• taxes are not inlcuded
• 10k miles a year.
• so in this scenerio, you've got atleast $3800 due @ signing still plus taxes

If you do the math it is pretty easy to see how the payments could get high.

• no down payment + $75
• 15k per year plus another $45 or so
• tax in + $35-$50 depending on your rates

all of a sudden your $479 payment is around $650.

A "best deal" is relative. The payments are much better than when the car was first introduced. But also too, buyers need to understand the way the "ad" leases are structured compared to what they need. Personally I don't ever really see the 1 becoming the lease king with BMW. I think they will keep it in perspective, I think maybe in the future we will see the ad prices drop by maybe $30 per month

[SKooT1027]

Originally Posted by dbtheo

the lease specials you see advertised are most likely 2008's, not 09'. Then they typically are structured the following:

• a fairly base msrp
• $2500 down payment + 1st payment + security & reg
• taxes are not inlcuded
• 10k miles a year.
• so in this scenerio, you've got atleast $3800 due @ signing still plus taxes

If you do the math it is pretty easy to see how the payments could get high.

• no down payment + $75
• 15k per year plus another $45 or so
• tax in + $35-$50 depending on your rates

all of a sudden your $479 payment is around $650.

A "best deal" is relative. The payments are much better than when the car was first introduced. But also too, buyers need to understand the way the "ad" leases are structured compared to what they need. Personally I don't ever really see the 1 becoming the lease king with BMW. I think they will keep it in perspective, I think maybe in the future we will see the ad prices drop by maybe $30 per month

Think it's possible to get into a decent 135i vert for under $500? I see m3 leases in the low $600s sometimes, which is insane, so I'd like to think the 135 isnt going to be nearly as high

[BlackjackMulligan]

Originally Posted by SKooT1027

Think it's possible to get into a decent 135i vert for under $500? I see m3 leases in the low $600s sometimes, which is insane, so I'd like to think the 135 isnt going to be nearly as high

I keep hearing about these M3 leases in the low $600s, WHO is getting this kind of deal without a ton of money down?

To answer the question directly, I'm getting my 135i Vert for $477/month for 24 mos 10k miles per year but upfront cost is $5800 out the door. This is for a fairly loaded example over $46k.

The downpayment portion of that is about $4300 so it would have been around $600/month with nothing down.

[SKooT1027]

Originally Posted by BlackjackMulligan

I keep hearing about these M3 leases in the low $600s, WHO is getting this kind of deal without a ton of money down?

To answer the question directly, I'm getting my 135i Vert for $477/month for 24 mos 10k miles per year but upfront cost is $5800 out the door. This is for a fairly loaded example over $46k.

The downpayment portion of that is about $4300 so it would have been around $600/month with nothing down.

I dont know how these people are pulling these numbers, I just have been scouring different forums and keep coming across threads. See that doesnt sound bad, but I don't know how much I want to put down $4-5k on a 2 year lease. To me, $600/mo really isnt bad (i guess it just looks worse) when I consider thats an extra $175/mo from what I pay now, so ~2100$ for a year, and I have spent that much or more each year on repairs.

[fun2drv]

Hi!
I know that this is kind of early, but I like to plan ahead. I'm currently leasing a car that I will replace with a 135i when the lease ends in 27 Jan 2010. When should I be placing my order for the 135i to make sure that I have the car before my lease ends? My plan right now is to place the order soon after I finish paying for my '04 M3 the first week in October. I do want to get a 2010 model and I'm concerned about availability of allocations since this would be an early 2010 model build. Based on these facts, what kind of lead time do you recommend? This will be my 3rd BMW purchase from the same dealer.

Thanks in advance for your help!!!

Juan

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by fun2drv

Hi!
I know that this is kind of early, but I like to plan ahead. I'm currently leasing a car that I will replace with a 135i when the lease ends in 27 Jan 2010. When should I be placing my order for the 135i to make sure that I have the car before my lease ends? My plan right now is to place the order soon after I finish paying for my '04 M3 the first week in October. I do want to get a 2010 model and I'm concerned about availability of allocations since this would be an early 2010 model build. Based on these facts, what kind of lead time do you recommend? This will be my 3rd BMW purchase from the same dealer.

Thanks in advance for your help!!!

Juan

well to order a car is only about 7-8 weeks. Since your lease ends in January, at that point there will already be plenty off allocations. 10's would have started arrving in sept of 2009.

[imported_User Name]

Hi,

What is the base rate for a 2008 bmw 135i coupe, dealer says it is .0065, is this correct? Lease is for 12k a year, 36 months
THanks

[BimmerLearner]

Base is 0.00050

[imported_User Name]

So the dealer is lying to me, they told me it's 57% and .0065 for 12k miles a year, 36 months on a 2008 bmw 135i coupe

Thanks for the reponse

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by User Name

So the dealer is lying to me, they told me it's 57% and .0065 for 12k miles a year, 36 months on a 2008 bmw 135i coupe

Thanks for the reponse

I'll check in the morning, but I think it is .0050, or atleast it was in December, may have went up for january

[BimmerLearner]

The 2008 135 is 0.00050 or 1.2% apr.

[odellrm]

Dave,

Have you ever dealt with a customer that had a car delivered to your dealership through a foreign MSP?

I am currently serving in Kuwait in support of OIF, and have bought a 128i through Superior Motors. It is currently at Bramerhaven awaiting a shipping vessel and should arrive to the delivering dealership in Akron about the same time I get home in March.

Do you think the dealership will be able to help me get the car titled and the taxes paid? I am just concerned since I didn't buy it through a stateside dealership.

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by BimmerLearner

Base is 0.00050

This is correct but ONLY for 36 months. If you are getting quotes for any other term, the rate could be ( and will be) higher.

Also the rates could vary based on your region

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by odellrm

Dave,

Have you ever dealt with a customer that had a car delivered to your dealership through a foreign MSP?

I am currently serving in Kuwait in support of OIF, and have bought a 128i through Superior Motors. It is currently at Bramerhaven awaiting a shipping vessel and should arrive to the delivering dealership in Akron about the same time I get home in March.

Do you think the dealership will be able to help me get the car titled and the taxes paid? I am just concerned since I didn't buy it through a stateside dealership.

I personally have not worked with anyone. However, our dealer ship has. I'm not what we did other than get the car cleaned up. I suppose if you pay the appropriate fee's they can help with titling & such. But honestly I don't know for sure

[odellrm]

Originally Posted by dbtheo

I personally have not worked with anyone. However, our dealer ship has. I'm not what we did other than get the car cleaned up. I suppose if you pay the appropriate fee's they can help with titling & such. But honestly I don't know for sure

Alright. Thanks, I just thought I would ask. I can't wait to get home and take delivery.:smile:

[1013mm]

Hey can one of the dealers help me out here?

So I ordered a 2009 135i back in october when everything was fine financially for me. The car is due next month. We negotiated and I told them I would pay in full cash upon arrival and pickup. However the problem now is that I don't have the cash anymore and I want to finance it most likely through BMW finance. Will I still be able to get my car and will the price still be the same? What will change? And if I can get it are there any cheaper financing options out there right now??

Sigh.... Thanks...

[dbtheo]

Originally Posted by jzhang

Hey can one of the dealers help me out here?

So I ordered a 2009 135i back in october when everything was fine financially for me. The car is due next month. We negotiated and I told them I would pay in full cash upon arrival and pickup. However the problem now is that I don't have the cash anymore and I want to finance it most likely through BMW finance. Will I still be able to get my car and will the price still be the same? What will change? And if I can get it are there any cheaper financing options out there right now??

Sigh.... Thanks...

nothing should change with the price of your car. Just tell your dealer you want to finance now, BMW has has some nice rates on the 09 135's