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      07-18-2018, 03:27 PM   #1
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Tariffs on auto parts maybe worse than impact on the assembled car

Today I ordered a Supersprint exhaust for my E34 540, thought occured to me it might be 25% more in a few months so with the sale it was a excellent deal.

Then the really painful thought came to me, tires, I have 5 cars and go through a lot of tires every year, 25% increase would be huge to me.

Sure the new M3 I want with a 25% increase would hurt. But aftermarket auto parts is a huge business, you already see many people not fixing cars because they cant afford the parts/labor.

I think the impact of parts is more than the impact of a whole car or the imported pieces to make the car in the USA. Obviously a lot of people will not be buying new cars.... but then everyone driving a used car is going to be hurt.

Such a stupid idea this tariff is.

I better get a bunch of PSS PS4C before hand LOL
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      07-18-2018, 07:55 PM   #2
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I have quite a few cars along with much equipment to maintain large land plots and will gladly pay whatever it takes as I agree with the tariffs, this though is more of a political topic and really this isn't the place to discuss it= enjoy your car and today because you never know what tomorrow will bring.
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Something tells me you can't afford those cars if 25% increase on consumables and mods is a big deal to you.

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I agree with the tariffs
What is your background that qualifies you to have a opinion on the matter?
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I'm an American citizen that has worked hard for what I have, that's enough background. Wont get into an argument as I believe everyone is welcome to their opinion and while I may disagree I respect it.
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Are tariffs good for all Americans or just some of us? I'm not sure...
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I started this thread not on the validity of the tariffs but more how the light bulb went off that tires could become much more expensive, almost all are imported. Then I began to think about the shear number of people who already struggle to afford to repair their cars. The media is just focusing on new cars and assembly parts for the cars produced in the US, but the impact would be so much larger.
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I started this thread not on the validity of the tariffs but more how the light bulb went off that tires could become much more expensive, almost all are imported.
It’s actually pretty easy to find tires made in USA. Tire Rack lists country of origin so you can comparison shop. Personally I’d much rather support my friends and neighbors than foreign entities. You can’t source all products locally but most durable good are available.
BF Goodrich, Michelin, Bridgestone and Hoosier have been my last four tire purchases, all made in USA. Channel lock MIG pliers were 30% more than “Hobart” made in China, my kid will probably inherit the Channellocks.
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True, though I think all my PSS for various cars were made in Europe and Nokians definitely not made here, neither are Falkens, dont know about my Conti's.

Michelin as example, some sizes made in US others only produced in Europe.

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It’s actually pretty easy to find tires made in USA. Tire Rack lists country of origin so you can comparison shop. Personally I’d much rather support my friends and neighbors than foreign entities. You can’t source all products locally but most durable good are available.
BF Goodrich, Michelin, Bridgestone and Hoosier have been my last four tire purchases, all made in USA. Channel lock MIG pliers were 30% more than “Hobart” made in China, my kid will probably inherit the Channellocks.
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Prices of US made tires (and other auto parts) will go up as well. Some of that will be due to the increase in the cost of their raw materials, and part of it will be just raising the price to match the imported competition (as happened with washing machines).

You can't hide from tariffs by buying "made in the US" - the prices of those products go up as well.
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Guess we all better start hoarding tires now!
P. S. Tariffs are bogus
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Guess we all better start boarding tires now!
P. S. Tariffs are bogus
Agreed, that is why when other countries hit us with tariffs, we should reciprocate. Even the score.
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Agreed, that is why when other countries hit us with tariffs, we should reciprocate. Even the score.
What other countries? Average tariffs are low and very similar for the US, EU, Canada, and Japan. With China, there definitely are some issues, but I don't understand what the concern is with our other major trading partners. They have higher tariffs on some products, and we have higher tariffs on others, but overall there isn't a big difference when you look at the tariff per dollar of traded goods.

We do have a trade imbalance, but that's a result of consuming more and saving less than other countries, and not the result of unfair tariffs.
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What other countries? Average tariffs are low and very similar for the US, EU, Canada, and Japan. With China, there definitely are some issues, but I don't understand what the concern is with our other major trading partners. They have higher tariffs on some products, and we have higher tariffs on others, but overall there isn't a big difference when you look at the tariff per dollar of traded goods.

We do have a trade imbalance, but that's a result of consuming more and saving less than other countries, and not the result of unfair tariffs.
There are lots of instances where tariffs are vastly unbalanced. If you don't see them, you are not looking.
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There are lots of instances where tariffs are vastly unbalanced. If you don't see them, you are not looking.
Some specific tariffs are unbalanced in favor of one side or another (the US for some, another country for others), but the average tariffs are pretty balanced between the US and those countries. This is a good study:

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...o-world-2018-7
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Some specific tariffs are unbalanced in favor of one side or another (the US for some, another country for others), but the average tariffs are pretty balanced between the US and those countries. This is a good study:

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump...o-world-2018-7
Until we can eliminate all tariffs, retaliatory tariffs make sense. As for balance, I disagree.
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