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      01-17-2022, 05:58 PM   #353
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This is not an AWD car. You don't understand what this car is about. You might want to look for an electric car, they have better acceleration.
With all due respect I own a Corvette Z06 M7 so I know what its about. The Cadillac has too much power for the car design and cant compare quality with the competition. I have owned enough Caddies to know.
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AWD vs RWD. The cddy pulls hard on a M550i through 1/4, considerably higher trap speed. Blackwing is a low 11 car. M550i isn't in that league.

What is with magazines not being able to replicate BMW stated M550i 0-60 of 3.6? Car&Driver could only get 3.9. Any media been able to pull it off? The Blackwing was right there at 3.5 with rwd.

CT5 Blackwing walks M550i at drag strip and road course.
I guess I had bad information, ty for the update. I am intrigued by the power and a manual transmission but I have little faith in the quality and reliability.
The powertrain is a carryover from the prior CTS-V, expect similar reliability minus the tech issues from the older CUE infotainment which has since been replaced.
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      01-17-2022, 06:00 PM   #355
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I wish I could find one to drive so i could really comment
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I wish I could find one to drive so i could really comment
I did last week. I traded a drive in one for a drive in one of my cars.

Let's just say, probably keeping my M2C and not getting a CT4-V BW.

I posted on a Blackwing FB Group and someone responded promptly and gave me a real experience in the car.
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I did last week. I traded a drive in one for a drive in one of my cars.

Let's just say, probably keeping my M2C and not getting a CT4-V BW.
why's that?
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I did last week. I traded a drive in one for a drive in one of my cars.

Let's just say, probably keeping my M2C and not getting a CT4-V BW.

I posted on a Blackwing FB Group and someone responded promptly and gave me a real experience in the car.
Tell us more…
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I did last week. I traded a drive in one for a drive in one of my cars.

Let's just say, probably keeping my M2C and not getting a CT4-V BW.
why's that?
First, I like the slightly smaller look of the M2C and believe that it looks like a more-special car. Second, for my use case—fun MT daily driver—the M2C gives me everything I need/want in such a car. Third, there was an experience I had in the Caddy on a really rough road that almost made me a little nauseous—and I was driving. I am guessing it might have something to do with the Magniride or whatever it's called. I am guessing that my inner ear was expecting bumps from the rough road and the car's chassis did something to counteract it and it through off my inner balance or something.

Of course, all of this may just be in my head.
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First, I like the slightly smaller look of the M2C and believe that it looks like a more-special car. Second, for my use case—fun MT daily driver—the M2C gives me everything I need/want in such a car. Third, there was an experience I had in the Caddy on a really rough road that almost made me a little nauseous—and I was driving. I am guessing it might have something to do with the Magniride or whatever it's called. I am guessing that my inner ear was expecting bumps from the rough road and the car's chassis did something to counteract it and it through off my inner balance or something.

Of course, all of this may just be in my head.
Probably in your head. GM's magnetic dampers are basically the best in the business. BMW should have adopted the tech years ago. There is a reason Ferrari, Lamborghini, Audi, and Ford did. CT4 and CT5 Blackwing both have new Magneride 4.0.
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With all due respect I own a Corvette Z06 M7 so I know what its about. The Cadillac has too much power for the car design and cant compare quality with the competition. I have owned enough Caddies to know.
Cool story bro! You said that this was "typical" for Caddy, so I suppose you can show a whole bunch of examples of them making a car with "too much HP"?
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This is not an AWD car. You don't understand what this car is about. You might want to look for an electric car, they have better acceleration.
With all due respect I own a Corvette Z06 M7 so I know what its about. The Cadillac has too much power for the car design and cant compare quality with the competition. I have owned enough Caddies to know.
Says the guy with two doors :
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Cool story bro! You said that this was "typical" for Caddy, so I suppose you can show a whole bunch of examples of them making a car with "too much HP"?
How bout you go buy the Caddy and let us all know how that works out for you a year from now "bro"
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How bout you go buy the Caddy and let us all know how that works out for you a year from now "bro"
I agree with you. A big, heavy four-door sedan with so much hp should have an AWD. This is not your light, controllable and tossable GT3. They should go try out a Charger Hellcat on a wet road and see how that works for them.
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How bout you go buy the Caddy and let us all know how that works out for you a year from now "bro"
You said "typical", so I'm waiting for your examples.
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I agree with you. A big, heavy four-door sedan with so much hp should have an AWD. This is not your light, controllable and tossable GT3. They should go try out a Charger Hellcat on a wet road and see how that works for them.
You are so right I have trouble staying grounded w my z06 which has 100 plus less HP. I am sure this Caddy is a fun car or drive but needs AWD and reliability is going to be suspect. Plus Cadillac service can leave a lot to be desired at some dealerships
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Hmmm, even the most patriotic, pro-GM, anti-BMW car enthusiast should be able to see a significant difference here….
I see 3 pedals. That is significant.
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You are so right I have trouble staying grounded w my z06 which has 100 plus less HP. I am sure this Caddy is a fun car or drive but needs AWD and reliability is going to be suspect. Plus Cadillac service can leave a lot to be desired at some dealerships
As opposed to the "down-selling" of work from your typical BMW SA?
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I see 3 pedals. That is significant.
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As opposed to the "down-selling" of work from your typical BMW SA?
I hear you , I have had my share of challenges w Audi service but the American dealerships have the lowest ratings
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Actually no, that is the most hideous interior I've ever seen in an automobile; and I've owned 4 Pintos (all manuals BTW)...
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Actually no, that is the most hideous interior I've ever seen in an automobile; and I've owned 4 Pintos (all manuals BTW)...
Lol ok.

It was in response to your 3 pedals comment... but happy for you and your 4 Pintos.
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