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01-17-2020, 07:07 AM | #1 |
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*Another* Airbag Recall
Received email from the NHTSA this morning detailing another airbag recall. This is not the Takata recall, but rather a recall of that remedy. Unbelievable...
https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls?nhtsaId=20V017
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01-17-2020, 08:23 AM | #2 |
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Link does not work. Can you post a copy of the email? Have not heard of this. This is starting to sound like Honda. On some Civics, I must have replaced, or checked, the drivers airbag five times.
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01-17-2020, 09:30 AM | #3 |
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Link worked for me. Here's the key text...
January 15, 2020 NHTSA Campaign Number: 20V017000 Manufacturer BMW of North America, LLC Components AIR BAGS Potential Number of Units Affected 59,965 Summary BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2008-2013 128i and 135i Convertibles, 128i, 135i, and M Coupes, 2007-2010 X3 30si and X3 xDrive30i, 2013-2015 X1 sDrive28i, X1 xDrive28i and X1 xDrive35i, 2007-2013 328i, 328i xDrive, 335i, 335is, 335i xDrive and M3 Coupes, 2006-2011 328i, 328xi, 328i xDrive, 325i, 325xi, 330i, 330xi, 335i, 335xi, 335i xDrive and M3, 2009-2011 335D, 2006-2012 325xi, 328i, 328xi and 328i xDrive, 2010-2011 X6 ActiveHybrid, 2007-2013 328i, 335i, 335is, M3 Coupes, X5 30si, X5 xDrive30i, X5 xDrive35i, X5 48i, X5 xDrive48i, X5 xDrive50i and X5 M, 2009-2013 X5 xDrive35d and 2008-2014 X6 xDrive35i, X6 xDrive50i and X6M vehicles equipped with non-desiccated driver frontal air bag inflators containing phase stabilized ammonium nitrate (PSAN) that were used as interim remedy parts for previous Takata recalls. These inflators may explode due to propellant degradation occurring after long-term exposure to high absolute humidity, high temperatures, and high temperature cycling. Remedy BMW will notify owners, and dealers will replace the driver air bag. On X5 and X6 vehicles, only the inflator will be replaced. All repairs will be performed free of charge. The recall is expected to begin March 6, 2020. Owners may contact BMW customer service at 1-800-525-7417. Notes Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), or go to www.safercar.gov. |
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Was anyone told that this fix was temporary? I believed I was getting a brand new airbag unit as a permanent resolution to the metal-shards-shooting-into-your-throat problem. Peace... Mack
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01-17-2020, 11:50 AM | #5 |
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Makes me wonder if the first replacement was just a fresh Takata part (believing the issue degrades over time and with heat and that a fresh bag at least buys time until a better replacement is developed)? I have not heard this, but it does make me wonder...
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This last had been used in at least some of the replacements for the initial recalls, then ruptures in the 2018-2019 time period involving the second technology was confirmed resulting in this latest recall, which now involves at least some of the replacement airbags used for the initial recall. And, no, the replacement installed in my 2013 128i convertible was not described as "interim" and from what I read it wasn't intended to be interim. Instead, it's been since determined this replacement may also have a fault requiring replacement. What a massive screw up. I'm not surprised Takata has filed bankruptcy, though I am somewhat surprised they are continuing to be able to manufacture replacements. Have to wonder where the financing of this is coming from. |
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01-17-2020, 02:56 PM | #7 |
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You're not kidding. Is there a reason this won't affect the same car makers as the first recall? I'm surprised I haven't seen this in the news?
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01-18-2020, 08:50 AM | #8 |
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I'd read of this a couple of months ago, don't recall where. Didn't know until this 1/15/2020 recall that it affected BMW, but no reason for surprise in that regard.
Have no reason to think it is unique to BMW, and expect a number of car manufacturers to be affected by this second wave of recalls requiring replacment of air bags installed as replacements for this first wave of recalls. |
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Hmm I did see someone on the forums talk about this when the initial round of recalls came up. Saying that we only got brand new Takata parts instead of a true remedy.
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I think the same recall is out for my kid's E46 323Ci. That will be two complimentary crappie car washes and two chances to drive the crappy automatics they lend me as loaners.
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Gotta admit, I'm not the least bit impressed with the loaners I get. Engines awesome and smooth, especially for four bangers, but the steering is a joke, and I don't care for the 'safety' features like lane assist. Automatics? Only for heavy traffic, which I hardly see any of....
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01-18-2020, 08:37 PM | #13 |
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The recalls by Takata are exactly that - they replaced the airbag with the exact same part & design. It will affect early replacements when it started. I expect mine will need to be replaced in another year or so.
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Peace... Mack.
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https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...airbags-again/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile....0OI20Q20150602
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Look at it in a positive light. I call it BMW's newest game, airbag roulette! Win you be a loser or winner? Har har har!
I've been looking at a Porsche Macan S. I wonder what surprises Porsche might have in store for buyers? |
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What a cluster! Peace... Mack
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Vehicles recalled for drivers-side airbag replacement: 2008 through 2013 BMW 128i and 135i Convertibles and 128i, 135i, and M Coupes 2007 through 2010 BMW X3 30si and X3 xDrive30i SUVs 2013 through 2015 BMW X1 sDrive28i, X1 xDrive28i and X1 xDrive35i SUVs 2007 through 2013 BMW 328i, 328i xDrive, 335i, 335is, 335i xDrive and M3 coupes 2006 through 2011 BMW 328i, 328xi, 328i xDrive, 325i, 325xi, 330i, 330xi, 335i, 335xi, 335i xDrive and M3 sedans 2009 through 2011 BMW 335d sedans 2006 through 2012 BMW 325xi, 328i, 328xi and 328i xDrive station wagons 2007 through 2013 BMW 328i, 335i, 335is, and M3 convertibles Vehicles recalled for drivers-side airbag inflator replacement only: 2007 through 2013 BMW X5 30si, X5 xDrive30i, X5 xDrive35i, X5 48i, X5 xDrive48i, X5 xDrive50i, and X5 M SUVs 2009 through 2013 BMW X5 xDrive35d and 2008 through 2014 X6 xDrive35i, X6 xDrive50i, and X6M SUVs 2010 through 2011 BMW X6 ActiveHybrid SUVs Vehicles recalled for passenger-side airbag replacement: 2000 through 2005 BMW 323iT, 325iT, 325xiT, 320i, 323i, 325i, 325xi, 328i, 330i, and 330xi sedans, coupes, and wagons 2000 through 2006 BMW 323Ci, 325Ci, 328Ci, 330Ci, M3 Coupe, M3 Convertible, 323Cic, 325Cic, and 330Cic coupes and convertibles 2009 through 2012 BMW X5 xDrive35d diesel SUVs 2008 through 2012 BMW X6 xDrive35i, X6 xDrive50i, and X6 M SUVs 2007 through 2012 BMW X5 30si, X5 xDrive30i, X5 xDrive35i, X5 48i, X5 xDrive48i, X5 xDrive50i, and X5 M SUVs 2010 through 2011 BMW X6 ActiveHybrid SUVs Copy and pasted, sorry for any formatting issues. |
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So one of my friends got this recall notice as well for his Subaru. Interestingly, his letter explicitly mentions the final replacement (it means an interim replacement, yada, yada) will be a Non-Takata sourced inflator.
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