03-17-2012, 02:25 AM | #1 |
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How to shift efficiently
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I am new to the sport car manual transmission... I used to drive stick 4-5 years ago and I was not trying to push it to go fast. Now I have the 1M and I thought I should drive it more aggressively. So, what is the right way to do? Some say, shift up while not releasing the gas, shift fast, lift the clutch fast. Some say, build the Rev, gas up, clutch down, shift up, clutch up, gas down. |
03-17-2012, 03:03 AM | #2 |
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There is no right way. I would suggest taking your time to get to know the feel of the clutch and transmission, and how it responds to your inputs. The 1M rewards finesse, especially the 1-2 shift. It's easy to get that timing wrong and grind the tranny. Once you get your rhythm, it's one of the slickest shifting bmws out there.
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03-17-2012, 05:01 AM | #3 | |
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03-17-2012, 07:14 AM | #4 |
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what's with the noops on here with 1Ms that sound like they have never had a car before?? How to wash my car, how do I shift.... To OP take some lessons man, you can't be told how to drive a car from a forum. |
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03-17-2012, 07:36 AM | #6 |
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I've been on a lot of car forums over the years but this one is filled with more negativity and people quick to cut others down than almost any I can remember.
To the OP I suggest you ask an experienced friend or colleuge to go for a drive with you and give you some pointers. Real input while driving works best. What I can tell you is smooth is fast. Never muscle the transmission and don't worry about fractions of a second between shifts. Absolutely always lift off the throttle between shifts. Also learn to rev match as its extremely rewarding and helps with car control. Practice practice and be gentle on the equipment, you will get the hang of it! |
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03-17-2012, 08:21 AM | #7 |
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Sorry guys but the criticism is justified. The 1M just like any sports car should not be someone's first car or first 6spd(5spd) . You lack respect for the car then.
There is no excuse for not knowing the basics at this point. |
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03-17-2012, 09:52 AM | #8 | |
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what is wrong with asking "simple" questions on the forum? 10 years ago, you would ask your "experienced" friend with this sort of questions but now I thought we have a more knowledgeable, more accessible thing called FORUM. I wished for help and guidance to drive my car better 'cause I dont want to break/waste it. Please dont answer if you are just trying to show you are better than others in one way 'cause you may not in other ways and you may also need help from someone. |
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03-17-2012, 10:15 AM | #9 | |
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I know my 135i already makes me cockier than when I was driving the e46. BTW, you definitely shouldn't shift up without letting go of the gas pedal. Your revs would go up the minute you push the clutch down, and you want the revs to go down for the next gear. To shift down you may want to give it a little gas to keep the revs up. Usually you shift down when you're reducing speed (applying brakes). That technique is called Toe and Heel (or is it Heel and Toe). Google it. Whether shifting up or down, the perfect shift would match the engine revs to the revs that the target gear requires, given a particular speed. How to do that? Experience. To OP: how much does a 1M cost in China? Last edited by MPBK; 03-17-2012 at 10:21 AM.. |
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03-17-2012, 10:33 AM | #11 | |
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although I felt it is more smooth to maitain a bit gas especially from 3-4 USD 94663 in southen China, but Beijing dealer had a mock up for 10000... |
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03-17-2012, 11:07 AM | #12 | |
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It's a very smooth shifter when treated right. Also, ignore the trolls. Some people think being able to drive a stick shift makes them "driving gods". Ironically, outside of the US, almost everyone knows how to drive stick, so if you try to act high and mighty because of it, you get laughed at.
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03-17-2012, 11:12 AM | #13 | |
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USD$100K for a 1M? Are you one of the "new money" in China? In general, when shifting up, you want the revs to drop a bit. If you shift fast enough, the revs will drop just right for the next gear. That's by design. If you find that you need to give gas to maintain the revs, you're shifting too slow. You do need to give gas when shifting down. |
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03-17-2012, 12:46 PM | #15 |
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Holy cow! Lighten up, out there dudes and dudettes. It is just a car - one that happens to be a lot of fun to drive - but just a car, nonetheless. What the heck does anyone care whether this guy completely trashes the clutch learning how to drive? Clutches can be replaced. The only dumb questions are the ones that aren't asked.
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03-17-2012, 02:50 PM | #19 |
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Do I really need to answer some of these, common sense not so common?
You should not learn to drive stick on a 1M: -The car, while well built, will not take the same abuse as a lower power output car. The transmission is not made to take that kind of abuse (not pushing it hard but shifting wrong abuse) -You can make a much bigger mess of things in a higher performing car then you can in a small little Honda or something of the like. -I have serious concerns that this guy has any understanding of how an engine or transmission works. Anyone I've taught to drive a manual gets a lesson on how it works so they understand why it reacts the way it does when you do something wrong. -Its also a stupid question because you can just go out and try it, mild7 let us know how it goes when you shift without taking your foot off the gas Or just watch this... As I said before go take some lessons - that's the best advice anyone here can give - and what I said in my first post. |
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03-17-2012, 05:13 PM | #20 |
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I say use this method for everyday driving:
Some say, build the Rev, gas up, clutch down, shift up, clutch up, gas down. As you get used to the car you will find what method works best for you
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03-17-2012, 08:07 PM | #21 |
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Im not on either side of this argument, its a free market anyone can buy any car they desire regardless of experience. If a billionaire 12 year old wants to buy a Pagani more power to him.
To the OP for what its worth the 1M happens to be a very nice setup for easy shifting both the gearbox and clutch are smooth, so much so if someone was sitting in your passenger seat for along drive they shouldn't be able to easily tell your manually shifting. Some cars have finicky clutches or very notchy gearboxes which makes consistent smooth shifts much harder. I cant tell you how to shift because everyone has different driving styles but a quick tip just take the 1st into 2nd a little slower than the 3,4,5 etc. Most horrible stick drivers I know rush 1st into 2nd and never get a smooth shift. If your accelerating slowly from a stop theres no need to bang gears. |
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03-17-2012, 08:26 PM | #22 | |
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robertm had a good post on this topic here:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...5#post11186965 Quote:
http://www.turnfast.com/tech_driving/driving_shifting Enjoy your 1M! |
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