e8x electric waterpump failure poll...

pj.rodriguez · 01-13-2014, 05:26 PM

I'm at 135000 Km or ~84000 miles. So far, so good, but I'm actually unsure if I have the original waterpump since I bought the car used in June. It's a 2008. It's been mine since June 2013.

Dackelone · 01-13-2014, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pj.rodriguez

I'm at 135000 Km or ~84000 miles. So far, so good, but I'm actually unsure if I have the original waterpump since I bought the car used in June. It's a 2008. It's been mine since June 2013.

You can go to any BMW dealer and they can look up the service record for you. I think your's must have been replaced before.

Dack

pj.rodriguez · 01-13-2014, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

You can go to any BMW dealer and they can look up the service record for you. I think your's must have been replaced before.

Dack

Who knows? I can tell the previous owner was not a true enthusiast and maybe not even a car person. But I'll go to a dealer and ask them to bring it up to see if it has been done!

cheshirecat79 · 01-14-2014, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

Yea... I think you are on borrowed time too. What year is your 1er?

2008. Honestly, I'm very surprised it hasn't gone out. I look at it as a maintenance part- I would push any owner to change theirs every 60k to be safe. As I'm going a little longer, I'm changing the hoses for the pump also at the same time.

If I were writing the maintenance schedule, I'd so the level 1 cooling system maintenance (water pump, thermostat) at 60k and a level 2 (add radiator and hoses) at 120.

skyjump · 01-16-2014, 07:57 PM

08 N54 failed at 60k

Rockstar1487 · 02-07-2014, 10:03 AM

63500 still rolling…but I am going to change it this coming week for safe measure.

SlickShift · 02-12-2014, 07:56 PM

I was really hoping mine would last another year but it failed me on Sunday morning.

2009 / April 2009 ______70K______cost me $1000_______N54

JHZR2 · 02-12-2014, 08:49 PM

This is scary. Has the part been updated/upgraded after 2008/9?

Do we have a DIY for replacement? It will take me a LONG time to rack this many miles up but still, something to think about. $1500 for a full cooling service plus pump is rather excessive.

mrh1965 · 02-12-2014, 09:35 PM

2009 128, 45,000 miles, still on original

Dackelone · 02-13-2014, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JHZR2

This is scary. Has the part been updated/upgraded after 2008/9?

Do we have a DIY for replacement? It will take me a LONG time to rack this many miles up but still, something to think about. $1500 for a full cooling service plus pump is rather excessive.

Yes, I believe BMW has changed the vendor and design. Just look at this survey... from 2010 the failure rates are much lower. But still there.

Also... there are many places selling OE pumps(and electronic thermostats) for around $600(discounted). And there are a few places selling OEM for around $500. Most shops seem to charge around one to two hours labor.

There has been one DIY here on 1Addicts that I remember. IF you search over on the e90forum you will find many more DIY's for the waterpump.

JHZR2 · 02-13-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

Yes, I believe BMW has changed the vendor and design. Just look at this survey... from 2010 the failure rates are much lower. But still there.

Also... there are many places selling OE pumps(and electronic thermostats) for around $600(discounted). And there are a few places selling OEM for around $500. Most shops seem to charge around one to two hours labor.

There has been one DIY here on 1Addicts that I remember. IF you search over on the e90forum you will find many more DIY's for the waterpump.

Thanks. I attributed the differences possibly to lower overall miles on the newer cars... Don't know I can read anything statistical into it yet... But let's hope!!

Ill look for the DIY on E90, but is it going to be similar? Id imagine the 1er will be a LOT tighter for one thing... Not sure if what/how to remove stuff will be the same???

Bmer Otto · 02-14-2014, 08:51 AM

2011 135i - Just broke 130k on the original water pump

Otto

Canefan · 02-14-2014, 09:08 AM

I had previously responded to the poll that the pump was fine on my 2008 at about 40k miles. Then 2 weeks ago, my pump failed with about 43K on the clock. Left me stranded on the side of the road on a cold rainy morning on the way to work. Had the extended warranty and it was fixed and back in my hands after about 3 days. This was the 1st time a BMW (I've owned 5, including 2 M3's) has left me stranded.

tim3113 · 02-19-2014, 11:12 AM

38000 on an 08 pump went last night. what a pain!

Syclone · 02-24-2014, 12:29 PM

64,500 miles Original pump still working fine. 2008 135i N54

bluebimmer135 · 03-02-2014, 12:08 PM

2009 135i, 58K, failed a week ago, cost of repair: over $1200 in NJ, out of warranty, seriously considering getting rid of within a year before anything else hits.

mleskovar · 03-02-2014, 12:37 PM

389 responses and not a single 128 failure.....although not a lot of 128s reported.

JHZR2 · 03-02-2014, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mleskovar

389 responses and not a single 128 failure.....although not a lot of 128s reported.

Wonder if the 128 runs as high water temperature.

My Saab and Chevy truck runs water temp around 182F in normal use... My 135 is more like 220F. The fact that normal use is above boiling temperature (not adjusted for pressurization).

Canefan · 03-02-2014, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Syclone

64,500 miles Original pump still working fine. 2008 135i N54

That's what I would call a ticking time bomb. I would get it replaced ASAP before it fails and leaves you stranded on the side of the road. You don't really get a warning that it's going, it just....goes. You're on borrowed time my friend.

mleskovar · 03-02-2014, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JHZR2

Wonder if the 128 runs as high water temperature....My Saab and Chevy truck runs water temp around 182F in normal use... My 135 is more like 220F. The fact that normal use is above boiling temperature (not adjusted for pressurization).

You're probably guessing right on. No temp gauge in the 128 so I don't know what mine runs at

Other than temperature I can't think of another reason to attribute the difference in failures.

delta-9-ginseng · 03-15-2014, 03:47 AM

Is there a way to check the integrity of the water-pump on a 135i? I have 2008 135i with 38,000?

Many thanks!

Cozy · 03-15-2014, 04:58 AM

2008 135i, N54, 30k, waterpump failed while in traffic.

A part of the housing broke up and jammed the impeller.

Goodwill replacement, with parts cost only (free labour) = £500GBP; would have been £1000GBP with labour.

Previous to the fail the car threw a code relating to deviations in waterpump speed.

View Poll Results: I own a...
2008 model and the waterpump failed.	176	14.05%
2008 model and the waterpump is ok.	194	15.48%
2009 model and the waterpump failed.	65	5.19%
2009 model and the waterpump is ok.	195	15.56%
2010 model and the waterpump failed.	18	1.44%
2010 model and the waterpump is ok.	87	6.94%
2011 model and the waterpump failed.	73	5.83%
2011 model and the waterpump is ok.	172	13.73%
2012 model and the waterpump failed.	52	4.15%
2012 model and the waterpump is ok.	103	8.22%
2013 model and the waterpump failed.	23	1.84%
2013 model and the waterpump is ok.	95	7.58%
Voters: 1253. You may not vote on this poll

01-13-2014, 05:26 PM	#155
pj.rodriguez Lieutenant Colonel 84 Rep 1,623 Posts Drives: Alpine White 128i Cabrio Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada iTrader: (9) Garage List 2008 BMW 128i E88 [9.00]	I'm at 135000 Km or ~84000 miles. So far, so good, but I'm actually unsure if I have the original waterpump since I bought the car used in June. It's a 2008. It's been mine since June 2013. __________________ 2008 128i E88 / Alpine White / Boston Leather Sport / 6AT / M3 Paddle Shifters / Bilstein B8 / H&R Springs / Dinan Fixed Camber Plates / BMW 335i Front Brakes / PIAA Xtreme White 4150K Angel Eyes / Rear Fogs Enabled / Cyba Air Scoops / Euro Airbox / BMW Performance Exhaust / Stubby BMW Antenna
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01-16-2014, 07:57 PM	#159
skyjump New Member 0 Rep 17 Posts Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: TX/NC iTrader: (0)	08 N54 failed at 60k
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02-07-2014, 10:03 AM	#160
Rockstar1487 Tarnished One 76 Rep 362 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Central, New Jersey iTrader: (2)	63500 still rolling…but I am going to change it this coming week for safe measure. __________________ 09 LMB M3 Retired: 05 MB 330i, 08 CS 135i, 17 EB M240i, 13 CB 135is, 16 ABM M4
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02-12-2014, 07:56 PM	#161
SlickShift Lieutenant Colonel 323 Rep 1,804 Posts Drives: '11 BMW E90 M3 ZCP, '21 X5 ZMP Join Date: May 2007 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (7)	I was really hoping mine would last another year but it failed me on Sunday morning. 2009 / April 2009 ______70K______cost me $1000_______N54 __________________ -Nick 2018 BMW 440i - M Sport, Exec Glacier Silver Metallic/Coral Red Dakota Retired: '00 323i, '06 325Ci, '09 135i, '06 Z4M Roadster, '93 525i, '76 2002, '14 X1, '14 M235i, '16 X4, '16 435i
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02-12-2014, 08:49 PM	#162
JHZR2 Major 74 Rep 1,001 Posts Drives: 91 E30, 11 135i cv Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	This is scary. Has the part been updated/upgraded after 2008/9? Do we have a DIY for replacement? It will take me a LONG time to rack this many miles up but still, something to think about. $1500 for a full cooling service plus pump is rather excessive.
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02-12-2014, 09:35 PM	#163
mrh1965 New Member 0 Rep 15 Posts Drives: 2009 128i Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Houston iTrader: (0)	2009 128, 45,000 miles, still on original
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02-14-2014, 08:51 AM	#166
Bmer Otto New Member 3 Rep 9 Posts Drives: 2011 135 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: MI iTrader: (0)	2011 135i - Just broke 130k on the original water pump Otto
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02-14-2014, 09:08 AM	#167
Canefan Private 15 Rep 94 Posts Drives: 2008 Monaco Blue 135i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Atlanta GA iTrader: (0)	I had previously responded to the poll that the pump was fine on my 2008 at about 40k miles. Then 2 weeks ago, my pump failed with about 43K on the clock. Left me stranded on the side of the road on a cold rainy morning on the way to work. Had the extended warranty and it was fixed and back in my hands after about 3 days. This was the 1st time a BMW (I've owned 5, including 2 M3's) has left me stranded.
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02-19-2014, 11:12 AM	#168
tim3113 Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: London iTrader: (0)	38000 on an 08 pump went last night. what a pain!
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02-24-2014, 12:29 PM	#169
Syclone New Member 5 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 135i E88 Cnvt Mblue Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Lake Wylie, SC iTrader: (0)	64,500 miles Original pump still working fine. 2008 135i N54
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03-02-2014, 12:08 PM	#170
bluebimmer135 New Member 0 Rep 19 Posts Drives: 2009 Motego Blue 135i Coupe Join Date: May 2009 Location: Belleville, NJ iTrader: (0)	2009 135i, 58K, failed a week ago, cost of repair: over $1200 in NJ, out of warranty, seriously considering getting rid of within a year before anything else hits.
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03-02-2014, 12:37 PM	#171
mleskovar Lieutenant 79 Rep 435 Posts Drives: '18 230i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Huntington Beach, CA iTrader: (0)	389 responses and not a single 128 failure.....although not a lot of 128s reported.
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03-15-2014, 03:47 AM	#175
delta-9-ginseng OG Tray Deee 82 Rep 261 Posts Drives: BMW 135i & F36 435i Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: LA and SF iTrader: (0)	Is there a way to check the integrity of the water-pump on a 135i? I have 2008 135i with 38,000? Many thanks!
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03-15-2014, 04:58 AM	#176
Cozy Major 111 Rep 1,487 Posts Drives: E82 135i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Surrey, England iTrader: (0)	2008 135i, N54, 30k, waterpump failed while in traffic. A part of the housing broke up and jammed the impeller. Goodwill replacement, with parts cost only (free labour) = £500GBP; would have been £1000GBP with labour. Previous to the fail the car threw a code relating to deviations in waterpump speed.
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