The TireRack Winter Product Bible

boxerdog · 01-18-2009, 04:19 PM

My girl took a bath today and here she has her winter shoes on. Thanks to Tire Rack for the great service. I got the KM11 with Dunlops 3D in 17".:thumbup:

This is the first time that I show her in the forum...

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2714.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2715.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...CIMG2711-1.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2709.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2710.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2711.jpg

boxerdog · 01-18-2009, 04:19 PM

Do you think I should replace the center caps for BMW ones?

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxerdog

My girl took a bath today and here she has her winter shoes on. Thanks to Tire Rack for the great service. I got the KM11 with Dunlops 3D in 17".:thumbup:

This is the first time that I show her in the forum...

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2714.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2715.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...CIMG2711-1.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2709.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2710.jpg
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2711.jpg

robboblobbo · 01-18-2009, 07:11 PM

Absolutely need BMW caps!

ZIPNBYE · 01-18-2009, 08:14 PM

Yes!...you need oem caps...and they're a direct fitment to the Sport Edition wheels, as they use the same centre-bore diameter (handy that...no hub-centric rings required either!).

United BMW -- a forum sponsor -- has them the cheapest at $4.50 each (Tire Rack is either $8 or $9 each...can't recall -- I bought mine with my wheels) http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...catalogid=6218

boxerdog · 01-18-2009, 09:41 PM

Thanks ZIPNBYE, I just order them $18 bucks it's not a bad deal. Thank you ....:w00t: I should receive them in 3 days...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZIPNBYE

Yes!...you need oem caps...and they're a direct fitment to the Sport Edition wheels, as they use the same centre-bore diameter (handy that...no hub-cic rings required either!).

United BMW -- a forum sponsor -- has them the cheapest at $4.50 each (Tire Rack is either $8 or $9 each...can't recall -- I bought mine with my wheels) http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...catalogid=6218

robboblobbo · 01-19-2009, 06:06 AM

Will need new pictures with the caps!

Luvmybmw · 01-19-2009, 08:50 AM

Don't see the KM11 in 17" on the TireRack website???

Are the Sport Edition F10s a 'good' wheel? They are quoted with a weight of 20.5 lbs. I was really thinking about going to 17" wheels/tires? Thoughts...

boxerdog · 01-19-2009, 11:35 AM

A week after I got mine, I damage one of them in a curb. I went back to the TireRack website and they were gone... so, I e-mail them and they did have them so I bought a replacement for my damage wheel... Try contacting Gill. They may have them in stock...other places have them at a much higher price...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luvmybmw

Don't see the KM11 in 17" on the TireRack website???

Are the Sport Edition F10s a 'good' wheel? They are quoted with a weight of 20.5 lbs. I was really thinking about going to 17" wheels/tires? Thoughts...

ZIPNBYE · 01-19-2009, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luvmybmw

Are the Sport Edition F10s a 'good' wheel? They are quoted with a weight of 20.5 lbs. I was really thinking about going to 17" wheels/tires? Thoughts...

I like mine a lot. I've got the ones with the black paint / machined finish and they are outstanding in terms of look.

boxerdog · 01-20-2009, 10:43 PM

will do as soon as I get them..

Quote:

Originally Posted by robboblobbo

Will need new pictures with the caps!

pit1 · 01-23-2009, 11:45 AM

Just a shameless plug for Gill and TireRack and their terrific customer service. I purchased a winter wheel/tire set...it arrived promptly and I installed (first time ever) with no problems. I drove around for a few weeks with an occasional shake and vibration. A re-balancing revealed three needed slight corrections. Gill quickly credited my account to offset the costs of having the affected wheels rebalanced. Thanks Gill...you'll continue to have mine and my family's business.

Cheers

EngPhys09 · 07-15-2009, 09:49 AM

I anyone running Steelies?
Anyone know if you can fit a 16 inch steel on a 128i?

EngPhys09 · 07-15-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

Is this a good idea? Or am I just crazy?

I don't like the idea of running allows in the winter, snow tends to clump within the rim and can cause large virbations through the suspension.

Also genearlly you want a snow tire to be taller and more narrow then the OEM tire.
Having a more narrow tire allows it to plow through the snow easier and taller makes the tires softer allowing them to move more. Better traction

Evice · 07-15-2009, 10:08 AM

my 1st winter is ahead of me and I was thinking of picking up the following:
Goodyear Eagle Ultra Grip GW3
205/50R16 - All around

What do you guys think about this tire? In Columbus, OH it rarely snows and not really more then 2-3 inch in the same day.

allies_jh · 07-15-2009, 11:22 AM

Federal Himalaya WS2's
205/50/17

These are on some mesh type alloy wheels. I didn't have any problems with snow being stuck in the rim causing vibrations.

If you have a 128i with the upgraded brakes (135i brakes), then you'll need at least a 17" rim. But if you just have the regular brakes, I think 16's will fit.

Blue82 · 08-24-2009, 03:44 PM

Gill:

Will Tirerack be offering any new winter packages for the 135i? Also, will you be updating the first post of this thread? For instance, I'd love to see an updated list of wheels that take the BMW center caps.

Gary@TireRack · 08-25-2009, 11:07 AM

Yes, there are a few new wheel offerings. The easiet way to see them all is to click the "shop now" link at the top of the page, follow the vehicle prompts, and select winter product.
The wheels listed in the first post are still correct, if we find any other wheels that accept them they will be noted.

ARES45 · 09-05-2009, 02:15 PM

Hey Gill,I wanted to get your opinion on what I think I will be doing for my winter/summer set-up.* I was thinking about making the OEM wheels into my winter wheels using the LM-25's for tires.* I think they will suffice as I am told that here in CO Springs the do a decent job of clearing roads of snow.* I was then going to purchase the GTS-R's for next summer with a non-runflat performance tire when next summer hits (I will be deployed, but the wife will still be using the bimmer every now and then).* I will then just keep that rotation with wheels and tires.* I know the 18 inch OEMs are not ideal for winter but they should do the job well enough don't you think?* Two additional questions would be what size would you recomend for the winters on the OEM?* I had seen 225/40/18 in other posts, is that the best on OEM's?* Also, does tirerack do any military discount or specials?* Thanks for all the help,Kyle

RWD FUN · 09-18-2009, 10:48 AM

Gill

Looking through this thread I didn't see any pics of the KM11's you have. Did you post pics anywhere else, Can you post pics here if not? Deciding between A7, F10 and KM11's. Are the KM11's still avaliable. They aren't listed on the website. The WS-60's & X-ice's are better in heavy snow/ice than the D3's correct? It looks like the X-ice are better than the WS-60's and cheaper at least in 205's. Any reason you went with the WS-60's

Thanks
RWD FUN

Gary@TireRack · 09-18-2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue82

Gill:

Will Tirerack be offering any new winter packages for the 135i? Also, will you be updating the first post of this thread? For instance, I'd love to see an updated list of wheels that take the BMW center caps.

I have updated the list of wheels with BMW caps. Good news! All the Elbrus wheels take them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWD FUN

Gill

Looking through this thread I didn't see any pics of the KM11's you have. Did you post pics anywhere else, Can you post pics here if not? Deciding between A7, F10 and KM11's. Are the KM11's still avaliable. They aren't listed on the website. The WS-60's & X-ice's are better in heavy snow/ice than the D3's correct? It looks like the X-ice are better than the WS-60's and cheaper at least in 205's. Any reason you went with the WS-60's

Thanks
RWD FUN

KM11's sold out last year and won't return for this season.

Gill

Blue82 · 09-18-2009, 07:01 PM

Thanks for the update Gill!

Evice · 09-19-2009, 06:41 AM

Hey Gill,

I am a little confused here, hope you can help. I have 2009 128i with msports wheels (M DOUBLE SPOKE 207 I believe)

I currently have Pirelli Pzero RFTs on them for summer, and I want to buy Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25 RFT for winter. Because next summer I will get new wheels.

Confusing part: Althought Bridgestone tire comes with front: 205/50R17 and back:225/45R17 which are the current sizes on my Pirelli's when I select and set my vehicle from the site, it doesn't offer me this particular product and size. But I am able to browse them if I go thru the Brand selection search..

It is my 1st time buying tires to my car, and I do not wanna screw it up. Do you think this winter tire will fit my current msport wheels?

I hope you can shed some light on this.

Thanks!

01-18-2009, 04:19 PM	#111
boxerdog Private First Class 11 Rep 117 Posts Drives: Black Saphire 135i Spt & Prem Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Minneapolis iTrader: (0)	My girl took a bath today and here she has her winter shoes on. Thanks to Tire Rack for the great service. I got the KM11 with Dunlops 3D in 17".:thumbup: This is the first time that I show her in the forum... http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2714.jpg http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2715.jpg http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...CIMG2711-1.jpg http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2709.jpg http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2710.jpg http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/r...g/CIMG2711.jpg
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01-18-2009, 07:11 PM	#113
robboblobbo Throbbing Member 0 Rep 38 Posts Drives: Join Date: Sep 2008 iTrader: (0)	Absolutely need BMW caps! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] '08 135i Coupexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cashmere Silver Metallic • Premium Package • Cold Weather Package • Sport Package • Auto / Paddle Shifters • iDrive / Nav • Comfort Access • iPod / USB • HD Radio
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ZIPNBYE Let's save military ranks for those who earn it! 45 Rep 1,161 Posts Drives: ...on the Ragged Edge Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada iTrader: (6) Garage List 2013 BMW e92 M3 Cou ... [7.50] 2013 BMW e84 X1 xDr ... [7.00]	Yes!...you need oem caps...and they're a direct fitment to the Sport Edition wheels, as they use the same centre-bore diameter (handy that...no hub-centric rings required either!). United BMW -- a forum sponsor -- has them the cheapest at $4.50 each (Tire Rack is either $8 or $9 each...can't recall -- I bought mine with my wheels) http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...catalogid=6218 __________________ Richard 2013 BMW M3 Individual -- Fire Orange (sold) 2013 BMW X1 xDrive35i M-Sport -- Valencia Orange (sold) 2011 BMW 1-series M Coupe (#205/220) -- Valencia Orange (sold) 2009 BMW 135i M-Sport Coupe -- Space Grey (sold)
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01-19-2009, 06:06 AM	#116
robboblobbo Throbbing Member 0 Rep 38 Posts Drives: Join Date: Sep 2008 iTrader: (0)	Will need new pictures with the caps! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] '08 135i Coupexxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cashmere Silver Metallic • Premium Package • Cold Weather Package • Sport Package • Auto / Paddle Shifters • iDrive / Nav • Comfort Access • iPod / USB • HD Radio
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01-19-2009, 08:50 AM	#117
Luvmybmw One Fast 1 53 Rep 747 Posts Drives: '08 AW e82 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana iTrader: (2)	Don't see the KM11 in 17" on the TireRack website??? Are the Sport Edition F10s a 'good' wheel? They are quoted with a weight of 20.5 lbs. I was really thinking about going to 17" wheels/tires? Thoughts... __________________
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01-23-2009, 11:45 AM	#121
pit1 Captain 239 Rep 790 Posts Drives: F87 M2 Join Date: May 2008 Location: It's always Sunny... iTrader: (1)	Just a shameless plug for Gill and TireRack and their terrific customer service. I purchased a winter wheel/tire set...it arrived promptly and I installed (first time ever) with no problems. I drove around for a few weeks with an occasional shake and vibration. A re-balancing revealed three needed slight corrections. Gill quickly credited my account to offset the costs of having the affected wheels rebalanced. Thanks Gill...you'll continue to have mine and my family's business. Cheers
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07-15-2009, 09:49 AM	#122
EngPhys09 Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 214 Posts Drives: 09 128i SRM Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Hamilton, Ontario iTrader: (0)	I anyone running Steelies? Anyone know if you can fit a 16 inch steel on a 128i?
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07-15-2009, 10:08 AM	#124
Evice Major 194 Rep 1,457 Posts Drives: E92M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere here iTrader: (1)	my 1st winter is ahead of me and I was thinking of picking up the following: Goodyear Eagle Ultra Grip GW3 205/50R16 - All around What do you guys think about this tire? In Columbus, OH it rarely snows and not really more then 2-3 inch in the same day. __________________ My Track Videos
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07-15-2009, 11:22 AM	#125
allies_jh Dr. J 26 Rep 175 Posts Drives: BMW M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Calgary iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 135i [0.00]	Federal Himalaya WS2's 205/50/17 These are on some mesh type alloy wheels. I didn't have any problems with snow being stuck in the rim causing vibrations. If you have a 128i with the upgraded brakes (135i brakes), then you'll need at least a 17" rim. But if you just have the regular brakes, I think 16's will fit. __________________ MG M3 6MT
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08-24-2009, 03:44 PM	#126
Blue82 Enlisted Member 1 Rep 32 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Coupe Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Washington, DC iTrader: (0)	Gill: Will Tirerack be offering any new winter packages for the 135i? Also, will you be updating the first post of this thread? For instance, I'd love to see an updated list of wheels that take the BMW center caps.
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08-25-2009, 11:07 AM	#127
Gary@TireRack Moderator 369 Rep 4,745 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	Yes, there are a few new wheel offerings. The easiet way to see them all is to click the "shop now" link at the top of the page, follow the vehicle prompts, and select winter product. The wheels listed in the first post are still correct, if we find any other wheels that accept them they will be noted. __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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09-05-2009, 02:15 PM	#128
ARES45 Major 34 Rep 1,002 Posts Drives: Join Date: Oct 2007 iTrader: (0)	Hey Gill,I wanted to get your opinion on what I think I will be doing for my winter/summer set-up.* I was thinking about making the OEM wheels into my winter wheels using the LM-25's for tires.* I think they will suffice as I am told that here in CO Springs the do a decent job of clearing roads of snow.* I was then going to purchase the GTS-R's for next summer with a non-runflat performance tire when next summer hits (I will be deployed, but the wife will still be using the bimmer every now and then).* I will then just keep that rotation with wheels and tires.* I know the 18 inch OEMs are not ideal for winter but they should do the job well enough don't you think?* Two additional questions would be what size would you recomend for the winters on the OEM?* I had seen 225/40/18 in other posts, is that the best on OEM's?* Also, does tirerack do any military discount or specials?* Thanks for all the help,Kyle __________________ "Don't run, you'll only die tired" ~ Gunship Pilot
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09-18-2009, 10:48 AM	#129
RWD FUN Private 8 Rep 56 Posts Drives: Join Date: Apr 2008 iTrader: (0)	Gill Looking through this thread I didn't see any pics of the KM11's you have. Did you post pics anywhere else, Can you post pics here if not? Deciding between A7, F10 and KM11's. Are the KM11's still avaliable. They aren't listed on the website. The WS-60's & X-ice's are better in heavy snow/ice than the D3's correct? It looks like the X-ice are better than the WS-60's and cheaper at least in 205's. Any reason you went with the WS-60's Thanks RWD FUN
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09-18-2009, 07:01 PM	#131
Blue82 Enlisted Member 1 Rep 32 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Coupe Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Washington, DC iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the update Gill!
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09-19-2009, 06:41 AM	#132
Evice Major 194 Rep 1,457 Posts Drives: E92M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere here iTrader: (1)	Hey Gill, I am a little confused here, hope you can help. I have 2009 128i with msports wheels (M DOUBLE SPOKE 207 I believe) I currently have Pirelli Pzero RFTs on them for summer, and I want to buy Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25 RFT for winter. Because next summer I will get new wheels. Confusing part: Althought Bridgestone tire comes with front: 205/50R17 and back:225/45R17 which are the current sizes on my Pirelli's when I select and set my vehicle from the site, it doesn't offer me this particular product and size. But I am able to browse them if I go thru the Brand selection search.. It is my 1st time buying tires to my car, and I do not wanna screw it up. Do you think this winter tire will fit my current msport wheels? I hope you can shed some light on this. Thanks! __________________ My Track Videos Last edited by Evice; 09-19-2009 at 06:42 AM.. Reason: Clarification.
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