Petition to drop front plate requirement

former · 02-28-2009, 08:46 AM

Turns out that there are 20 states in the U.S. that do not require front plates. There is a petition to encourage the state of California to do the same:

http://www.petitiononline.com/caplate/petition.html

I've already done my duty and encourage others to do the same.

Papethova · 02-28-2009, 10:23 AM

That will never happen. Too many communities are going the traffic light camera route and they need the front plate for the picture. Also, if you hadn't realized the plate is the most reflective part of the car, so cops can aim the laser right at the plate and get a nice strong return signal. Id guess it helps on radar too although its not so aimable.

Papethova · 02-28-2009, 10:26 AM

I just read the petition, other than cost savings those are petty reasons. If anything they should try the "it blocks the radiator air flow and can cause the car to over heat"

That actually is true on one of my cars.

Jewpac · 03-02-2009, 06:27 PM

Not gonna happen. Any cost savings associated with only prionting one plate will be more than offset by the lack of red light camera ticket revenue plus no front plate ticket revenue.

Mega Man · 03-04-2009, 02:02 PM

while we're on this topic, did your car come with holes in the front bumper for a front license plate? Mine did not.

Jewpac · 03-04-2009, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mega Man

while we're on this topic, did your car come with holes in the front bumper for a front license plate? Mine did not.

No, but that was at my request.

xbook · 03-04-2009, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mega Man

while we're on this topic, did your car come with holes in the front bumper for a front license plate? Mine did not.

Mega,

if your 1er didn't come with holes, PM me and I'l let ya know how to fix it.

-J

Mega Man · 03-04-2009, 05:33 PM

I don't want holes in my front bumper, thanks thanks though, xbook.

It's not a good excuse, but if I ever do get a fix-it ticket for no front license plate, perhaps the cop will buy into it.

I also prefer the way it looks without the front license plate.

All of my previous cars didn't have front license plates, and I was never pulled over for it. My GF however, who has really bad luck with the police and driving in general, has gotten a ticket for no front plate.

lolo419 · 03-04-2009, 06:07 PM

So far I got 2 fix ticket with no front plate all at LAX

(motorcycle cops). Now I just drive my old civic with my front plate to LAX.

Dangerlucas · 03-04-2009, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mega Man

I don't want holes in my front bumper, thanks thanks though, xbook.

It's not a good excuse, but if I ever do get a fix-it ticket for no front license plate, perhaps the cop will buy into it.

I also prefer the way it looks without the front license plate.

All of my previous cars didn't have front license plates, and I was never pulled over for it. My GF however, who has really bad luck with the police and driving in general, has gotten a ticket for no front plate.

I tried the no holes excuse this morning and I'm sorry to say it didn't work. I need to get one of those brackets that mounts into the tow hook now, because there is no way I'm drilling holes in my bumper.

xbook · 03-04-2009, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mega Man

I don't want holes in my front bumper, thanks thanks though, xbook.

It's not a good excuse, but if I ever do get a fix-it ticket for no front license plate, perhaps the cop will buy into it.

I also prefer the way it looks without the front license plate.

All of my previous cars didn't have front license plates, and I was never pulled over for it. My GF however, who has really bad luck with the police and driving in general, has gotten a ticket for no front plate.

What you need is the tow hook lic. plate mount. No holes, dude. Check out some of my pictures, you can see it on my car.

-J

former · 03-05-2009, 12:00 AM

I bought one of these:

http://www.skene.org/bmw/plate/

There's some drilling, but it's underneath rather than on the front. Personally, I don't like the offset plate look.

Papethova · 03-05-2009, 11:36 AM

If anyone knows someone who works at a BMW dealership I think I can get a way around this front plate thing for all of us.

PM me if you have a contact in the parts dept.

Dangerlucas · 03-05-2009, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbook

What you need is the tow hook lic. plate mount. No holes, dude. Check out some of my pictures, you can see it on my car.

-J

Where did you get yours?

Mega Man · 03-05-2009, 12:17 PM

Y'know, honestly, I wouldn't worry about not having a front license plate until you get ticketed for it. My previous cars never had any front plates, and I was never ticketed. I believe it's only a $15 fix-it ticket, at which point you could find a temporary mounting solution, show it to a law enforcement office, pay your $15 fine, and then later remove it again.

xbook · 03-05-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dangerlucas

Where did you get yours?

No Holes Lic. Plate Bracket

I had purchased this for my MINI a couple years back. When I traded the MINI in for the 1er, I just unscrewed it from the MINI, let it sit in my garage 'til the new plates came, then screwed it onto the 1er. Direct swap.

Dangerlucas · 03-05-2009, 12:22 PM

Yeah, I wasn't worried about it until yesterday when I did get a ticket. It's $75 if you just pay it off and $10 if you fix it.

And I'm sure it depends on the cop signing off on it, but I don't think they like it if you just zip tie the thing on there. I'd really like to pick up one of those tow hook ones, but I can't seem to find a place that has them in stock.

Dangerlucas · 03-05-2009, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbook

No Holes Lic. Plate Bracket

I had purchased this for my MINI a couple years back. When I traded the MINI in for the 1er, I just unscrewed it from the MINI, let it sit in my garage 'til the new plates came, then screwed it onto the 1er. Direct swap.

Sweet thanks.

02-28-2009, 08:46 AM	#1
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Papethova Banned 225 Rep 3,094 Posts Drives: '08 135/ '11 1M Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: at Death Valley 127 iTrader: (1)	That will never happen. Too many communities are going the traffic light camera route and they need the front plate for the picture. Also, if you hadn't realized the plate is the most reflective part of the car, so cops can aim the laser right at the plate and get a nice strong return signal. Id guess it helps on radar too although its not so aimable.
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Papethova Banned 225 Rep 3,094 Posts Drives: '08 135/ '11 1M Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: at Death Valley 127 iTrader: (1)	I just read the petition, other than cost savings those are petty reasons. If anything they should try the "it blocks the radiator air flow and can cause the car to over heat" That actually is true on one of my cars.
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03-02-2009, 06:27 PM	#4
Jewpac Marty Turco Hater 37 Rep 768 Posts Drives: Join Date: Feb 2008 iTrader: (0)	Not gonna happen. Any cost savings associated with only prionting one plate will be more than offset by the lack of red light camera ticket revenue plus no front plate ticket revenue. __________________ 135i, Alpine White, Taupe Leatherette, iPod USB adaptor, 6MT Delivery Wednesday 5/7
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Mega Man エアーマンが倒せない 271 Rep 2,041 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00]	I don't want holes in my front bumper, thanks thanks though, xbook. It's not a good excuse, but if I ever do get a fix-it ticket for no front license plate, perhaps the cop will buy into it. I also prefer the way it looks without the front license plate. All of my previous cars didn't have front license plates, and I was never pulled over for it. My GF however, who has really bad luck with the police and driving in general, has gotten a ticket for no front plate. __________________ 1ADDICT \| Black Shadowline Grills \| KW V2 \| CP-E Tow-Hook Plate \| CP-E Catback Exhaust \| Tow-Hook \| Evolution Racewerks Intercooler \| ER Charge Pipe \| HKS SQV IV \| ER Intercooler Shroud \| BMS Oil Catch Can \| COBB Access Port \| APEX ARC-8 \| EAS OE Performance Brake Upgrade \| SLeK Carbon Fiber Hood \|
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lolo419 Private 1 Rep 68 Posts Drives: 2009 AW 135i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	So far I got 2 fix ticket with no front plate all at LAX (motorcycle cops). Now I just drive my old civic with my front plate to LAX.
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former Practical Idealist 9 Rep 408 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Coupe Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Greater Los Angeles Area iTrader: (0)	I bought one of these: http://www.skene.org/bmw/plate/ There's some drilling, but it's underneath rather than on the front. Personally, I don't like the offset plate look. __________________ -f 2009 135 6MT Montego Blue Coupe, Sport, Prem, Cold, Nav, CA, iPod, Smartphone \| Euro Delivery on 10/25/2008
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Mega Man エアーマンが倒せない 271 Rep 2,041 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00]	Y'know, honestly, I wouldn't worry about not having a front license plate until you get ticketed for it. My previous cars never had any front plates, and I was never ticketed. I believe it's only a $15 fix-it ticket, at which point you could find a temporary mounting solution, show it to a law enforcement office, pay your $15 fine, and then later remove it again. __________________ 1ADDICT \| Black Shadowline Grills \| KW V2 \| CP-E Tow-Hook Plate \| CP-E Catback Exhaust \| Tow-Hook \| Evolution Racewerks Intercooler \| ER Charge Pipe \| HKS SQV IV \| ER Intercooler Shroud \| BMS Oil Catch Can \| COBB Access Port \| APEX ARC-8 \| EAS OE Performance Brake Upgrade \| SLeK Carbon Fiber Hood \|
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