Burger Motorsports (BMS) Oil Catch Can for N55 engines. Bullshit or not?

[Chunner]

April 12, 2014 ... Today I, installed Burger Motorsports' (BMS) Oil Catch Can on my 2013 N55 135is. Installation was rather simple, I rate this a 1 out of 10 on the degree of difficulty scale.

Burger claims that this Oil Catch Can will prevent engine oil from blowing through and coating the intercooler and charge piping, gunking up intake valves and the VANOS system, lowering the effective octane, and generally degrading engine performance. They also say, the higher boost levels the more apparent these problems become.

Well I am skeptical that it will work. We all know the N55's predecessor, the N54, suffered severe oil blow by issues. I think BMW solved this problem in the N55. However, I could be wrong.....

I drive very spiritedly and my stock 8000 mile old N55 was oil free when I installed this contraption today.

This coming Monday, my stock 135is beast will be going under the knife for all the bells and whistles of a Dinan Stage 3.

Will the Oil Catch Can work as advertised or will it be total bullshit? Rendering all those who purchased a Burger Motorsports Oil Catch Can a sucker. I will find out and report back to the forum in 5000 miles.

[RaceTruk]

Originally Posted by Chunner

April 12, 2014 ... Today I, installed Burger Motorsports' (BMS) Oil Catch Can on my 2013 N55 135is. Installation was rather simple, I rate this a 1 out of 10 on the degree of difficulty scale.

Burger claims that this Oil Catch Can will prevent engine oil from blowing through and coating the intercooler and charge piping, gunking up intake valves and the VANOS system, lowering the effective octane, and generally degrading engine performance. They also say, the higher boost levels the more apparent these problems become.

Well I am skeptical that it will work. We all know the N55's predecessor, the N54, suffered severe oil blow by issues. I think BMW solved this problem in the N55. However, I could be wrong.....

I drive very spiritedly and my stock 8000 mile old N55 was oil free when I installed this contraption today.

This coming Monday, my stock 135is beast will be going under the knife for all the bells and whistles of a Dinan Stage 3.

Will the Oil Catch Can work as advertised or will it be total bullshit? Rendering all those who purchased a Burger Motorsports Oil Catch Can a sucker. I will find out and report back to the forum in 5000 miles.

Where did you check for oil that your saying you are oil free. Did you check the hot side if intercooler and chargepipe?
An aside save your money on dinan and get a jb4 if your looking for a proper tune.
Have 2 buddies who weren't satisfied with dinan and eventually went jb4 as dinan is the least aggressive tune. There are no warranty issues if you remove before servicing

[Chunner]

Some people prefer a Dinan tune for peace of mind and their coveted history. Some people prefer other tune options due to cost constraints and some people do not care if any particular tune has more HP/TQ. More HP/TQ does not make a better ride. I for one, think a better ride is defined by; Is it driving consistently? Does the car feel good? Is it free of any oddities after the tune? Can I bring it in for warranty service when I break something? Your thoughts of a better ride may be different.

The only thing that matters are peoples priorities with their cars. Arguing peoples priorities is just dumb.

RaceTruk, I understand some peoples need to push the tune: more power until it explodes, I mean detonate... no, I mean PING. Then rebuild and add more power. I understand that completely. IMO, you just don't do that with your daily ride.

BTW, this thread is about an Oil Catch Can. Not a tune.

[135iam]

Originally Posted by Chunner

Some people prefer a Dinan tune for peace of mind and their coveted history. Some people prefer other tune options due to cost constraints and some people do not care if any particular tune has more HP/TQ. More HP/TQ does not make a better ride. I for one, think a better ride is defined by; Is it driving consistently? Does the car feel good? Is it free of any oddities after the tune? Can I bring it in for warranty service when I break something? Your thoughts of a better ride may be different.

The only thing that matters are peoples priorities with their cars. Arguing peoples priorities is just dumb.

RaceTruk, I understand some peoples need to push the tune: more power until it explodes, I mean detonate... no, I mean PING. Then rebuild and add more power. I understand that completely. IMO, you just don't do that with your daily ride.

BTW, this thread is about an Oil Catch Can. Not a tune.

You obviously know nothing about the JB4. Awesome built in failsafes, stock tune until warmed up, ,adjustable from mild (like your Dinan tune) to wild.

I understand the response you got, you were asking if a cheap oil catch can was worth it. made you sound cost conscious until you started in with the overpriced underperforming Dinan tune.

Realize lots of us on here can afford any tune, any part, for our 135's and chose the JB4 because it is an excellent product.

[e36addict]

Dinan tune..

But as far as N55 carbon buildup, I've had intakes off of 60k+ mile cars and the valves are black, but there's never any gooey buildup on them.. only reason I don't own an OCC.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

What you catch depends on the condition of the engine and the power levels used. Here is another recent N55 OCC thread:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=969175

Mike

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

What you catch depends on the condition of the engine and the power levels used. Here is another recent N55 OCC thread:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=969175

Mike

+1
It really depends from one car to another

I say try it for 6 months if its not helping your car , sell it.

[Chunner]

Originally Posted by 135iam

You obviously know nothing about the JB4. Awesome built in failsafes, stock tune until warmed up, ,adjustable from mild (like your Dinan tune) to wild.

I understand the response you got, you were asking if a cheap oil catch can was worth it. made you sound cost conscious until you started in with the overpriced underperforming Dinan tune.

Realize lots of us on here can afford any tune, any part, for our 135's and chose the JB4 because it is an excellent product.

My goodness are we sensitive? Read the the original OP post and then my second post. Look at the words. Then read it again, this time slower.

The acronym " J B 4 " was never even used. If you feel insulted, no worries my man. I understand where you are coming from but that is ok. A failing I am willing to look past.

[Chunner]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

What you catch depends on the condition of the engine and the power levels used. Here is another recent N55 OCC thread:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=969175

Mike

Mike, in all do respect. The OP must work for you or Burger Motor Sports. The OP, loesch, posts the same self promotion of the Oil Catch Can on your website.

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24241

C'mon.... who we fooling here? and I respectfully write that.

[805beemer]

If you were at all sceptical it wouldn't work, why the hell did you buy it?

[Chunner]

Originally Posted by 805beemer

If you were at all sceptical it wouldn't work, why the hell did you buy it?

I was not at first but I am skeptical now because I discovered that my stock 8000 mile old N55 was oil free when I installed this contraption today. I also drive very spiritedly.

I think BMW solved this problem in the N55. However, I could be wrong..... Nevertheless, we will see and I will report back to the forum in 5000 miles which is about 6 months from now.

[jsmonet]

occ's are pretty universally liked on turbo applications. I wouldn't worry about people shilling for burger on that

[CAVU]

It would be interesting to hear from N55 owners who have OCCs installed to tell us how much oil they drain from their BMS OCCs every 6-12 months as recommended by BMS.

[esses]

Following the logic here: I did not die yesterday, therefore I should cancel my life insurance.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by Chunner

Mike, in all do respect. The OP must work for you or Burger Motor Sports. The OP, loesch, posts the same self promotion of the Oil Catch Can on your website.

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24241

C'mon.... who we fooling here? and I respectfully write that.

He's just a customer who posted his review on this forum and the n54tech car forum. My store website is n54tuning.com by the way. I'm not affiliated with the n54tech car forum.

If you can't see the value in the OCC then just remove it. For someone who is spending serious money on Dinan parts ($3000 for tune and intake?) I don't see what all the fuss is over a high quality $200 OCC. It's cheap insurance IMHO.

Mike

[Chunner]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

He's just a customer who posted his review on this forum and the n54tech car forum. My store website is n54tuning.com by the way. I'm not affiliated with the n54tech car forum.

If you can't see the value in the OCC then just remove it. For someone who is spending serious money on Dinan parts ($3000 for tune and intake?) I don't see what all the fuss is over a high quality $200 OCC. It's cheap insurance IMHO.

Mike

Mike, I'm not making the fuss but it would appear everybody else, who is a BMS fan, is. It's really interesting how everybody has their opinion. I am the OP and started this thread as a review.

Albeit, I am skeptical. I was willing to purchase and install the OCC to conduct a review. As I stated in the first post of this thread, I will report back my finding in 5000 miles which is about 6 months from now.

[bdoooh]

I installed a CP today and this is the inside of the stocker after 17k miles. The whole inside has a thin cost of oil in it and this one side was dripping down.

[Ginger_Extract]

So you made a thread, to tell the Internet, that you will make a thread in 6 MONTHS regarding your findings...

[RaceTruk]

Originally Posted by Chunner

Some people prefer a Dinan tune for peace of mind and their coveted history. Some people prefer other tune options due to cost constraints and some people do not care if any particular tune has more HP/TQ. More HP/TQ does not make a better ride. I for one, think a better ride is defined by; Is it driving consistently? Does the car feel good? Is it free of any oddities after the tune? Can I bring it in for warranty service when I break something? Your thoughts of a better ride may be different.

The only thing that matters are peoples priorities with their cars. Arguing peoples priorities is just dumb.

RaceTruk, I understand some peoples need to push the tune: more power until it explodes, I mean detonate... no, I mean PING. Then rebuild and add more power. I understand that completely. IMO, you just don't do that with your daily ride.

BTW, this thread is about an Oil Catch Can. Not a tune.

did you not read my first sentence that was in reference to your OP.
you still have not answered that.
thanks,
and im a Cobb user FYI, buti prefer JB4.
i bring my car into service all the time no issue just unflash and go.
dont think they make a cobb your your year tho, but on JB4 ive gotten turbos, fuel bumps, coils sparks injectors, sensors, waterpump, about everything you can and would want changed under warranty done, while being FBO, carbon hood, trunk, exhaust, wheels, headlights, etc.... so it wasnt like i was flying under a radar.
dont let bmw frighten you into paying for an overpriced tune

[loesch]

Originally Posted by Chunner

Mike, in all do respect. The OP must work for you or Burger Motor Sports. The OP, loesch, posts the same self promotion of the Oil Catch Can on your website.

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24241

C'mon.... who we fooling here? and I respectfully write that.

I definitely do not work for them. Plus I live in PA so that would be tough. Wish I did (If BMS needs a Systems Administrator I'm your man BTW ). I just thought the contents of the catch can was interesting so I posted it in both places. They did, however, rip off my picture for their Instagram page. No worries though.

[Chunner]

Originally Posted by RaceTruk

Where did you check for oil that your saying you are oil free. Did you check the hot side if intercooler and chargepipe?

Originally Posted by RaceTruk

did you not read my first sentence that was in reference to your OP.
you still have not answered that.

This week, I replaced my OEM intercooler and OEM charge pipe. Hot side was bone dry, licky spit free of oil. So clean, you can eat off both.

So the question is now, will the BMS OCC ever catch oil? Even though there is no evidence of oil blow by in an 8000 mile old N55? Let see 5000 miles from now.

[edisapimp]

Chunner,

Even if it doesn't catch oil it's not the catch can's fault. Like esses above said, it's an insurance policy. I can't see calling a product that is designed to be a 'just in case' prevention measure "bullshit," regardless of whether or not you see a drop of oil in it or a quart. It's job is not to make the engine better or worse, merely to protect it, which you seem interested in.