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      01-01-2011, 04:16 AM   #1
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Clay Bar- Medium, Fine, Ultra Fine, The difference?

I was looking on detailersdomain and wanted to know the difference between these 3?

I am going to clay my car which hasn't been washed since I bought it 3months ago. Its got heavy contamination.
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      01-01-2011, 05:29 AM   #2
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Detailer’s clay is available in various abrasive grades most manufacturers colorize (these colours vary by reseller) the clay to identify differing abrasive strengths; this is accomplished by varying the type, amount or particle size of the abrasive used
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      01-01-2011, 08:37 AM   #3
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So in terms of abrasive, what should we be getting? I've never clayed my car before..
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ozzie - I would think its just like selecting a polish. You want to start out with a fine or mild cut and then go up from there. I used Detailer's Domain The Uber "FINE" Blue Clay Bar Kit. It did a great job on my fairly new 2010. You could also buy a meduim bar just to have on hand incase you need to make another pass/cut.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/theub...umnorinse.aspx

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PS: and the No Rise stuff really works well in the wintertime to wash your car on really cold days.
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      01-01-2011, 08:49 AM   #5
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Hmmm I'm still new to the detailing so you'll need to explain the polish analogy.

Do you start off with the finest. Then if there is still contamination left over that the fine clay cannot pickup then you use another level of abrasive?
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Hmmm I'm still new to the detailing so you'll need to explain the polish analogy.

Do you start off with the finest. Then if there is still contamination left over that the fine clay cannot pickup then you use another level of abrasive?
Yes, thats exactly right. Start off with a fine cut and work your way up to more abrasive "cut".

Also... when you clay your car... you will remove any wax or paint protection you have. So you should follow up with some sort of protection again. Wax or Sealant.

I really like "Menzerna Power Lock Sealant". Great results.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/menze...ersealant.aspx


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Yes, thats exactly right. Start off with a fine cut and work your way up to more abrasive "cut".

Also... when you clay your car... you will remove any wax or paint protection you have. So you should follow up with some sort of protection again. Wax or Sealant.

I really like "Menzerna Power Lock Sealant". Great results.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/menze...ersealant.aspx


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If you use that one. Do you need a machine? I don't have one
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^Noop!

I use "Menzerna Power Lock Sealant" and always put it on by hand.
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      01-01-2011, 09:43 AM   #9
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Interesting! Do you have pics of your car?
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      01-01-2011, 09:46 AM   #10
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Interesting! Do you have pics of your car?

Here you go! Same color as yours too!


Schöner 135 in Deutschland…

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383375


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      01-01-2011, 09:52 AM   #11
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Here you go! Same color as yours too!


Schöner 135 in Deutschland…

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383375


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Very clean! Ok I think i'll get some of that. Is there a wet look alternative to that one?
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      01-01-2011, 10:01 AM   #12
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I use "Menzerna Power Lock Sealant" & "Prima Banana Gloss" - a liquid carnuba wax that I use ontop of the Menz.

here is a link.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/primabananagloss.aspx


PS: I'm not really into carnuba waxes... but I LOVE this liquid Banana Gloss stuff!


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      01-01-2011, 10:40 AM   #13
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I use "Menzerna Power Lock Sealant" & "Prima Banana Gloss" - a liquid carnuba wax that I use ontop of the Menz.

here is a link.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/primabananagloss.aspx


PS: I'm not really into carnuba waxes... but I LOVE this liquid Banana Gloss stuff!


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so you like smearing silicone all over your car? do you know what silicone really does to a cars paint and metal?
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I say get the finest clay posible. I use a fine detailing clay and the results have always been very good. Even with a fine clay I make sure I "warm" it up in my hands first to make it a bit more pliable. Lots of lube and off I go. I have used it on a friends VW GTI that had some real rough paint in a few spots (it was 5 years old and never detailed or clayed) and was very happy with the results. It took several passes and I had to fold over the clay more often but it preduced good results.
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      01-01-2011, 01:57 PM   #15
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Each bar should be used to tackle the appropriate detailing situation.

Ultra Fine Clay Bar - These bars are very soft and gentle, however they have a more difficult time removing some stubborn build ups. I use these more on brand new cars and cars that have been more recently clayed or cleaned.

Fine Grade Clay - I think about about 85%+ of detailers need to use this bar. This is for everyday vehicles that have the normal accumulation of road grime, etc.

Medium Grade Clay Bar - When you have a lot of really stubborn contaminants (excessive tar, paint overspray, etc) this is a good choice. It removes these build ups quicker but it's more likely to mar the paint so polishing afterward is highly recommended.

If you have any specific questions please don't hesitate to ask. Don't forget we have DI Package deals with these bars or you can save 10% off the bars and other products with the discount code 1offBMW1.

Greg

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      01-01-2011, 04:43 PM   #16
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@Dackelone Hmm I'm not too sure about that one.. I've created a post to ask for more help..

@vanbmw Thats good advice.

@greg thats the explanation I needed. Thank you!
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      01-03-2011, 06:53 AM   #17
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so you like smearing silicone all over your car? do you know what silicone really does to a cars paint and metal?
Please inform us as to what silicone really does to a paint surface and / or metal
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      01-04-2011, 10:09 PM   #18
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sorry for the delay guys.

you can use our Uber Gray Clay Bar for the type of work you need to do.

you may need to polish after as with any claying you can cause some light marring.
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      01-05-2011, 08:40 AM   #19
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phil how much polishing?
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      01-05-2011, 08:46 AM   #20
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it will depend on how much pressure you put on the clay bar.

if you gently glide the clay bar and make sure there is enough clay lube that will reduce the amount of marring.

if you go heavy on the pressure it will mar and you will need to polish.
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      01-05-2011, 09:43 AM   #21
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ok Thanks. I'll be following autolavish's guide:


Also do you have any deals atm? The 20% off one on your blog expired.
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right now we have 10% off and free shipping or flat shipping.

Use BMW at checkout.
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