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      06-02-2019, 07:08 PM   #1
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Totally confused about "M" designatinons

Okay you experts out there, BMW now uses the "M" label quite liberally, so my question is this. For the new cars, how do I know what has "M" parts and what is a true "M" car?
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Okay you experts out there, BMW now uses the "M" label quite liberally, so my question is this. For the new cars, how do I know what has "M" parts and what is a true "M" car?
From this site
https://www.cartelligent.com/blog/un...ng-conventions

"M Models – A high-performance version of many BMW models is grouped into the M Models (e.g. the M3 is a high-performance version of the 3 Series sedan)."

Vs.

"M Sport Line – In addition to the M Models discussed above, BMW also offers an M Sport Line on select vehicles. This adds features such as M wheels, an M steering wheel, a sports instrument cluster and an M aerodynamic kit. The M Sport Line also adds unique color choices to certain models."
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Okay you experts out there, BMW now uses the "M" label quite liberally, so my question is this. For the new cars, how do I know what has "M" parts and what is a true "M" car?
M stands for "mediocre" now. AVOID!
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The VIN is the easiest tell. If it starts with WBS, 5UM, or 5YM, it was a car built by BMW M. As always, there are oddball historical exceptions, but this is a good rule for cars currently being produced.

BMW M:
WBS
5UM
5YM

Standard BMW:
WBA
5UX

You will find that all the M Performance products have VINs that start with WBA or 5UX.
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Thanks. Seems like so many "M's" out there. At least our 1M's cannot be faked!
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Thanks. Seems like so many "M's" out there. At least our 1M's cannot be faked!
Many are trying. The first thing someone asked me at Bimmerfest was : Is that a real one? : )
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Okay you experts out there, BMW now uses the "M" label quite liberally, so my question is this. For the new cars, how do I know what has "M" parts and what is a true "M" car?
The honest answer is, "who gives a shit."

Really, if you are looking for an engaging and fun to drive, modern production car, look elsewhere.
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Okay you experts out there, BMW now uses the "M" label quite liberally, so my question is this. For the new cars, how do I know what has "M" parts and what is a true "M" car?
The honest answer is, "who gives a shit."

Really, if you are looking for an engaging and fun to drive, modern production car, look elsewhere.
That's a lot of hate....but, I get it....BMW like many have lost focused or maybe just purely focus is on the mighty dollar now.

However, I'm holding out hope that the upcoming 2020 M2cs will be something special and hopefully a return to form. Only time will tell tho???
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The honest answer is, "who gives a shit."

Really, if you are looking for an engaging and fun to drive, modern production car, look elsewhere.
The same could unfortunately be said about most modern cars. Porsche is still doing ok, although the 911 is getting too big. I'm not sure there's a single modern car I'd trade my car for, and I only have a modded 135i, let alone a 1M.
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Okay you experts out there, BMW now uses the "M" label quite liberally, so my question is this. For the new cars, how do I know what has "M" parts and what is a true "M" car?
There was a ppt slide pic I had seen before....maybe in the M2 forum? However, it had a list of all the different M classes.

Can't seem to locate it tho?
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That's a lot of hate....but, I get it....BMW like many have lost focused or maybe just purely focus is on the mighty dollar now.

However, I'm holding out hope that the upcoming 2020 M2cs will be something special and hopefully a return to form. Only time will tell tho???
It's not really "hate," it's just reality. I get current BMW loaner cars regularly when I take my 3 older BMWs, and my 2018 M2, in for service. Some of them are highly decorated with mindless "M" badges. I also own an M2 plus did the one-day M-school in CA, and had the chance to also drive the M3 and M4, this past December.

The new cars, all of them, are "soul-less." Some of them, especially the "M" cars as opposed to "M-badge decorated cars" are fast, and would probably be good on the track. What they are not, for the most part, is fun to drive.
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The same could unfortunately be said about most modern cars. Porsche is still doing ok, although the 911 is getting too big. I'm not sure there's a single modern car I'd trade my car for, and I only have a modded 135i, let alone a 1M.
If I was looking for another new car, which I most definitely am NOT, I'd have a look at the current Cayman and at the Miata, assuming I didn't need anything very functional. After that you start talking about Subarus, heaven help us.
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