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      05-03-2013, 08:19 AM   #1
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What do you think of this tire setup?

Michelin Pilot Super Sport:

Front: 245/35/19
Rear: 295/30/19

Car is mostly a street/daily driver with the rare occasion I might take to a track (which I haven't done yet).

Stock fronts don't rub and I believe from reading the threads here that 295/30's on the back should be pretty good as well.

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      05-03-2013, 08:29 AM   #2
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thats going to understeer quite a bit, and will not be well balanced

IMO if you are going to do that, i would go with 265/30 fronts

however, a better option would be running a 255/35 275/35 setup. (not certain that 255/35 wont rub, if it will, then just run 245/35 fronts)

295 IMO is too wide for 10 inch wheels, ditto for 265 on a 9 inch wheel
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      05-03-2013, 08:32 AM   #3
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thats going to understeer quite a bit, and will not be well balanced

IMO if you are going to do that, i would go with 265/30 fronts

however, a better option would be running a 255/35 275/35 setup. (not certain that 255/35 wont rub, if it will, then just run 245/35 fronts)

295 IMO is too wide for 10 inch wheels, ditto for 265 on a 9 inch wheel
Ok but is there that much of a difference from going 265 to 275? Is it worth the extra bit of money? I might as well stick to stock sizes no?
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Ok but is there that much of a difference from going 265 to 275? Is it worth the extra bit of money? I might as well stick to stock sizes no?
i think there is, gives you a little more sidewall for slightly improved ride quality, and also reduces the stretch on the wheels a bit, plus will give you that little extra bit of grip.

its ideal for handling to have a little bit of stretch to firm up the sidewall response, and IMO the 255/275 combo is PERFECT for 9/10 inch wheels, it is ideal fitment.

i currently run re11 in 245/265 (also track my car) and plan to upsize to ad08 255/275 for my next set when i roast these.
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i think there is, gives you a little more sidewall for slightly improved ride quality, and also reduces the stretch on the wheels a bit, plus will give you that little extra bit of grip.

its ideal for handling to have a little bit of stretch to firm up the sidewall response, and IMO the 255/275 combo is PERFECT for 9/10 inch wheels, it is ideal fitment.

i currently run re11 in 245/265 (also track my car) and plan to upsize to ad08 255/275 for my next set when i roast these.
Ok so you recommend:

255/35/19 – Front
275/35/19 – Rear

There's no issues with a 255/35 front in terms of rubbing? That's the only reason I was trying to keep the fronts stock sizes.
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Ok so you recommend:

255/35/19 – Front
275/35/19 – Rear

There's no issues with a 255/35 front in terms of rubbing? That's the only reason I was trying to keep the fronts stock sizes.
That i am not certain about. Maybe others with experience trying this can chip in?

Even so, if there is I'd still recommend a 275/35 rear even if you go with 245/35 fronts
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You need camber plates if you think you are going to fit 255 up front...
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You need camber plates if you think you are going to fit 255 up front...
Ok so I'll just go with 245 on the front and 275 on the back...that sounds good right?
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245 is close, that's why I went 235/275 ill get 255s once I do my suspension/camber plates
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You need camber plates if you think you are going to fit 255 up front...

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Ok so I'll just go with 245 on the front and 275 on the back...that sounds good right?
I think you will be fine, may rub the fender liners at full lock.

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245 is close, that's why I went 235/275 ill get 255s once I do my suspension/camber plates
Black Sheep, I see you have a 135. Have you done 1M fender modifications or are you stock? If you are stock 135, then your tire selection is much more restricted than the 1M.

FWIW, I am running 265/285 (with apex wheels and different offsets; stock camber) and I rubbed for a bit at full lock until I wore the tires a little, now no rubbing at all.

If you don't mind a slight rub then I think you can do a 255/275 setup on the stock 19s no problem. I know people have gone bigger than that.
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Oh this is for a 1M my bad don't listen to me
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I think you will be fine, may rub the fender liners at full lock.



Black Sheep, I see you have a 135. Have you done 1M fender modifications or are you stock? If you are stock 135, then your tire selection is much more restricted than the 1M.

FWIW, I am running 265/285 (with apex wheels and different offsets; stock camber) and I rubbed for a bit at full lock until I wore the tires a little, now no rubbing at all.

If you don't mind a slight rub then I think you can do a 255/275 setup on the stock 19s no problem. I know people have gone bigger than that.
haha i was so confused about this at first since i was posting from my phone, couldnt see he had a 135i!

i cant see how a 255 will rub that bad compared to a 245, its only .2 inches taller.

i also have my car lowered about .75 inches in the front and .5 inches rear and run re11 in stock sizes (run wide) and have had zero rubbing even with a car full of people.

i plan to try out 255 next.

its also hard, as you mention, to compare an apex wheel with oem since the offsets are much more aggressive in the front coupled with wider wheels
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