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      07-28-2020, 01:16 PM   #1
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Hawk or Carbotech Track pads??

Hey everyone,

Looking at making the step up to track pads in my 135i. Looking at the Hawk HT10's or the Carbotech XP10/XP8(f/r) combo. I'm an intermediate driver at best, but I'm just tired of my stock brembo pads fading in this 90+* summer weather.

Has anyone tried both and have any insight on what I should go with? The HT10's are a little bit more cost effective and I've had great luck with Hawk pads in the past.

Also, if I plan on switching back to street pads for normal driving, will I need dedicated rotors for each set of pads to prevent the need for rebedding, etc?

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      07-29-2020, 10:50 AM   #2
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Hey I ran the carbotech 10/8 f&r solids pads decent life had no issues with fading really.

I then switched to Hawk DTC 70s f/r think this was a great setup and preferred it over the carbotechs. The stopping power just seemed better and I can't recall ever feeling any fade. They do unleash an insane amount of dust, I think carbotechs did too.

Also I used the same rotors and would swap back to stock pads for the winter. I drove on the street with the hawks and carbotechs haha. No issues with bedding, do what you want but think it's overkill, you aren't racing F1 or Lemans.

That's my 2c, hope it helps!
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Hey I ran the carbotech 10/8 f&r solids pads decent life had no issues with fading really.

I then switched to Hawk DTC 70s f/r think this was a great setup and preferred it over the carbotechs. The stopping power just seemed better and I can't recall ever feeling any fade. They do unleash an insane amount of dust, I think carbotechs did too.

Also I used the same rotors and would swap back to stock pads for the winter. I drove on the street with the hawks and carbotechs haha. No issues with bedding, do what you want but think it's overkill, you aren't racing F1 or Lemans.

That's my 2c, hope it helps!
Thanks, definately helps with the decision making process. I already purchased rear XP8's... but I think I'm gonna order the Hawk HT10's for the front since they're on sale for $192 on tirerack right now!

As far as the rotors, I was just mainly wondering if the deposits of different compounds for track vs street pads would cause issues using the same rotors. I would rather just use one set if possible just for the reason you said, I'm not racing for points or merit, but rather just a hobby to have fun. Guess I'll just do a really thorough cleaning with brake cleaner inbetween pad swaps.
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      07-29-2020, 07:35 PM   #4
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Hey I ran the carbotech 10/8 f&r solids pads decent life had no issues with fading really.

I then switched to Hawk DTC 70s f/r think this was a great setup and preferred it over the carbotechs. The stopping power just seemed better and I can't recall ever feeling any fade. They do unleash an insane amount of dust, I think carbotechs did too.

Also I used the same rotors and would swap back to stock pads for the winter. I drove on the street with the hawks and carbotechs haha. No issues with bedding, do what you want but think it's overkill, you aren't racing F1 or Lemans.

That's my 2c, hope it helps!
Thanks, definately helps with the decision making process. I already purchased rear XP8's... but I think I'm gonna order the Hawk HT10's for the front since they're on sale for $192 on tirerack right now!

As far as the rotors, I was just mainly wondering if the deposits of different compounds for track vs street pads would cause issues using the same rotors. I would rather just use one set if possible just for the reason you said, I'm not racing for points or merit, but rather just a hobby to have fun. Guess I'll just do a really thorough cleaning with brake cleaner inbetween pad swaps.
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Hey I ran the carbotech 10/8 f&r solids pads decent life had no issues with fading really.

I then switched to Hawk DTC 70s f/r think this was a great setup and preferred it over the carbotechs. The stopping power just seemed better and I can't recall ever feeling any fade. They do unleash an insane amount of dust, I think carbotechs did too.

Also I used the same rotors and would swap back to stock pads for the winter. I drove on the street with the hawks and carbotechs haha. No issues with bedding, do what you want but think it's overkill, you aren't racing F1 or Lemans.

That's my 2c, hope it helps!
Thanks, definately helps with the decision making process. I already purchased rear XP8's... but I think I'm gonna order the Hawk HT10's for the front since they're on sale for $192 on tirerack right now!

As far as the rotors, I was just mainly wondering if the deposits of different compounds for track vs street pads would cause issues using the same rotors. I would rather just use one set if possible just for the reason you said, I'm not racing for points or merit, but rather just a hobby to have fun. Guess I'll just do a really thorough cleaning with brake cleaner inbetween pad swaps.

Ha, just realized you bought the XP8s from me they will last forever.... it really matters what you have up front, give the hawks a try decent price. Like you said get out and have some fun!
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      07-29-2020, 08:20 PM   #5
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I've tried a lot of pads - the PFC08s, Pagid 29s, or ST43s last the longest. Of those the ST43s have the most bite, but I believe the Pagids may have the best feel for trail braking. The DTC60s, and 70s lasted the shortest; but substantially shorter than the ones mentioned. I don't think I've ever run the HT10s.
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joeo do you know the part number for the ST43 front pads?
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